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Can I request a core based on M-Zam (standard set) and LO KyuB? I'm looking for a balanced team but if you come up with a more offensive version I'm ok too
Tyranitar @ Choice Band
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 104 HP / 252 Atk / 152 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Pursuit
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Crunch
Jirachi @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 248 HP / 64 SpD / 196 Spe
Careful Nature
- Iron Head
- Fire Punch
- Toxic
- Stealth Rock
I'm gonna go ahead and say that I didn't enjoy building this team at all, hey at least I'm honest right? I think Goodras niche is fine and all until you realize its small as hell and not exactly hard to account for as much as people like to exaggerate, getting swamped by grasses. There is so many other things I would have liked to use and will use when I replace Goodra with something much more useful. I figured however in light of recent events where the finest of Smogon players are calling the Ghostbusters as we speak, I would treat the plebs of the OU Forum to another small gift. Also screw lingering over builds for too long lol.
Could I please request a team based around Metagross and Togikiss. These are probably two of my favorite pokemon. I'd prefer a dragon as the third of the core but am unsure as to who would be best. I'm honestly too fast paced for a stall team, so something that is part HO, part Balanced is perfect.
Sets:
Metagross (Don't know if he should be the mega)
Meteor Mash
Ice Punch
Zen Headbutt
If Mega Agility // If not Bullet Punch/EQ
Requesting a build around a Desert core of -tyranitar, charizard-y and excadrill.
The desert core works with tyranitar providing support to excadrill in the worrm of sand while getting rid of counters and checks to charizard-y such as lati@s, talonflame, charizard-x ect.Mean while charizard-y offers a complete nuke to the bulky graas and ground types excadril and charizard despise as well as covering for the three's shared water weakness with intense sun. Excadril in mean while is able to outspeed many threats to both pokemon, namely mega-diance.
@ choice band
Adamant
100 Hp / 252 Atk / 156 Spe
-Stone Edge
-Crunch
-Superpower
-Pursuit
@ Life orb
Jolly
252 Atk / 252 Spe /4 Hp
-Iron head
-Rappid spin
-Rock Slide
-Earthquake
Hello HailFall long time without building around Thund-T, guess ebelt could work best because you can bluff a choice item, but that's up to you. Also i think Fire blast is a better move because you can spamed without switch in next turn due to -2 drop. With this core having a lot of offensive pressure and both walled by Chansey i decided to incorporate 2 mons to pivot around and wittled/knock off Chansey's eviolite, the first is Torn-T i decided to go with a bit more bulk because Latias lack of recovery and could be pressured a lot, and i paired with Lando-t to keep the offensive momentum as well is the mon the setup rocks. The mega of choice is MSciz to take better on Fairies as well keeping the concept of gaining offensive momentum for Volcanion, and last the glue of the team is Latias, give the team the much needed Defog support as well HW to bring back to full late game some of the others mons. Enjoy!
Wasup ! Wawawabbit prettr straigforward core, is just basically wear down each other check and sweep late game with Gatr or Serp, the team only needs a bit of support because the idea of the team is you always been in the driver sit, so i add Hippo to take care of physical threats and setting up rocks, then i added a reliable defoger on Latias, i decided go with the bulky spread and Roost over HW because you need longevity but HW is also usefull if you wanna be more offensive. As my last slot needed a pursuit trapper because Lati@s are really anoying, so Bisharp can check them. You have to play very offensively with this team to work better, Hope u like it and Enjoy.
Hi, builders! It's been a long time since a played a single game and my teambuilding skills are... well, even more sucky than usual lol. And with the rise of M-Medicham, I'd like a team built around a M-Medicham + Tornadus-T core.
Medicham @ Medichamite
Ability: Pure Power
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant / Jolly Nature
- High Jump Kick
- Thunder Punch / Bullet Punch
- Ice Punch
- Fake Out
M-Medicham being a monster is nothing new and Tornadus-T deals with faster threats such as Keldeo and Genger while bringing momentum to the game and safe switches for M-Medi with U-turn. You can change the moves, spreads and natures for the benefit of the team, as long as the final product contains both M-Medicham and Tornadus-T.
