ORAS VR Nom Post and Sample Team Request
Doing some noms in preparation for a pre-classic VR update. Also requesting sample teams from anyone kind enough to lob one. If you have a sample team, you can either submit it publically here or pm it to me, cheers. Will probs close this request in like a week.
VR stuff
My noms:
A to A+
Missy has gotten a lot better post-Pawn. It no longer has such a need to run either Wisp or HP Fighting to pressure Pawn and prevent setup, which heavily opens it up to run a multitude of potent sets. From standard breaking NP sets, with good coverage options, to WilloHex, to bulkier stallbreaker Taunt, Pain Split sets, to even Mean Look Perish Song sets, it has all the tools needed to threaten every playstyle in the tier. It also has the added bonus of completely walling the standard setup Munch set and bulkier Taunt sets also beat Duosion, which is very nice. Better than the A rank mons rn imo.
A to A-
Spikes are still good, and the choice of Taunt/Roar for bulkier setup mons is nice. It also no longer has to worry about Pawn setting up on its standard sets. However, it is far too passive and either loses to or is unable to do much to many higher ranked threats, it's not an A rank mon anymore.
B+ to A
Munchlax has gotten much better post-Pawn, as it no longer has to worry about trying to setup before Pawniard does. Current Chip Away filler Curse Rest sets are very dangerous, allowing Munchlax to sit on and break through teams. A good base 85 attack means that, even when uninvested, offensive checks such as Monferno do not appreciate switching into it. It also serves as solid counterplay to the multitude of special threats in the tier, and can beat psyshock Duosion sets. Overall, definitely worthy of a rise. It loses to encore support and usually has to pick between which ghost it can hit, but it is better than B+ post-Pawn.
A- to A
Duosion has turned into a beast post-Pawn. The standard double dance set has seen a lot of usage post-Pawn, and has become a lot more dangerous with one less premier Dark-type in the tier. In addition, less standard but still viable CM two attacks sets such as Thunder or Signal Beam work quite well to lure other Dark-type walls. It can still be shut down and stopped by Encore, Trick, phazing, Taunt to some extent etc, but it is a much bigger threat post-Pawn and deserves a raise.
B+ to A
Vullaby has gotten much better post-Pawn. It can now Defog freely without worry of Defiant, does not have to worry about letting Pawn SD up on it, and acts as a fantastic wall, Knock Off user, and hazard remover in one Mon. Also is a Dark-type, which is quite valuable in the current meta. It is far better than B+, definitely deserves A now.
B+ to B
Marsh has dropped since the last time this VR was updated. It faces heavy competition as a Stealth Rock user from the likes of Clefairy, Monferno, Gabite, Metang etc, and even faces competition as a defensive Water-type from Frillish. While its still a decent defensive wall and check and it has good 4th move options, it's too passive and susceptible to chip to make good use of it. Should be dropped.
B+ to B
Monferno is still fantastic, and now both Duosion and Munchlax are better setup Pokemon in the current tier. It can still act as a decent setup Pokemon or SpDef wall, but it gets walled by too much to be effective at either.
B to B-
Sorry Arctic but this mon is not great rn, incredibly difficult to fit onto a team and very lacklustre, should get bumped down.
B- to C
Its Defog + Rocks niche is not needed in the current meta, and there are better Rockers and defensive Water Pokemon in the tier
B- to C
Ok SpDef wall. Curse sets are outclassed by better setup Pokemon, offensive special attacker is ok but far too difficult to fit on a team, there are better special attackers.
B- to C
Still walls Roselia and is a decent Defog user but most teams would prefer Vullaby.
C+ to B
Eel probably should have been higher than C+ for a while, but post-Pawn meta has helped it somewhat, since Pawn could usually setup on standard Eel sets. Eel is a pretty good pivot rn, with access to very useful early game wall chipping and softening moves in Knock Off and Super Fang. No weaknesses, an immunity to Spikes, and access to both Volt Switch and U-turn makes it a very useful utility mon, plus it can check common threats such as Staravia, Rufflet, Kadabra etc. when defensively invested.
C- to C+
Dom's defensive resttalkvoltscald set is pretty good rn. It benefits from not being Pawn setup 70% of the time anymore, and serves as a good pivot and check to dangerous Pokemon such as Monferno and Frogadier.
Other council member noms:
Crystal:
C+ to B (ik u said B- but B opens up an extra rank to vote it to)
Frillish up to B-, it's like the best Defensive Monferno check with reliable recovery. Has Taunt means it isnt complete setup fodder and thererore it doesnt insta lose to like duo or munch. Burns or Toxics to cripple common switchins. Benefitted a lot from Pawn going but I feel it was already underranked before.
Arctic:
B+ to A
85percent:
B to B+
A- to B+
As part of an overall ORAS rankings clear-up, any Pokemon which has not been nommed but is in the B- or below rank will be put on the voting slate and placed anywhere between UR to B by the council members. Many Pokemon in the lower ranks haven't moved since ORAS was created before NFEPL 3, and I think ORAS is now developed enough to make the lower ranks more defined and accurate.
ORAS VR update should be out before ORAS Classic R1.
Murkrow B to A-
: A- to A
: B- to C+ gratz Marjane
: B- to C+
: B- to C+
: C+ to B-
: C+ to B-
: C+ to C
: C+ to C
: C+ to C-
: C to UR
: C to C-
: C- to UR
: C- to UR
: C- to UR
: C- to C
: C- to UR
: C- to UR
: C- to UR
Yanma from A- to A in DPP.
A to B+
A- to A
A- to A
A to A-
B to B+
UR to B
UR to B
B+ to B-
B to B-
C- to C+
B- to C
C- to C
C+ to C-
C to C-
B- to C-
C+ to C-
C to UR
C to UR
to A? Idk maybe its worthy of A+. All I know is pursuit being removed was good for the game, ty ss.
to A. GOAT MON. Far better than the trash in A-
to B. Still Heat tho.
to B. Overrated
to B. One of my fav mons, but it honestly isnt top top tier. Nasty Plot is an ok MU fish. Defensive is cool, but meh.
to B-. Terrible pokemon.
to B-. Very scary pokemon, but I have a hard time justifying it over Bulky DD Taunt Fraxure. Cool set people should use it.
to A-. I too like broken pokemon. Banded Brave Bird 2hkos max def toxapex, mew, and i believe it is a role to 2hko max def arceus. Nice!
I too like worse rufflet. Cool.
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to B-. Good mon, but bad players are notorious for using it.
to B-. Nasty Plot can be a legit threat. This mon can check/counter Serv/Rose.
to UR. What does this thing use. Sub Bdrum salac??????
to ur. It doesnt deserve to share a rank with THE shelmet. What does this thing do btw in this meta??????????
: UR to C
: UR to C
: C- to UR
