Sticky Orange Islands SQSA Thread

A couple of mechanical questions about double battles I don't think I've ever seen answered satisfactorily:
  • Let's say Pokemon A uses Protect and its partner Pokemon B gets hit by Blizzard. Does Pokemon B take the full amount of damage they would in a single battle, or is it still halved?
  • If Pokemon A and B get hit by a spread move but Pokemon A is immune to it, same question
  • If Pokemon A uses Helping Hand, gets knocked out, then Pokemon B uses its move, is Pokemon B's move still boosted?
 
  • Let's say Pokemon A uses Protect and its partner Pokemon B gets hit by Blizzard. Does Pokemon B take the full amount of damage they would in a single battle, or is it still halved?
  • If Pokemon A and B get hit by a spread move but Pokemon A is immune to it, same question
No, as the move still functionally hit 2 pokemon, even though one was immune to it. (In case of moves that hit your partner as well, the move will still get the 25% damage reduction even if on the other side of the field there's only 1 pokemon)
The only move afaik that has a specific case for this is Dragon Darts which while is normally going to hit each target once, it will double hit the vulnerable pokemon if the other is immune / protecting.

  • If Pokemon A uses Helping Hand, gets knocked out, then Pokemon B uses its move, is Pokemon B's move still boosted?
Afaik the boost stays since it's basically a invisible status condition. I've seen people yolo HH in VGC if you expect your support mon will get KOd that turn regardless and may as well get that last ditch off.
It's also part of 1shot strategies in tera raids where the support mons are very likely to get deleted after they use the move.
 
For the Pokedex tasks like the Magearna or Meloetta in Home, do the Pokemon have to originate from the game their Dex tracks (i.e. must have a Paldea mark to count for Paldea task)?

I've heard PoGo transfers don't count, but unsure if that's because they're NOT Paldea or because they're Go Origin (since they have other quirks like Legendaries not being first-transferable into a File that hasn't had one of them already). So curious if I could use mons from my old Bank storage, or if SwSh mons count for Paldea when they appear in both.
 
For the Pokedex tasks like the Magearna or Meloetta in Home, do the Pokemon have to originate from the game their Dex tracks (i.e. must have a Paldea mark to count for Paldea task)?

I've heard PoGo transfers don't count, but unsure if that's because they're NOT Paldea or because they're Go Origin (since they have other quirks like Legendaries not being first-transferable into a File that hasn't had one of them already). So curious if I could use mons from my old Bank storage, or if SwSh mons count for Paldea when they appear in both.
It is entirely based on the Origin of the Pokemon

If you had Go Tynamo in Home, it will only ever count for the Go Pokedex. It must be a Paldean Tynamo to count for the Paldea Dexes.

Note that the game doesn't differentiate between Kitakami, the Terrarium or mainland Paldea so a single Paldean Tynamo will count for all three of the SV Dexes.

e: And Magearna doesn't care about this for the national dex had every Pokemon touch Home.
 
It is entirely based on the Origin of the Pokemon

If you had Go Tynamo in Home, it will only ever count for the Go Pokedex. It must be a Paldean Tynamo to count for the Paldea Dexes.

Note that the game doesn't differentiate between Kitakami, the Terrarium or mainland Paldea so a single Paldean Tynamo will count for all three of the SV Dexes.
Mildly annoying since that means a Living Dex doesn't futureproof for later dex rewards, and I'll probably be miffed when the Galar Dexs get a Shiny Mythical (since I skipped buying SwSh for myself), but at least good to have cleared up.
 
Mildly annoying since that means a Living Dex doesn't futureproof for later dex rewards, and I'll probably be miffed when the Galar Dexs get a Shiny Mythical (since I skipped buying SwSh for myself), but at least good to have cleared up.
If you think of it, that's very likely intentional.

If just having pokemon registered counted, then you'd basically "autoqualify" for every single reward in a single swoop by finishing nat dex and with relatively minimal effort every generation that comes.
 
Mildly annoying since that means a Living Dex doesn't futureproof for later dex rewards, and I'll probably be miffed when the Galar Dexs get a Shiny Mythical (since I skipped buying SwSh for myself), but at least good to have cleared up.
By the way, assuming that every Game's dex does get a mythic down the line, then it's worth noting that L:A's Pokedex in Home requires Shaymin & Darkrai.

