last time i talked to him was early last year...oh god
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Online deaths
- Thread starter Mountain Dewgong
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Re: Judgement
I actually got in contact with Michael's sister on FaceBook last week after I posted here. I mostly sent her info about the forums and how much this place (as well as Pokemon in general) meant to him, but apparently it was really well received by his family.
I'm told they would like to thank everyone for their condolences. Thanks a lot for posting guys! Apparently they were surprised he was so well known here.
On that note, if anyone can dig up any kind of post or chat quote related to the dude that means something to them, that would actually be really rad. I told his sister I'd do my best to find her specific posts from him, but that's really hard to do with the new post profile system here. As well as NSider closing down several years ago.
I realize this is asking a bit much, so if that's not possible don't sweat it.
I actually got in contact with Michael's sister on FaceBook last week after I posted here. I mostly sent her info about the forums and how much this place (as well as Pokemon in general) meant to him, but apparently it was really well received by his family.
I'm told they would like to thank everyone for their condolences. Thanks a lot for posting guys! Apparently they were surprised he was so well known here.
On that note, if anyone can dig up any kind of post or chat quote related to the dude that means something to them, that would actually be really rad. I told his sister I'd do my best to find her specific posts from him, but that's really hard to do with the new post profile system here. As well as NSider closing down several years ago.
I realize this is asking a bit much, so if that's not possible don't sweat it.
After a very brief search I didn't turn up anything that really stood out, but you can tell them that he was a well-liked and well-respected poster. His contributions to Smogon were noticed and he was a moderator of the Congregation of the Masses forum for quite a while, and if I remember correctly he was also a tutor in the tutor program. On top of all that, he helped behind the scenes in the site staff forum, offering his opinions and insights.
This is what is on my mind 24/7.
I always dread thinking about this sort of thing. Not because of others dying, I'm 17 and in the past 3 years of highschool 7 of my friends (2 good friends) have died, so I've come to terms with missing others. But rather because I dread thinking of fading off into obscurity without anyone thinking a second thought about me. But I seem to yearn for that sort of thing, I can't ever manage to stay attached to a circle of friends long enough to become significant in their lives, and as a result I am known but not liked by many people.
Also, I dread thinking about what my parents would see in the search history of the computer if I was dead. That would be... disheartening.
Also, I dread thinking about what my parents would see in the search history of the computer if I was dead. That would be... disheartening.
Perhaps you should clear the History periodically?
Lmao, my parents wouldn't even know how to check the history.
even if they did, it wouldn't change anything.
Also, you're dead, you wouln't give a shit if someone sees that you were looking at "mexican sanchez extremo cape" porn.
I like to think my computer is a snapshot into my life over the last X months, the X being the months I've had it. I label old desktop or computer dumps, but typically it's scattered and random like how I select to save things. I would HOPE that viewing ANYTHING on my computer would be like a Pompeii into my mind.
I used to chat with judge all the time back on netbattle.. And on the NSider forums, and here, and serebii..
RIP
He's one of the few people I've ever "befriended" online
RIP
He's one of the few people I've ever "befriended" online
Funny you should mention it, I literally was JUST about to post something in IS. It needs to happen asap.
Today I was browsing through another Pokemon Forum that I haven't yet joined but I came across this thread and got member confirmation of it occuring click here. Sad :(. I didn't know him but still.
A few years ago someone whom I frequently talked to on another forum (and he's a moderator) suddenly stopped posting after a holiday break, so I wondered what happened. Even on AIM, he has never signed on since then. The logical conclusions are that he died during some trip or, in the best case scenario, lost his mental capacity. Shame though, he was a nice person.
One of my friends years ago I met on Diablo 2 all of a sudden gave me alot of stuff on the game, which I thought was awesome but never thought about why he was doing it, and one day he asked me what a quick painless way to kill yourself was and I thought two things, one, he was joking, and two, he was talking about the game he played, so I joked and said I didnt know, and he said he was serious. I asked him why he wanted to do that and he explained the story (personal) to me and for a month or so after he would be on the game occansionally, but one day he stopped.
