Fairy typing, two great abilities and a hilariously deep movepool allow it to fit onto teams very easily. Yes, it's base stats are lacking but they are well-distributed. Overall, it can fit a bunch of different roles. It can be a sweeper (Life Orb Magic Guard), hazard-setter, cleric (although it's somewhat outclassed there) and Unaware Stopper off the top of my head.
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Hey,
I didnt know wehre to ask this, but is cynthias team with movepool and item updates good? If it it's: what would you change?
I didnt know wehre to ask this, but is cynthias team with movepool and item updates good? If it it's: what would you change?
Yes, because it only prevents attacking
If you mean from DPP to B2W2, then yes her team receives a different move pool and they receive items. I would say that they improve for the better, but that's based on opinion.
no, I wanted to ask if I could make it somewhat viable for competetive battling, but thank you
Yes, Mainly because it prevents you from making a move, just like sleep.
I'm sure that you can by altering the sets to be more competitively inclined
How's my OU team?
Charizard-Mega-X @ Charizardite X
Ability: Tough Claws
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Fire Punch
Keldeo @ Leftovers
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Secret Sword
- Aqua Jet
- Swords Dance
- Poison Jab
Landorus (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Force
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Calm Mind
- Earth Power
- Sludge Bomb
- Extrasensory
Gengar @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Dazzling Gleam
- Destiny Bond
- Shadow Ball
- Sludge Bomb
Chansey (F) @ Eviolite
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Relaxed Nature
- Blizzard
- Body Slam
- Healing Wish
- Hyper Voice
Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 HP / 184 Def / 72 Spe
Impish Nature
- U-turn
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
Charizard-Mega-X @ Charizardite X
Ability: Tough Claws
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Fire Punch
Keldeo @ Leftovers
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Secret Sword
- Aqua Jet
- Swords Dance
- Poison Jab
Landorus (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Force
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Calm Mind
- Earth Power
- Sludge Bomb
- Extrasensory
Gengar @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Dazzling Gleam
- Destiny Bond
- Shadow Ball
- Sludge Bomb
Chansey (F) @ Eviolite
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Relaxed Nature
- Blizzard
- Body Slam
- Healing Wish
- Hyper Voice
Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 HP / 184 Def / 72 Spe
Impish Nature
- U-turn
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
fartfart2, I'd recommend putting your team in the RMT part of Smogon,
http://www.smogon.com/forums/forums/xy-ou-teams.261/.
http://www.smogon.com/forums/forums/xy-ou-teams.261/.
No, mixed charizard x is not a good set. Mixed mega charizard Y with earthquake to smack Heatran certainly isn't bad.
I like it and hate it at the same time, good team but i would hate going up against it.
That seems like a waist of a special atk
Mixed Zard Y is actually surprisingly good, as it allows it to get past several threats that it normally would be totally walled by.
My question is, what's a good counter/check to Garchomp/Mega Garchomp that can fit well on a hyper offence team?
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Anything I could change?
No that isn't a mixed zard X as it has 3 physical moves and dragon dance.
How is it a mixed Keldeo it has 3 physical moves and swords dance
Sorry, saw the Hasty nature and assumed. Either way, Specs or Scarf
Azumarill is the best... But ho really can't afford to run counters for specific mons, azu is the closest you'll
Good checks are greninja, scarfed Lando, scarftar with icebeam etc.
Normally it would be; the point of a mixed attacker, though, is being able to power through when the opponent brings in something extremely physically tanky. However, between Dragon Dance and the boost from Tough Claws, there's nothing physically tanky enough to significantly slow down a Mega Charizard X for very long, anyway; once he gets a couple of dragon dances down, the only real way to stop the bastard is to shut it down somehow, not to simply take its attacks. Special attacks are therefore redundant and can be dropped in favor of a coverage or support move.
Tough Claws is really what seals it, because there's basically nothing physically tanky enough and specially weak enough that, say, Fire Blast is going to outperform Flare Blitz well enough to justify taking Fire Blast over EQ or something.