Slowking @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 212 Def / 40 SpD / 8 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Fire Blast
- Psychic
- Slack Off
Skarmory @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 248 HP / 244 SpD / 16 Spe
Careful Nature
- Iron Head
- Whirlwind
- Roost
- Spikes
Garchomp @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 240 HP / 164 Def / 104 Spe
Impish Nature
- Dragon Tail
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Stealth Rock
Clefable @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 172 Def / 84 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Thunder Wave
- Soft-Boiled
- Calm Mind
The Clef, Skarm, Chomp, Fat Water core has been strong forever pair that up with 2 other partners and you're golden. CM Clef + DDancer is really powerful stuff. You can opt to run CM Slowking on this build as well if you want but I think having Fire Blast in combination with Thunder Wave makes handling Zor a bit easier than just using Chomp. NP / Thunder Wave Thundurus is more so you're not a liability to waters and to a slight extent Serperior since Clef , Skarm, Chomp is an invitation for Serp sometimes but I didn't feel like Amoonguss was right on this build. I went with Fire Punch on M-Ttar as I don't like superpower and I don't like my M-Ttars walled by Bisharp as well. I think if you're in a position to use Ice Punch on TTar you've already did something wrong cause by then you haven't worn down the grounds well enough to make it useful. People will probably change out Chomp for Lando-T on this build which is fine although contact attackers will start to end up being a pain. Like for example if you go Lando-T > Chomp you make yourself more weak to bulky M-Zor and Band Kion comes in and clicks Stone Edge with 0 problems due to a lack of Rock Resist, an under appreciated asset in team-building these days. This is a team that should be used with long term goals in mind. I know the average person has the patience of a 3 year old but focusing on slowing stuff down with paralysis, racking up hazard damage, and knowing when to not be greedy is what will help you with this team. Enjoy.
Hi, builders! I'd like a team built around a Roserade.
Roserade @ Black Sludge
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 144 HP / 136 Def / 208 SpA / 20 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Spikes
- Giga Drain
- Sludge Bomb
- Rest
It's a decent Spike setter and a check of Keldeo and other water-types, I tried, but I get nothing good with it. You can change the moves, spreads and those things.
Sorry if I have mistakes, english is not my primary language ;_;.
Lucario @ Life Orb
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
IVs: 29 HP
- Close Combat
- Iron Tail
- Extreme Speed
- Swords Dance
M-Venu is kind of ass but I guess the Sleep Powder variant here works out ~ok. Clef is Clef idk what to really put it here as its part of your core. Shuca Volcanion so you have a fighting chance against certain matchups against grounds like Lando-T and Exca. Then I just added Lando-T for rocks, ground immunity with a standard U-Turn set to bring things in easier, 3 attacks / Defog Latios for Hazard removal for volcanion + M-Venu who will desperately need it. This last slot was a bit difficult to cover in terms of a teambuilding thought process since I knew I needed a steel but I also was in need of a more defining win condition other than Clefable, Bisharp was a pain, fat shit was slightly annoying, and offense was to. I went with SD Lucario here to provide relief amongst issues such as those. There's a handful of mons here like Latios who invites things like TTars to come in to trap it and I think it fit well in tandem with everything else. I went with Inner Focus because I don't see too much of a practical use in Justified where at least if something like Scarf Rachi wants to be cute or goon offense players want to keep clicking Fake Out with their M-Chams / Lopunny at least you can set / hit them with ESpeed respectively. The ability is sort of interchangeable on preference so anyone can change that. Enjoy.
Hi, builders! It's been a long time since a played a single game and my teambuilding skills are... well, even more sucky than usual lol. And with the rise of M-Medicham, I'd like a team built around a M-Medicham + Tornadus-T core.