For some reason it's the only game that does this, the other Pokedexes exclude the non-required Pokemon (ie: BDSP doesn't require Manaphy, Blueberry doesn't require Walking Wake, Iron Leaves or Pecharunt, etc)
 
If you think of it, that's very likely intentional.

If just having pokemon registered counted, then you'd basically "autoqualify" for every single reward in a single swoop by finishing nat dex and with relatively minimal effort every generation that comes.
I should point out that this has always been the case since Home came out, even when the only "reward" was a wall paper.
iirc even the Switch version's Research challenges -the ones that give literally nothing for completing them- work on this principle.
 
By the way, assuming that every Game's dex does get a mythic down the line, then it's worth noting that L:A's Pokedex in Home requires Shaymin & Darkrai.

For some reason it's the only game that does this, the other Pokedexes exclude the non-required Pokemon (ie: BDSP doesn't require Manaphy, Blueberry doesn't require Walking Wake, Iron Leaves or Pecharunt, etc)
That's likely because everything else is a timed event you could potentially miss (though I think Pecharunt's is currently undefined?) while Darkrai and Shaymin in PLA only require save data, meaning there's no time limit to miss
 
That's likely because everything else is a timed event you could potentially miss (though I think Pecharunt's is currently undefined?) while Darkrai and Shaymin in PLA only require save data, meaning there's no time limit to miss

afaik Pecharunt’s is permanent, but would require you being able to actually get the Mystery Gift (does that require Switch Online?)
 
That's likely because everything else is a timed event you could potentially miss (though I think Pecharunt's is currently undefined?) while Darkrai and Shaymin in PLA only require save data, meaning there's no time limit to miss
Pecharunt explicitly doesn't have a time limit (beyond "as long as the servers are up", which is going to have significantly more Problems involved for Home), no.
Incidentally Let's Go doesn't care about Mew (just requires another product like the pair) or Meltan/Melmetal (available for as long as Go exists).

Shaymin & Darkrai are technically more future proof in so far as they don't have to worry about servers going down, games being pulled or products being discontinued (does pokeball++ even come with mews, actually?), but honestly it feels more of an oversight than a "these two are okay" situation. The L:A dex is also the only one that requires Mythics to "complete" to begin with (Arceus, Phione, Manaphy) so I can see ILCA just having the other 2 there as an over sight.
 
If a Pokémon levels up during a battle to a level that would make them evolve, they faint, and then you revive them; do they evolve after the battle is over or not?
I believe the trigger is "did the pokemon level up" and "are they alive at the end of the battle", yes.

My memory might be conflating something (maybe how Maushold works) but In SV I think it goes a step further and they just evolve regardless even if they're knocked out.

e: I went ahead and pulled out a gen 5 game since the dark grass made this simple to test
Went into a double battle, KO'd a Liepard to give a Wurmple enough exp to hit the evolve threshold, had the wurmle KO'd, revived it, beat up the remaining minccino, Wurmple evolved after the battle.
 
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I believe the trigger is "did the pokemon level up" and "are they alive at the end of the battle", yes.

My memory might be conflating something (maybe how Maushold works) but In SV I think it goes a step further and they just evolve regardless even if they're knocked out.

e: I went ahead and pulled out a gen 5 game since the dark grass made this simple to test
Went into a double battle, KO'd a Liepard to give a Wurmple enough exp to hit the evolve threshold, had the wurmle KO'd, revived it, beat up the remaining minccino, Wurmple evolved after the battle.
Pokemon could always evolve while fainted since Gen 1. They just changed it so you could evolve after losing a battle in Gen 6.
 
So this is quite infuriating...

Ever since the Meloetta drop last week I've started actually taking an interest in my game-specific Pokedexes on Home, i.e. where each Pokemon was natively obtained. Previously I was just like "got the dex entry, whevs". I never bought SwSh so I obviously traded for everything from those games, though I transfer stuff over from Go & the previous generations fairly regularly.

But I'm looking at my Galar dex right now and... it's saying I don't have an Arctovish from SwSh. I don't currently have an Arctovish in my storage to check... but I do have it registered. So where else could I have gotten it from? Similarly, it says I have Grookey and Rillaboom but not Thwackey. I completed the dex long before Grookey debuted in Pokemon Go so that cannot be correct - the only place it could have come from is SwSh! I have a Thwackey in my storage right now - but it's from ScVi.

