What's so artificial about sticking a female Cubone/Marowak in with a male in the Monster egg group/Ditto? And D/P/Pt already hinted that Pokemon eggs aren't really eggs in the most traditional sense, being more like a cradle for the newborn inside. Of course Game Freak and Nintendo are extremely squeamish about the subject of reproduction, which is why despite shoving a compatible male and female Pokemon (which even then outside of aesthetics for a handful of species 'no one has any idea how they're different') into the Day-Care together the folks running it have no idea where that 24601st egg they've offered to you came from. The only truth to Cubone's Dex entry is from the original games before breeding was introduced. Hatch one from breeding a female Marowak, having never caught Cubone before? It pines for its dead mother who's clearly not dead. (and even in the originals... the Cubone that lost its mother is in Lavender Town's Pokemon Center and not available to catch, so the entry is still kind of bullshit)
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When your evidence for something being Dub only, it probably shouldn't be counted as evidence. Everything else you said points to the fact they modified Mew's child and it would probably have been a Mew if the scientists hadn't modified it. That or they used some of the mother's genetic material as a base for the modifications and used that to modify Mewtwo. ...I can see why in most canons it's just cloning in a tube; it would be far less dark than having Mew's child be experimented on like this.
Edit: Just read the Fire Red entry, nowhere does it say that they modified another's DNA but instead it implies they modified Mewtwo's previous DNA to make him what he is.
It's the locations. The dex entries say that Manaphies lay Phione eggs in "warmer" areas while Manaphy eggs are only laid in "cold" areas or something like that. The Dex entries seemed to imply that and I remember reading somewhere that Manaphies will only lay Phione eggs when they aren't in their right environment and vice versa. Maybe if we have a Pokemon Arctic Edition we'll be able to breed Manaphies.
While it looks different, it functions identically.
The only problem is now we can breed Phione in both Sinnoh (a cold region) and Hoenn (a tropical region)
I looked at it closer now, it seems Manaphy eggs are laid in the cold depths of the ocean floor. Maybe that's another bit. Not only does it need to be cold, they need high pressure to produce a Manaphy egg. So, breeding on the surface will always breed a Phione egg.
Or maybe they need a breeding area that is really cold. I mean, not just the region, but there should be ice and snow on the ground. Or maybe even that isn't enough, and they need freezing water, which would be inhospitable to most Pokémon, but preferred by Manaphy.
Hey, I don't know if we talked about this specifically (I know we mentioned the occurrence in XY), but do we know anything more about the creepy hex maniac ghost girl that appears in the building in lumiose? Cause I was playing ORAS and noticed that in mt. Pyre the same girl appears saying the same exact thing ("no, you're not the one"). They are obviously either the same person or closely related, but their purpose is still not clear!
Wait, she's in ORAS? Well, that is interesting. Honestly, I've been taking this statement (now told to two different sets of protagonists, Calem/Serena and Brendan/May) as evidence for there to be X2 and Y2 over Z. Would make sense that she ties into those games somehow, especially if her ghost-like presence is due to the ultimate weapon (similar to AZ's immortality).
Perhaps she is a fatality from the Ultimate Weapon, we know plenty of Pokemon died from it. She could be searching for AZ himself to seek revenge, which could be why she always remarks, "You're not the one." and then disappears.
Perhaps that theory is correct, but that does not explain why she would be in the Hoenn region, and I think she would have found him after thousands of years of looking.
Also, I don't believe any hackers have found any extra dialogue or anything regarding her... so maybe her part will be explained in the next game? I think she has to do with something sinister, possibly hoopa. The fact that she's in both XY and ORAS means that she does indeed have a greater purpose than to just creep, I'm just not sold on what it is.
Also, I don't believe any hackers have found any extra dialogue or anything regarding her... so maybe her part will be explained in the next game? I think she has to do with something sinister, possibly hoopa. The fact that she's in both XY and ORAS means that she does indeed have a greater purpose than to just creep, I'm just not sold on what it is.
Well, AZ had 3,000 years to explore the world. And the world is a very big place.
Ok, fair enough, but as far as we know the pokemon world is not overly large whereas AZ is, which should not make him too hard to find given 3000 years, but She dosen't seem to be looking too hard so maybe she has just been having trouble tracking him down. (I still don't think that that's what she's doing though)
Well, the Pokémon world must be some kind of parallel Earth considering the fact that many Earth locations exist, such as Guyana. The rotation of the planet is similar to our own in the fact it makes one rotation every 24 hours. We also know it has a tilt in its axis compared to its orbit since it does have seasons (though the true perception of time doesn't exist as a in-game mechanic since even if you wait over two real life years, Black and White don't become Black 2 and White 2).