Medicham @ Medichamite
Ability: Pure Power
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant / Jolly Nature
- High Jump Kick
- Thunder Punch / Bullet Punch
- Ice Punch
- Fake Out
M-Medicham being a monster is nothing new and Tornadus-T deals with faster threats such as Keldeo and Genger while bringing momentum to the game and safe switches for M-Medi with U-turn. You can change the moves, spreads and natures for the benefit of the team, as long as the final product contains both M-Medicham and Tornadus-T.
Hi, builders. I'd like a team built around Manectric and Band Staraptor. Staraptor is one of my favorite gen 4 mons and a very underated threat in the ou meta. I did build a few scarf Staraptor teams myself but I didn't manage to build a team that utilizes BAND Staraptor to its full potential. I thought a volt turn core with manectric works out pretty nicely since they cover each others weaknesses between electric type attacks and ground type attacks. Mane can also take on defensive walls Staraptor struggles with such as Skarmory and forretress, and even to an extent lando-t and chomp with hp ice. Staraptor can dish out insane amounts of damage also for Mane to clean up late game. I personally think the team should be like some HO Volt Turn kinda team. Thanks!
Manectric @ Manectite
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 Def
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Ice]
Could someone build around AM's MDiancie+Xatu core from ages ago? I kinda want to compare what you come up with to my current build to see what I could have done differently and hopefully so that I can make a new build that surpasses what I've got atm using the comparison.
Feel free to change up the sets or whatever. I've just taken the ones AM used and swapped out Air Slash for Heat Wave and Lefties for Helmet on Xatu and HP Fire for Earth Power on Diancie.
If you see this and you want something else please suggest something relatively viable. These sets are not. I was going through the cores in the OP and have been meaning to mention this.
Slowbro @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 80 Def / 176 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Psyshock
- Calm Mind
- Slack Off
Amoonguss @ Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 168 Def / 92 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 SpA / 30 Spe
- Giga Drain
- Clear Smog
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Spore
Tornadus-Therian @ Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 96 HP / 160 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Hurricane
- Superpower
- U-turn
- Knock Off
After a lot of battles I have come to the conclusion that I am not a HO style player. I like balance/bulky offence teams. So would like a team around these 3 regenerator mons. I sometimes make dumb mistakes, and this core can ensure that I don't pay too hard for them unless the mon gets 1-shot. I dont know about what mega would fit in well with this comp, so its up tp you guys. I want a bulky offence/balance team. You can change the sets if you like.
yo. i found m-medicham + the av tornadus-t variant specifically to be incredibly bad because the latter forces the majority of bulky calm mind 'mons in which m-medicham builds struggle to break past, alongside the fact that your steel slot gets worn down by spikes easily anyways. i tried a ton of variants of this core whether it was balance or bulky offense, & every single time it felt like something was missing and there were unreliable as well as inconsistent ways of dealing with fatter teams, especially considering m-medicham still requires ways of pushing past stall whilst preventing bulky wincons from doing their thing. i finally settled on a more offensive approach to the core where you can apply non-stop pressure & really tear through every playstyle with strong breakers, spikes, priority, a pivot, etc. let me just point out that i concluded on sub m-medicham which takes advantage of switches, sacks, bisharp's sucker, that ish. 4 attacks life orb tornadus-t is a bitch to switch into; nailing grounds with hp ice is really beneficial and the odd scarf / band ttar trying to revenge kill you which paves the way for bisharp nicely.
speaking of bisharp, it's an extremely solid endgame 'mon on this team due to all the support it provides in spikes easily wearing down keldeo + other common checks, m-medicham + lo tornadus-t removing or weakening everything into range. not only this, sd adamant lum enables bisharp to pressure 'mons like m-sableye, mew, rotom-w, & other random status which annoys these types of builds greatly. latios was an obvious option in the next slot thanks to its defensive typing + reliable recovery enabling it to reliably check waters & softcheck some offensive elecs, while immediately forcing out bulky grounds which is nice for the team. went with roost 3 attacks with the last slot being thunderbolt to put more pressure on fat waters as well as skarmory so you're not hazards fodder. phys. defensive landorus-t does what it always did, blanket check a large majority of the tier, set rocks to limit switches, function as a pivot to your breakers or another favourable matchup, & gradually wear down stuff into range of your priority attackers. since my main endgame in mind was cleaning with sd bisharp, i wanted a way of helping facilitate this sweep. considering the majority of players slap on keldeo + a softcheck on builds to check it, they end up being incredibly weak to bisharp + spikes. klefki is the best option here to compress roles in a (required) fairy / drag resist that isn't my main cleaner, speed control / sweeper check in case things don't go as planned, spikes which make things even harder on the opponent, & even a threatening presence with heal block to keep backbones low. team abuses a generic backbone of dragon / ground / steel to provide defensive utility in checking stuff, pretty common stuff.