This, very rarely have I ever had to switch out a Zard X that got off a couple of boosts.
Taking advantage of Tough Claws gives Zard X a free Life Orb, giving up on that to run something like overheat for coverage that doesn't really matter really isn't going to help him take down anything. Overheat is his best choice because AFAIK he doesn't get access to Draco Meteor, and even if he did, I have yet to encounter any dragon that DClaw doesn't OHKO before or after a boost. Flare Blitz destroys things pretty well, though my preference is (the laughed at) Flame Charge to keep up on how fast the damn meta is.
I really like either Brick Break or Steel Wing in that last slot, depending on team coverage. Both have comparable power to EQ after a Tough Claws boost (97.5 and 91, respectively) and have secondary uses in breaking through screens, fairies, and/or exploding a Chansey in one hit.
if pokemon A can "guarantee to 3HKO after Leftovers" pokemon B, can B be considered as a counter to A? what is the benchmark to be a counter in general?
If Pokemon B has reliable recovery, and Pokemon A has no access to boosting moves (and of course, if Pokemon B can do anything back to Pokemon A), then it's a counter. Otherwise, it's more of a solid check.
Generally speaking, a counter is a Pokemon that can switch into another Pokemon and beat it from there, that's the main definition. However, you have to consider how easily said "counter" gets worn down : for instance, Rotom-W isn't a full counter to MPinsir, since it will get worn down by repeated switches into it.
ok ... so in my scenario, B does counter A?
also, by that definition, what exactly counter mega charizard x?
Is Physical Nidoking at all worth considering? Whether in this tier or a lower one? The Elemental Punches hit about the same damage as the beams (difference of 2-3%), as does EQ (though LO recoil). However, there's a noticeable power difference with Gunk Shot
252 SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Nidoking Sludge Wave vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mew: 199-234 (58.3 - 68.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Nidoking Gunk Shot vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 281-331 (82.4 - 97%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
If all of the other moves are about the same, but there's that big a power difference for one of its STABs, what in particular makes it so much less viable?
As I understand, these are the definitions to know.
Counter: Can switch into anything the opponent does and win 1v1 in any scenario (SR, getting to +1 on a switch, etc.)
Check: Given a safe switch (VoltTurn, Sacking, Phazed in, etc), the Pokemon will win 1v1.
There's also "Hard" and "Soft" checks/counters. Soft checks/counters will perform the job for sure at least once, but risk being overwhelmed. "Hard" checks/counters will be able to do this consistently.
For example: Physically Defensive Rotom-W is a counter to Mega Pinsir if it can switch into any move (Boosted Quick Attack, Return, CC) and cripple Pinsir (Will-o-wisp) or knock it out no matter what; however, it's a "soft" counter since it can't reliably heal itself to do this over and over.
252 SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Nidoking Sludge Wave vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mew: 199-234 (58.3 - 68.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Nidoking Gunk Shot vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 281-331 (82.4 - 97%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
If all of the other moves are about the same, but there's that big a power difference for one of its STABs, what in particular makes it so much less viable?
In your scenario, it comes down to whether Pokemon B can recover the damage it took. If it can heal and knock the opponent out it's a counter. If not, it's a check.
As I understand, these are the definitions to know.
Counter: Can switch into anything the opponent does and win 1v1 in any scenario (SR, getting to +1 on a switch, etc.)
Check: Given a safe switch (VoltTurn, Sacking, Phazed in, etc), the Pokemon will win 1v1.
There's also "Hard" and "Soft" checks/counters. Soft checks/counters will perform the job for sure at least once, but risk being overwhelmed. "Hard" checks/counters will be able to do this consistently.
For example: Physically Defensive Rotom-W is a counter to Mega Pinsir if it can switch into any move (Boosted Quick Attack, Return, CC) and cripple Pinsir (Will-o-wisp) or knock it out no matter what; however, it's a "soft" counter since it can't reliably heal itself to do this over and over.
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