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[OU]Machamp And His Assistant

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Thnx Shizzle,I Will Try To Use Vaporeon > Starmie Atm.Still Testing,Also,Why Cant I Used Toxic > Hp Electric?Also I Will Try Signal Beam Or Substitute > Wish At Jolteon ;)
 
I guess I was looking at another team at the time lol, Toxic or Ice Beam would work fine, seeing as you have Jolteon that can revenge +1 Gyarados, as well as Thunderpunch on Flygon.
 
Zachary said:
I think that with your lead,

1. You're missing the point of most other leads, which is to set up as soon as possible and get out (except suicide leads, who set up as soon as possible and faint). Knocking them out in 2-3 turns is pointless, as you've let them accomplish their goal and yet you haven't set up anything of your own.
2. DynamicPunch has 50% accuracy, which is absolutely dreadful. It may be handy later in the game, but not as your leading move--as the opponent will use that turn to set up Stealth Rock or Spikes or Trick Room.

Take, for example, Aerodactyl. You use DynamicPunch, then Bullet Punch. In that time, Aerodactyl has thrown down Stealth Rock and accomplished everything it set out to do.

Not OHKO-ing Ninjask means it can get in a Substitute regardless of speed (and odds are, if it's a lead Ninjask, it's faster than Machamp), then proceed to Baton Pass its speed boosts to the opponent's sweeper and take you out.

Your lead isn't a sweeper. It's not just there to take out a Pokemon. You have to either actively stop them from setting up, or set up despite them.

Also, Trick Room would devastate this team, as most of them are pretty fast. It's good to have at least one slower Pokemon, usually something like Bronzong that's bulky enough to hold its own with low speed if Trick Room isn't used.
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^ This poster does not understand what No Guard means. So what if Stealth Rock is set up, your opponent must now face a full health Machamp with a Lum Berry. Machamp is infamously difficult to switch into, which you obviously haven't realized.

Trick Room devastates most OU teams, bud. They focus mainly on speed in this metagame, and Trick Room is the monkey wrench in the works. Obviously, with fast guys on this team he certainly will suffer from Trick Room but in most cases I can see him overwhelming his opponents with his speed.

I second the motion of replacing Starmie with Vaporeon; this team needs serious bulk, and you don't have a safe switch-in for Scizor. To solidify your anti-Scizor defense, I recommend that you swap Jolteon for Magnezone, as Jolteon is revenge killing the things that technically Flygon is already killing, but Flygon is faster and has twin STABs to abuse as well as U-turn. So, replacing Jolteon with Magnezone would make you almost perfectly insured against Scizor since you have Vaporeon and Magnezone together.
 
Vaporeon Seems To Work Abit Not Much Like Starmie Did.Removing Toxic Spikes.Anymore Suggestions?

Guys Now u can use Rotom's Formes For This Team.Now I'm Shoddying
 
Yep,definitely try out Rotom-A over Gengar, because Starmie and Jolteon give all the offensive special power you need, and Rotom-A serves as a check/wall to many pokemon, making for a safer switch in, which not many other pokemon in your team can do.
 
A very nice layout and team. I think though a better rapid spinner would be Donphan. Seeing you need a good physical wall and offensive pokemon. Starmie does not have as good defense as Donphan and still has great offensive stats.
 
@Shizzle Ev Spread For Rotom-A Pls.Also I'm Trying Out Vaporeon And Magnezone.Since To Revenge Kill Scizor

@Hehe No.That Will At Ice/Grass/Water Weakness.

@GarGant I Will Try Magnezone And Vaporean But EV Spread Pls.
 
The standard physical wall set should do, you would want Rotom-A over Vaporeon/Magnezone simply because Vappy can lose to SD LO variants, and Magnezone can't take Brick Breaks, and he doesn't help your team, whereas Rotom-A consistently beats Scizor. Not to mention a Ghost pokemon is nearly staple with the amount of Machamp's running around, and you need something to tank out those Close Combats from Infernape.

Rotom-H @ Leftovers
Bold - Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 168 Def / 88 Spe
Moves:
~ Thunderbolt / Discharge
~ Shadow Ball
~ Overheat
~ Will-O-Wisp
 
Hi there. I got your VM.
First off I see that you want to base the team around Infernape. To this end I suggest a Shuca Heatran over Jolteon. Heatran gives you Stealth Rock and a powerfull explosion which allows you to better beal with Stall since Infernape cannot break through stall by itself. As I stated SR is very important in this metagame and on an offensive team such as this it is really nice to get that extra damage.

Heatran can stil check Swampert by carrying HP Grass just like Jolteon does. Also Jolteon is not countering Starmie. By definition a counter is a pokemon that can switch in to a pokemon with little risk to itself. This is why Jolteon is not a Gyarados counter since it cannot switch in on an Earthquake. Flygon checks Starmie well enough anyway via U-turn and Thunder Punch.

I am also going to suggest you using thi EV spread on Vaporeon.216 Def / 60 SpA / 232 SpD.
used on Twash's RMT it alows Vaporeon to take hits from Starmie and the like as well as deal with physical threats.

Hope I helped

Have a Nice Day!
 
Your Format Is Incredibly Annoying And Makes The RMT Ridiculously Hard To Read. Please use lower case <_<

Anyway, I don't see why you use Hidden Power [Electric] on Infernape. You have two solid counters to Gyarados in Rotom-A and Vaporeon; change it to Hidden Power [Ice], which hits Gliscor and Dragonite, Stone Edge, for Zapdos, Mach Punch / Vacuum Wave, for priority, or Nasty Plot, if you get gutsy late-game and go for a sweep.
 
@GingaNinja Jolteon Is There To Kill Starmies/Celebis/Rotoms/Swamperts/Vaporeons/Gyarados.But I Will Try The EV Spread For Vaporeon

@ThePowerWithin Vaporeon Does Counter Gyrados And Rotom Too.But,When You Switch Out Infernape,They Will Always Switch To Gyarados Scaring You Off And They Get a DD Up,To Counter That,I Use HP Electric.
 
august locked an RMT you posted today since it was violating rule #13. august clearly said to wait 11 days for that thread to be un-locked. Don't try and post another RMT until 11 days have passed. Please be patient and wait until august re-opens your thread! Anyway, you've bumped this thread quite a number of times which is against the rules. You've also been given plenty of advice and requested to have this locked, so I'm closing this.
 
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