there's not much else that needs to be said about a goon based offense that predominantly works on the ladder. the team is sorta bisharp weak so play offensively around that, most other threats are fairly subjective & can be beaten by playing decently. if you'd still like to see the other versions i came up with feel free to pm, but i did feel this approach to the core was optimal. you can also change any sets around to match your preference. enjoy.
yo. i found m-medicham + the av tornadus-t variant specifically to be incredibly bad because the latter forces the majority of bulky calm mind 'mons in which m-medicham builds struggle to break past, alongside the fact that your steel slot gets worn down by spikes easily anyways. i tried a ton of variants of this core whether it was balance or bulky offense, & every single time it felt like something was missing and there were unreliable as well as inconsistent ways of dealing with fatter teams, especially considering m-medicham still requires ways of pushing past stall whilst preventing bulky wincons from doing their thing. i finally settled on a more offensive approach to the core where you can apply non-stop pressure & really tear through every playstyle with strong breakers, spikes, priority, a pivot, etc. let me just point out that i concluded on sub m-medicham which takes advantage of switches, sacks, bisharp's sucker, that ish. 4 attacks life orb tornadus-t is a bitch to switch into; nailing grounds with hp ice is really beneficial and the odd scarf / band ttar trying to revenge kill you which paves the way for bisharp nicely.
speaking of bisharp, it's an extremely solid endgame 'mon on this team due to all the support it provides in spikes easily wearing down keldeo + other common checks, m-medicham + lo tornadus-t removing or weakening everything into range. not only this, sd adamant lum enables bisharp to pressure 'mons like m-sableye, mew, rotom-w, & other random status which annoys these types of builds greatly. latios was an obvious option in the next slot thanks to its defensive typing + reliable recovery enabling it to reliably check waters & softcheck some offensive elecs, while immediately forcing out bulky grounds which is nice for the team. went with roost 3 attacks with the last slot being thunderbolt to put more pressure on fat waters as well as skarmory so you're not hazards fodder. phys. defensive landorus-t does what it always did, blanket check a large majority of the tier, set rocks to limit switches, function as a pivot to your breakers or another favourable matchup, & gradually wear down stuff into range of your priority attackers. since my main endgame in mind was cleaning with sd bisharp, i wanted a way of helping facilitate this sweep. considering the majority of players slap on keldeo + a softcheck on builds to check it, they end up being incredibly weak to bisharp + spikes. klefki is the best option here to compress roles in a (required) fairy / drag resist that isn't my main cleaner, speed control / sweeper check in case things don't go as planned, spikes which make things even harder on the opponent, & even a threatening presence with heal block to keep backbones low. team abuses a generic backbone of dragon / ground / steel to provide defensive utility in checking stuff, pretty common stuff.
there's not much else that needs to be said about a goon based offense that predominantly works on the ladder. the team is sorta bisharp weak so play offensively around that, most other threats are fairly subjective & can be beaten by playing decently. if you'd still like to see the other versions i came up with feel free to pm, but i did feel this approach to the core was optimal. you can also change any sets around to match your preference. enjoy.