After that, I understood how people say that they can be basically best friends with people they never met in real life, so now on that game I hello and goodbye to all of my friends whenever I can.
After that, I understood how people say that they can be basically best friends with people they never met in real life, so now on that game I hello and goodbye to all of my friends whenever I can.
yeah, everyone thought that i'd died when i left my old forum
It gave then quite a shock when i returned 1 year later :P
It gave then quite a shock when i returned 1 year later :P
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/magazine/09Immortality-t.html/?WT.mc_id=MG-SM-E-FB-SM-LIN-CWY-010511-NYT-NA&WT.mc_ev=click
An interesting article that just came out on this topic, which is funny because I had never really thought about this before reading this thread and then a few days later a huge NYT article on it.
An interesting article that just came out on this topic, which is funny because I had never really thought about this before reading this thread and then a few days later a huge NYT article on it.
Oh, man, this thread is just sobering after looking through a few pages of this.
Echoing what Philip said a while back, most people tend to know and respect the friends you have in real life much more than the ones you would meet online, moreso if you are like me and use the computer at times where it is detrimental to daily life. I havent really made any friends here yet, but for SURE there have been some people here who have helped me out online almost from the start, thankfully none of which have died.
However, if someone dies on on online messaging board you are in and you become emotional about it, tbh some people would see you as kind of weird, since they are not really as tangible as friends that they can say hi to in person. Ex: say if I was on Bulbapedia boards and someone who had helped me out in the very beggining of my existence there had become really close, close enough to call a true 'friend', had gone up and died, I would sure be sad. The scary thing is that you wouldnt really know about this unless They had notified someone beforehand on say Facebook or even another member of the forums, who would then notify the general populace. It would just seem like they left the site. Nothing would seem odd about that if say they were new, but if they were a well respected member in the community, I think someone would take notice.
In my personal opinion, it is certainly possible to make a friend online which can rival and even surpass a friend which yo have made in your personal life, especially if you have more than one way of communicating and if you have a special connection in some way, if friendship wasnt already enough. You could, hypothetically, grieve them like you would a real friend.
The fact that my parents turned it on random zen music with a slightly Eastern twist to it helps to sober my mood right about now when I post this. However, dont get me wrong, I have never had any thoughts about going in my life, though I occasionally plan how I would leave my home and go somewhere far away, due to situations.
Echoing what Philip said a while back, most people tend to know and respect the friends you have in real life much more than the ones you would meet online, moreso if you are like me and use the computer at times where it is detrimental to daily life. I havent really made any friends here yet, but for SURE there have been some people here who have helped me out online almost from the start, thankfully none of which have died.
However, if someone dies on on online messaging board you are in and you become emotional about it, tbh some people would see you as kind of weird, since they are not really as tangible as friends that they can say hi to in person. Ex: say if I was on Bulbapedia boards and someone who had helped me out in the very beggining of my existence there had become really close, close enough to call a true 'friend', had gone up and died, I would sure be sad. The scary thing is that you wouldnt really know about this unless They had notified someone beforehand on say Facebook or even another member of the forums, who would then notify the general populace. It would just seem like they left the site. Nothing would seem odd about that if say they were new, but if they were a well respected member in the community, I think someone would take notice.
In my personal opinion, it is certainly possible to make a friend online which can rival and even surpass a friend which yo have made in your personal life, especially if you have more than one way of communicating and if you have a special connection in some way, if friendship wasnt already enough. You could, hypothetically, grieve them like you would a real friend.
The fact that my parents turned it on random zen music with a slightly Eastern twist to it helps to sober my mood right about now when I post this. However, dont get me wrong, I have never had any thoughts about going in my life, though I occasionally plan how I would leave my home and go somewhere far away, due to situations.
Okay, I'm trying hard not to cry right now...seriously.
Anyway, I thought about this a few times before, and my solution would be to write a will containing your user name and password for all the sites you go to, asking the people you leave when you die to tell the people on those sites what happened. I guess that sort of thing is tricky, but it could work theoretically.
And I don't know anyone on any forums I'm on who died yet thank God. I don't think I would be able to take that sort of thing if it happened.