Is there anything I can do to retroactively make the older Pokemon "count"? Or do I have to reobtain all these species all over again?
 
Pokemon could always evolve while fainted since Gen 1. They just changed it so you could evolve after losing a battle in Gen 6.
Let me tell you I could have saved significantly more time & resources if I just let this happen over the years.
So this is quite infuriating...

Ever since the Meloetta drop last week I've started actually taking an interest in my game-specific Pokedexes on Home, i.e. where each Pokemon was natively obtained. Previously I was just like "got the dex entry, whevs". I never bought SwSh so I obviously traded for everything from those games, though I transfer stuff over from Go & the previous generations fairly regularly.

But I'm looking at my Galar dex right now and... it's saying I don't have an Arctovish from SwSh. I don't currently have an Arctovish in my storage to check... but I do have it registered. So where else could I have gotten it from? Similarly, it says I have Grookey and Rillaboom but not Thwackey. I completed the dex long before Grookey debuted in Pokemon Go so that cannot be correct - the only place it could have come from is SwSh! I have a Thwackey in my storage right now - but it's from ScVi.

Is there anything I can do to retroactively make the older Pokemon "count"? Or do I have to reobtain all these species all over again?
Very odd glitch for home -I only experienced something similar with Bank transfers- but I think your only options are: reacquire the species (when I was trying to get things registered before SV came out, I had to re-transfer over several Pokemon) or place the species in a game and then pull them back out (this was the other thing I did before SV's DLC came out so things like Darkrai's dumb Bad Dreams would count properly).
And since you don't have any of the Switch titles, you'll have to go back to the GTS & just start looping for what you need or arrange trades.
 
Let me tell you I could have saved significantly more time & resources if I just let this happen over the years.

Very odd glitch for home -I only experienced something similar with Bank transfers- but I think your only options are: reacquire the species (when I was trying to get things registered before SV came out, I had to re-transfer over several Pokemon) or place the species in a game and then pull them back out (this was the other thing I did before SV's DLC came out so things like Darkrai's dumb Bad Dreams would count properly).
And since you don't have any of the Switch titles, you'll have to go back to the GTS & just start looping for what you need or arrange trades.

This was what I feared. Well, I ain't grinding all over again just to get that Meloetta. Slow and steady it is, I'll get her in about a decade.
 
So this is quite infuriating...

Ever since the Meloetta drop last week I've started actually taking an interest in my game-specific Pokedexes on Home, i.e. where each Pokemon was natively obtained. Previously I was just like "got the dex entry, whevs". I never bought SwSh so I obviously traded for everything from those games, though I transfer stuff over from Go & the previous generations fairly regularly.

But I'm looking at my Galar dex right now and... it's saying I don't have an Arctovish from SwSh. I don't currently have an Arctovish in my storage to check... but I do have it registered. So where else could I have gotten it from? Similarly, it says I have Grookey and Rillaboom but not Thwackey. I completed the dex long before Grookey debuted in Pokemon Go so that cannot be correct - the only place it could have come from is SwSh! I have a Thwackey in my storage right now - but it's from ScVi.

Is there anything I can do to retroactively make the older Pokemon "count"? Or do I have to reobtain all these species all over again?
Your Thwackey was probably evolved from the Home gift Grookey.

I couldn't tell you how you managed to get non-SwSh Arctovish though, maybe it was badly hacked?
 
Your Thwackey was probably evolved from the Home gift Grookey.

I couldn't tell you how you managed to get non-SwSh Arctovish though, maybe it was badly hacked?

I think it's more likely that it's simply not recognising anything from before the v2 update where the tracker system came in. I may have had a SwSh Thwackey at some point in the past but I don't have one now, so it doesn't count.
 
I think it's more likely that it's simply not recognising anything from before the v2 update where the tracker system came in. I may have had a SwSh Thwackey at some point in the past but I don't have one now, so it doesn't count.
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I think it's more likely that it's simply not recognising anything from before the v2 update where the tracker system came in. I may have had a SwSh Thwackey at some point in the past but I don't have one now, so it doesn't count.
That's probably correct for Arctovish, but I literally have the same thing with Grookey and I know for a fact that the only Grookey I've ever had in there is the Home gift one.
 
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