Damn, man! The team looks terrific! I originally posted AV Torn-T because I sincerely didn't know which set was more appropriate to pair up with M-Medi. I really appreciate your work! Ü
Heatran @ Air Balloon / Chople Berry
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Magma Storm
- Earth Power
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
"I came, I saw, I hit em right there in the jaw" - Dugtrio
Uh so if you want you can go Jolly Band Raptor for the reasons stated but I personally think going Jolly on Band Raptor is for chumps when it necessitates all the wall-breaking power it can get for Raptor to have a use in OU. I went Band Dugtrio on this build since every relatively decent check to the combination of Manectric + Raptor keels over to this set. No worrying about rolls on M-Diancie and such just click EQ and you'll be all set. The other moves are sort of just there so you're not walled by stuff and Sucker Punch can save you from what would be super crappy matchup against Kazams. I contempled Pursuit on it but felt like practically it wouldn't work out on Latis anyways. Expert Belt Keld fakes choice variants granted I guess non choice Keldeos aren't a surprise but having Taunt on it screws over a lot of fat stuffs game plans when up against defensive builds. I went Latias for Healing Wish. I don't like Latias too much and think its relatively garbage but Healing Wish is something useful for teams such as this I find. Heatran as your rocker provides you a Lati Switch in and stops Raptor from being the only decentish check to bulky grasses. It's pretty straight forward I find myself leading Manectric a lot in most matchups and trapping stuff with Dugtrio. Team is weak to Weavile so Chople Heatran is an option and the team is also weak to Lopunny so if you're a fan of having like 3 choice mons lol you can go scarf Keld. Enjoy.
Heatran @ Air Balloon / Chople Berry
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Magma Storm
- Earth Power
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
"I came, I saw, I hit em right there in the jaw" - Dugtrio
Uh so if you want you can go Jolly Band Raptor for the reasons stated but I personally think going Jolly on Band Raptor is for chumps when it necessitates all the wall-breaking power it can get for Raptor to have a use in OU. I went Band Dugtrio on this build since every relatively decent check to the combination of Manectric + Raptor keels over to this set. No worrying about rolls on M-Diancie and such just click EQ and you'll be all set. The other moves are sort of just there so you're not walled by stuff and Sucker Punch can save you from what would be super crappy matchup against Kazams. I contempled Pursuit on it but felt like practically it wouldn't work out on Latis anyways. Expert Belt Keld fakes choice variants granted I guess non choice Keldeos aren't a surprise but having Taunt on it screws over a lot of fat stuffs game plans when up against defensive builds. I went Latias for Healing Wish. I don't like Latias too much and think its relatively garbage but Healing Wish is something useful for teams such as this I find. Heatran as your rocker provides you a Lati Switch in and stops Raptor from being the only decentish check to bulky grasses. It's pretty straight forward I find myself leading Manectric a lot in most matchups and trapping stuff with Dugtrio. Team is weak to Weavile so Chople Heatran is an option and the team is also weak to Lopunny so if you're a fan of having like 3 choice mons lol you can go scarf Keld. Enjoy.
Hey guys, found this set in the Creative/Underused thread and thought it was super cool. Any kind of Offense would work, whether it be regular Offense, HO, Rain HO, ect.
Functions as a mixed wallbreaker on Offense with EV's to 2HKO Chanseys, hit an optimal life orb HP number and creep defensive landos. I've used to the set to success but I'm I'm not great at building, and would love to see how more experienced players approach this set. Feel free to mess with the coverage slots (superpower, tbolt) depending on what the team needs. Thanks!
I changed zards evs since getting revenged by scarf kyub isnt cool also since its no longer adamant i just made its attack 252, with 40 hp i guess you still got a little bulk to help counter mega sciz which otherwise runs the team over. Kept lando-t the same it does what lando does check physical attackers one change you can do with lando is take off stone edge since theres a ttar to check talonflame and give it u-turn to nab momentum or even give it toxic to help wear down fat stuff like hippo and slowbro to make the zard sweep easier. BandTar is really good atm since it just crushes most teams by clicking stone edge, for this team it helps in the stall matchup since with rocks up you can 2hko the majority of all stall teams with crunch or edge, the speed evs outpace minimum speed mandibuzz and everything slower. Clef twaves stuff for the team and is a wincon alongside zardx, twave is nice for heatran's that like to switch in and general speed control for the team making faster threats like lop less worrisome, standard evs makes you bulky on both sides of the spectrum, 15 speed iv's let you stall out ferrothorn gyro ball so you can use it as setup bait unless its twave iron head. Rachi is nice since it's and incredibly annoying mon to play around when you factor in flinch chance or just u-turning to gain momentum, ice punch lures in lando-t for zardx and healing wish lets you play a bit more reckless with zardx since you can heal it up at a later time. Latios rounds out the team giving you a keld check and defog support for zard. So this team just kinda loses to SD Bisharp unless you can play around sucker punch 8 times, main way to fix the weakness is make ttar scarf and turn rachi into a specs keldeo which hurts the stall matchup, but it also frees up zard since its no longer the only scizor check. Hope you enjoy and good luck with the team!
