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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information
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I'm just going with a Larvitar since they're in every part of Mt Silver with slots 9 and 11. The only problem is that delays have been killing me lately. :(
I got my Larvitar, so I'm happy. Encounter slots suck, by the way. When I abused my ID/SID, I thought I could just get anything with the spreads I have. Nope!
I got my Larvitar, so I'm happy. Encounter slots suck, by the way. When I abused my ID/SID, I thought I could just get anything with the spreads I have. Nope!
When I did my pupitar capture, I had to leave the cave and go on the side of the mountain. I had the correct encounter slots when I did that. When I stayed inside, I always got the wrong pokemon. I haven't revisited to see if the same things happen again, so I don't know if it's something I screwed up at the time or if it is something wrong with the list of cave encounter slots.
edit: i meant larvitar, I couldn't get a pupitar in the cave for the above reason that the encounter slots wouldn't match up.
How do I RNG for Pokes in the Safari Zone and in the Bug Catching Contest?
And the way to advance your frame is through the Journal correct?
If that's the case then this sounds quite easy :) I'm very eager to try it
Also with RNG Captures the IV/Shiny combinations are determined by your ID/SID right but not the pure IVS?
it sure does sound a lot easier
DPPt: You can advance the frame by journal flipping and walking. In an area with no wild pokemon, you can advance the frame by the number of pokemon in your party every 128steps. In an area with wild pokemon, advancing a step advances the RNG by 1 and turning advances the RNG by 1.
ID/SID combo produces Shiny + IVs. You don't need any specific combo to get a good IV non shiny capture.
ID/SID combo produces Shiny + IVs. You don't need any specific combo to get a good IV non shiny capture.
So I can basically have two journal pages next to each other and go back and forth until I hit my frame (if it's even since it advances the frame by two).
Hiya all,
I've been trying to understand the use of RNG Reporter for IV capturing, and so far I have to say I'm pretty lost. I have a few simple questions that I would love to see answered.
First off, I've been doing my homework. I'm not posting here in the hope that you'll explain everything to me. Don't worry. I've mastered the PokéRadar hunting for shinies, and right after I found my SID I mastered shiny hatching w/ RNG Reporter.
Now, I'm lost when it comes to frames, methods and such. Basically, I want to capture a perfect Ditto. But since I like a scientific approach, I thought I'd try to capture any Pokémon with 31 IV in Sp.Att for a start.
I'm good with the calibration thing. Out of a dozen tries, I've managed once to reach the target seed. And when I failed, I only missed by a delay of 4. Which is OK, since I'm only trying to understand how it all works. So here is my problem : I don't get the link between methods, frames, and what I'm doing in the game. I understand how it should work, but I can't get it to do what I want.
Here is how I proceed :
- I'm lying in a grass patch. Nothing moves at all. There are no weather effects. No wandering NPC on the screen, maybe one a few dozen steps away but it's definitely now showing. The Poketch shows the coin flip app. I save the game.
- I turn off and on the console, set my time to 1 minute + seconds before the target seed, and launch the game.
- When the clock reaches the next minute I soft reset the game and tap A continuously.
- When I arrive in the game, I flip the coin 10 times and use the "Search Flips" utility to find where I just landed. Let's say I missed my target by 3 or 4 delays. Doesn't matter. I copy the seed to the clipboard, and I paste it in the field on the main RNG Reporter window.
- I select method J (platinum, target is any tall grass pokemon). My ID, SID and Seed are all good. I click "Generate".
- Question 1 : am I still at frame 1 ? I mean, after loading my game, could I leave the console on, go outside for an hour, come back, and the game would still be at frame 1 ?
- Question 2 : does the coin flip make the frames advance ? Or could I flip 100 coins and still be at frame 1 ?
- Assuming I am still at frame 1, I open the menu, select my Oddish, and use Sweet Scent. A fight starts.
- Question 3 : does opening the menu, displaying the team and selecting a move make the frame advance ? Or could I open the menu, watch the entire Pokedex, close the menu, and still be at frame 1 ?
- Question 4 : I read in this topic that Sweet Scent made the frame advance by 6 in HGSS. Is it the same for Platinum ?
- A wild Roselia shows up. I capture it, and calculate its IVs. I match its nature and IVs to the RNG Reporter options in the main windows, and click on Generate. Now, I've done this twice (capturing a pokemon on the first try without it killing itself). The first time, the Pokemon I captured happened to be the one on frame 7. The second time, it was on frame 251. Err, when I say "first time" and "second time", I mean on separate tries. I don't try to capture several pokemon in a row in the same try, as it obviously advances the frame by a zillion.
- Question 5 : what the the tiny variables that made it advance to frame 7 ? If I'm not mistaken, there was 1 roaming pokemon in the world at that time.
- Question 6 : the second try happened a few minutes later. Beforehand, I decided to release all the roaming Pokemon I could. There were now 5 roaming pokemon in the world. Then why the hell did it advance all the way to frame 251 ?
I think that if you can answer all my questions then I'll be set. Thanks in advance :)
I've been trying to understand the use of RNG Reporter for IV capturing, and so far I have to say I'm pretty lost. I have a few simple questions that I would love to see answered.
First off, I've been doing my homework. I'm not posting here in the hope that you'll explain everything to me. Don't worry. I've mastered the PokéRadar hunting for shinies, and right after I found my SID I mastered shiny hatching w/ RNG Reporter.