Anyway, I thought about this a few times before, and my solution would be to write a will containing your user name and password for all the sites you go to, asking the people you leave when you die to tell the people on those sites what happened. I guess that sort of thing is tricky, but it could work theoretically.
And I don't know anyone on any forums I'm on who died yet thank God. I don't think I would be able to take that sort of thing if it happened.
This thread is depressing as hell. Anyhow pain is something I would not want to feel. I don't want go THAT close, to the point you feel the same amount of pain you would feel, if a loved one died.
You never know if someone dies or not, which is the problem. Ignorance is bliss....
You never know if someone dies or not, which is the problem. Ignorance is bliss....
In light of recent events, I've been thinking a lot about things like this. In the age of Facebook, it is really difficult to lose track of people you actually care about after what were previously pretty major shifts in lifestyles (high school, college) unless neither of you care to pursue a continued relationship. Even then, unless you take an active role in blocking everything that they are doing on your News Feed, you're still getting a pretty good idea of what your (potentially) former friends are doing. Ultimately this pushes regular communication more towards the "impersonal" internet communication of facebook chat, forums, and instant messenging programs.
Personally, the internet has played a pretty huge part in my life. While online communities have really only been a relatively recent part of that, my high school girlfriend lived a very protected life so, outside of our interactions during school hours and occasional weekends, the bulk of our "relationship" happened online. Similarly, my only real college "relationship" consisted of a drunken meetup leading to a Facebook add leading to IM chats leading to an actual in person relationship. And after those relationships inevitably fell apart, they along with my friends from those periods in my life, linger on via Facebook and the ease of text messaging and the internet.
I guess what I am saying is, while in those cases the internet was a supplement to the physical, that didn't make the internet portion any less "real." This has been confirmed in my meeting various Smogonauts either via the Video Game Championships last year or just they were coming through my town (or I theirs) and connecting with them. Society is undergoing a paradigm shift away from internet relationships as the last refuge of the social outcasts, geeks, and nerds, and towards the internet as merely a means for discovering people with similar personalities and interests as yourself, only across the country and not just locally. Given all of that, it is unsurprising to think of how the death of even someone you may not talk to every day will still hit you pretty hard. It would be the same as if one of your "real life" third tier friends died and I think that everyone can agree that, while maybe it doesn't send you to a psychiatrist, that really sucks.
Personally, the internet has played a pretty huge part in my life. While online communities have really only been a relatively recent part of that, my high school girlfriend lived a very protected life so, outside of our interactions during school hours and occasional weekends, the bulk of our "relationship" happened online. Similarly, my only real college "relationship" consisted of a drunken meetup leading to a Facebook add leading to IM chats leading to an actual in person relationship. And after those relationships inevitably fell apart, they along with my friends from those periods in my life, linger on via Facebook and the ease of text messaging and the internet.
I guess what I am saying is, while in those cases the internet was a supplement to the physical, that didn't make the internet portion any less "real." This has been confirmed in my meeting various Smogonauts either via the Video Game Championships last year or just they were coming through my town (or I theirs) and connecting with them. Society is undergoing a paradigm shift away from internet relationships as the last refuge of the social outcasts, geeks, and nerds, and towards the internet as merely a means for discovering people with similar personalities and interests as yourself, only across the country and not just locally. Given all of that, it is unsurprising to think of how the death of even someone you may not talk to every day will still hit you pretty hard. It would be the same as if one of your "real life" third tier friends died and I think that everyone can agree that, while maybe it doesn't send you to a psychiatrist, that really sucks.
Addie was a dick but he was a great friend of mine. Back in the day we used to be part of the "badgeless contributors" club and it was a joke he and I shared. We were honestly very close, but he was very careful with who he was and personal information, so it's hard to tell if he really just up and left so suddenly, or if something terrible did really happen.
If anyone knows anything about addie (colloquy) or anything could you please contact me? I really need to know what happened to this guy, we joked around about him yeah, but today I realized that I may never get to talk to someone who I once considered a good friend. So please, if anyone knows anything (AIM, anything) then let me know.