Hey guys, found this set in the Creative/Underused thread and thought it was super cool. Any kind of Offense would work, whether it be regular Offense, HO, Rain HO, ect.
Functions as a mixed wallbreaker on Offense with EV's to 2HKO Chanseys, hit an optimal life orb HP number and creep defensive landos. I've used to the set to success but I'm I'm not great at building, and would love to see how more experienced players approach this set. Feel free to mess with the coverage slots (superpower, tbolt) depending on what the team needs. Thanks!
Hello OverlordDerp pretty simple idea of nasty pass, however Volcanion isnt the fastest mon alive so is kinda hard to make this idea work against fast build, i add as third member another water ebelt mon just to overwhelm the resistances, so this way if you pass early game you weaken opposing team for late game Volcanion or viceversa. Was looking a bit annoy by Electric types as well hazards so Scarf Exca give the team a solid revenge killer and nice electric immunity, then i realize my whole team was grounded and only celebi my reliable sand check so Skarmory help the team with that as well as checking another threats and fairies as Scarf exca isnt a switch, also Skarm provide the always needed rocks. And last my mega slot is diancie decided to go Max attack to weaken opposing Chansey and Clef and still have power to be a recipent for a NP Pass. The team is a bit annoyed by Heatran so you have to predict correctly against it. Hope you like and Enjoy!
Volcanion @ Expert Belt
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 72 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 180 Spe
Modest Nature
- Steam Eruption
- Fire Blast
- Sludge Wave
- Toxic
Wasup ! KPJux offensive Talon isnt common at all so is so easy catch people of guard, i decided with SD + Grass so can lure Rotom-W for Scizor late game, also Knock on Zor to wittled more easily Heatran. A defoger is mandatory as talonflame lack of recovery, Latias is the bulkyer one and fuction as my Keld check, then i know you dont like Lando-T but it fits well here, because provide rocks to the team and in conjuntion with SD weaken bulky pokemon such as MVenusaur, Hippo, etc. You can use Helmet chomp with the same set if you really hate Lando-t. Next dark spam is so common nowondays specially Weav so in offense tends to run Magnezone paired with it, so Rest Talk Keld is a better answer, as well for bisharp. And last speed control in form of Kyurem-B to revenge all fastest megas such as MKazam, as well if you get rid off checks, Outrage late game is a nice cleaner. Hope you like it Enjoy.
Scizor-Mega @ Scizorite
Ability: Light Metal
EVs: 248 HP / 44 Atk / 16 Def / 200 SpD
Impish Nature
- Swords Dance
- Roost
- Bullet Punch
- Knock Off
Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 SpD
Impish Nature
- Power Whip
- Knock Off
- Leech Seed
- Stealth Rock
So this is standard sand offense, I kept ttar and excadrill the same because those sets are fine. I changed zardy to timid because modest fireblast is overkill if you do want to use modest tho then make it flamethrower so you dont miss and are still strong af. CM Lati is a water resist keldeo switch in and win con all rolled into one and fits the team nicely. Spex keldeo gives you a dark type switch in and a 3rd special nuke to overwhelm the opponents defense. Ferro rounds out the team as your rocker and knock off support which is always nice. Like i said at the start this is a pretty standard team and should work pretty well on ladder since its just a bunch of strong ass pokemon slapped together, hope you enjoy!