Now, I'm lost when it comes to frames, methods and such. Basically, I want to capture a perfect Ditto. But since I like a scientific approach, I thought I'd try to capture any Pokémon with 31 IV in Sp.Att for a start.
I'm good with the calibration thing. Out of a dozen tries, I've managed once to reach the target seed. And when I failed, I only missed by a delay of 4. Which is OK, since I'm only trying to understand how it all works. So here is my problem : I don't get the link between methods, frames, and what I'm doing in the game. I understand how it should work, but I can't get it to do what I want.
Here is how I proceed :
- I'm lying in a grass patch. Nothing moves at all. There are no weather effects. No wandering NPC on the screen, maybe one a few dozen steps away but it's definitely now showing. The Poketch shows the coin flip app. I save the game.
- I turn off and on the console, set my time to 1 minute + seconds before the target seed, and launch the game.
- When the clock reaches the next minute I soft reset the game and tap A continuously.
- When I arrive in the game, I flip the coin 10 times and use the "Search Flips" utility to find where I just landed. Let's say I missed my target by 3 or 4 delays. Doesn't matter. I copy the seed to the clipboard, and I paste it in the field on the main RNG Reporter window.
- I select method J (platinum, target is any tall grass pokemon). My ID, SID and Seed are all good. I click "Generate".
- Question 1 : am I still at frame 1 ? I mean, after loading my game, could I leave the console on, go outside for an hour, come back, and the game would still be at frame 1 ?
- Question 2 : does the coin flip make the frames advance ? Or could I flip 100 coins and still be at frame 1 ?
- Assuming I am still at frame 1, I open the menu, select my Oddish, and use Sweet Scent. A fight starts.
- Question 3 : does opening the menu, displaying the team and selecting a move make the frame advance ? Or could I open the menu, watch the entire Pokedex, close the menu, and still be at frame 1 ?
- Question 4 : I read in this topic that Sweet Scent made the frame advance by 6 in HGSS. Is it the same for Platinum ?
- A wild Roselia shows up. I capture it, and calculate its IVs. I match its nature and IVs to the RNG Reporter options in the main windows, and click on Generate. Now, I've done this twice (capturing a pokemon on the first try without it killing itself). The first time, the Pokemon I captured happened to be the one on frame 7. The second time, it was on frame 251. Err, when I say "first time" and "second time", I mean on separate tries. I don't try to capture several pokemon in a row in the same try, as it obviously advances the frame by a zillion.
- Question 5 : what the the tiny variables that made it advance to frame 7 ? If I'm not mistaken, there was 1 roaming pokemon in the world at that time.
- Question 6 : the second try happened a few minutes later. Beforehand, I decided to release all the roaming Pokemon I could. There were now 5 roaming pokemon in the world. Then why the hell did it advance all the way to frame 251 ?
I think that if you can answer all my questions then I'll be set. Thanks in advance :)
Get Pikatimer and use it for your RNG timing.
If you're in DPPt, I think you should be frame zero and, yes, if you're not using a flash cart (some glitch if you shut the DS), you can close your DS and walk away from it, come back and RNG later. Or leave it open and plugged into a wall, but hope your cats don't walk on the screen (mine would).
Not for captures, only for egg generation (not the IV part--nature, ability, shininess only)
I believe it is frame zero in DPPt. If it wasn't, an even number of journal page flips would always land you on an odd frame (1 plus double the journal flip count). But that's not the case. You can advance an even number of frames with journal flips and land on an even frame without trouble.
No, using your menu doesn't advance frames in RNG capture, but turning on your journal might if you flip to a page with a caught/fainted poke.
Did you walk in the grass? Walking and turning in the grass advances the frame for every step and turn.
See above answer.
Same answer as before.
General advice: See my noob guides.
Edit:
Yes, you can. You have to capture it multiple times and use the chained shiny SID method.
Of course not.
If you faint it, it will respawn after you beat the E4. If you capture it, it will not respawn. It doesn't matter if you release it after capturing it. It's not going to respawn, not with an AR Code to put it back in the game.
Well, if mine walked onto the screen, he would crush it.
I didn't walk. At all. I saved when I was standing on a patch of grass, and when I loaded the only thing I did was using Sweet Scent. And this was the case for the frame 7 Pokémon as well as the frame 251 Pokémon. How can it be explained ?
Thanks for the answers anyway :)
I recall that when I checked my adjacents using Seed Finder, the frames didn't match up with the frame count I would have gotten if I'd landed on my exact delay. So when I do captures on DPPt, I ignore frames for adjacents. I only use Seed Finder to find what adjacent I was on to adjust Pikatimer. You should just land on your proper delay and verify your frame advancements with that. And since you are going to that much trouble, do a real capture of a good pokemon, not just one IV.
Don't wandering NPC's anywhere on the route mess with the frames? It doesn't matter whether they're showing or not... I'm pretty new to RNG, so I could be wrong.
You can feed him each of the six EV berries 11 times to reset his EVs back to zero. But if you're using him to check your SID, you're out of luck, because you need to catch him multiple times for it to be accurate.
Well, catch it, use a few rare candies and metalkid's iv calculator then reset without saving, catch it again rinse and repeat.
On the off chance that someone still had an egg from the PokeCenter events (like WishBliss), would it be possible to RNG the IVs?? I doubt in the extreme that anyone does, but I am asking out of curiosity.
The IV's are already determined on the moment of receiving it,
which is why the Linoone egg from Pokémon Box is most likely unable to abuse.
I'm putting my money on no.