And, typically, when a fantasy world exists similar to our own with humans, you just assume that the planet is the same size as ours (unless specifically said otherwise).
True, it does seem like she would of found AZ by then. I like the idea that she is connected to Hoopa though. A thought just came to me... could she be looking for The Looker? They both appeared in XY/ORAS, and you generally don't find them unless you look it up or hear from someone else about the Looker missions or the ghost girl in Lumiose. If she is connected to Hoopa, maybe she is someone who went through one of Hoopa's rings into the world of XY/ORAS. But why is she a ghost? Something could of gone wrong, or she could of fallen into an ocean like Looker did and drowned, but Looker didn't so it's hard to tell.
...I just realized something. Arceus's creation event at the Sinjoh Ruins is sometimes said to prove there are multiple legends, or to cement his power. But there is a more complicated but just as possible explanation. Dialga can time travel.
In other words.
Mother
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time
shenanigans.
In other words.
Mother
fucking
time
shenanigans.
Point taken! Although I think the early on stuff, such as Guyana and other real world references (Indian elephant implying India is in the pokemon world), are just the people at Nintendo not thinking about where they were going with the franchise.
Ooo, I also totally forgot about the Looker! I don't know if they are related, but he definitely is in ORAS for a purpose (other than to give you the audinite). I think we speculated about this awhile ago, I'll go back and see what theories we had last time the Looker came up.
Eh, I doubt that the ghost has anything to do with Looker (no "the". I know that many of us say he's the Tenth Doctor, but come on). Especially since Looker has been in the games since Platinum while this ghost is brand new.
Yes, but the one thing they share in common I see is they are both in XY/ORAS, and I didn't say the Ghost had something to do with him. When I first found him, I was looking around and some people think that Looker probably went through one of Hoopa's rings, which is also why his memory was wiped. I'm theorizing that the Ghost may of also gone through one of Hoopa's rings, but something worse than memory loss happened after she entered.
(Also, I really don't think he's the 10th Doctor, just thought 'The' was part of his name/title. =P)
(Also, I really don't think he's the 10th Doctor, just thought 'The' was part of his name/title. =P)
Compatible To Breed With Cubone/Marowak:
Totally non-artificial. :P
It just seems to me in the wild a Pokemon would probably stick to members of its own species (or Pokemon that biologically close enough) as well as have different breeding patterns which is what I meant when I said natural.
You know what, I wonder if there isn't actually an alternative reason why Cubone acts the was it does. Is it pining for its mother (which if bred in captivity it still has) or is its behavior for another reason?
But what were they recombining BEFORE Mewtwo existed. ;) I think its still referring to Mew.
Hmm, interesting theory.
And let's remember the Hex Maniac ghost is a, well, ghost. Who knows if there aren't "rules" preventing her from simply traveling wherever she wants.
I never really thought that Looker was inspired by my favorite Doctor, but more by a stereotypical private detective. No, Looker doesn't remind me of The Doctor at all, and he certainly isn't as resourceful, considering that he has to depend on 10 and 11 year olds to help arrest the bad guys.
The Doctor would find them, battle them, and bring them to justice single-handedly, with maybe occasional help.
The Doctor would find them, battle them, and bring them to justice single-handedly, with maybe occasional help.
While you can possibly make an argument for his appearance being based on the 10th Doctor, the inspiration for Looker most likely comes from Inspector Koichi Zenigata from the Lupin the Third series. Lupin the Third is crazy popular in Japan and was released around the time many GameFreak employees were kids, so they probably wanted a character like someone from the series (I can't say for sure if he's accurate to how the character is, but that's where he's initially based from).
Thought of something else in the series never explained, and it worries me. What happens to the starter not chosen? Is it only chosen if a third beginner is there, like Shauna? Or does it get discarded. It might even have to wait a year or two for the chance to be chosen by new trainers.
It sits there in the lab usually, and probably waits until the region's professor can catch another of the starters that were chosen so the next trainer starting their journey still has a choice of which one they'd like.
...On that note, I kind of feel sorry for the 8 starters the player doesn't pick in OR/AS, especially the ones that aren't the Hoenn starters... (Brendan/May doesn't choose a starter, they already have theirs that just happens to have a type advantage against yours) When is Birch ever going to hand out Unova starters outside of that one time he was being chased by... the moving company's Machoke? And you'd think he'd learn to have at least one on his belt to defend himself from the vicious Poochyena...