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Lol, I wasn't expecting anyone to actually build around that core. Like I said in my post, Abomasnow is terrible, period, and Weather ball is pretty terrible too. I'm upset I let the hype get me to write that post up. Thanks though.
ye very original team do not steal. first thing im gonna say is that i think umbreon is utterly pointless on stall because if you need stuff for wish/heal bell, you've got chansey or clefable to use, and sab is kinda the go-to dark type on stall nowadays, i really think this mon is utter dong especially on stall, you could probably get away with it when hoopa-u was still running around. the only thing that really sets it apart from the aforementioned mons is pursuit and sucker punch, the former which can help trap psychic types while the latter lets you pick off wacky dgleam zams which just blow back chansey once its eviolite is gone. it also takes on non-superpower torn-t fairly well since it actually pressures it with foul play unlike chansey which stosses onces and just gets healed on. i just went with foul play because im a cool dude.
do i even need to explain the last 5 mon choices they're all the best staples on stall, i had this version with a hot celebi set but it never worked because celebi is also dong. watch out for mega hera and lucario jesus christ those mons are broken. if you're wondering what my celebi set was, it was healblock/safeguard/seedbomb/recover lellers
Umbreon @ Leftovers
Ability: Synchronize
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 8 Def / 248 SpD
Calm Nature
- Wish
- Protect
- Foul Play
- Heal Bell
Sableye-Mega @ Sablenite
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 108 Def / 144 SpD / 4 Spe
Careful Nature
- Fake Out
- Knock Off
- Toxic
- Recover
ye very original team do not steal. first thing im gonna say is that i think umbreon is utterly pointless on stall because if you need stuff for wish/heal bell, you've got chansey or clefable to use, and sab is kinda the go-to dark type on stall nowadays, i really think this mon is utter dong especially on stall, you could probably get away with it when hoopa-u was still running around. the only thing that really sets it apart from the aforementioned mons is pursuit and sucker punch, the former which can help trap psychic types while the latter lets you pick off wacky dgleam zams which just blow back chansey once its eviolite is gone. it also takes on non-superpower torn-t fairly well since it actually pressures it with foul play unlike chansey which stosses onces and just gets healed on. i just went with foul play because im a cool dude.
do i even need to explain the last 5 mon choices they're all the best staples on stall, i had this version with a hot celebi set but it never worked because celebi is also dong. watch out for mega hera and lucario jesus christ those mons are broken. if you're wondering what my celebi set was, it was healblock/safeguard/seedbomb/recover lellers
Umbreon @ Leftovers
Ability: Synchronize
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 8 Def / 248 SpD
Calm Nature
- Wish
- Protect
- Foul Play
- Heal Bell
Sableye-Mega @ Sablenite
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 108 Def / 144 SpD / 4 Spe
Careful Nature
- Fake Out
- Knock Off
- Toxic
- Recover
Talonflame @ Leftovers
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 248 HP / 228 SpD / 32 Spe
Careful Nature
- Brave Bird
- Will-O-Wisp
- Roost
- Swords Dance
Not a whole lot to say other than every M-Garde sand team is either gonna be a crappy version of Enders XY M-Gard Sand team, something that gets demolished by every fighting type ie those kyurem-b sand teams, or just some random sand balance which is what this is more or less (probably still the first point lol). There's a lot of directions you can take a team such as this but I felt like using Reuniclus + water here and Keldeo fit for not being too Bish / Weavile weak. Talonflame helped with some speed control and threats like Serperior, Volcarona, and grasses and while I kind of dont like the SD SpDef set that much I think the immediate pressure as opposed to Bulk Ups slower long term pressure seemed more useful here. RestTalk Keld gives it some longevity. Keldeo can be annoying so just don't play like booty around it and if Slowbros annoy you Shadow Ball Reuniclus is an option over Focus Blast. That's really it enjoy.
Landorus-Therian @ Yache Berry
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 248 HP / 80 SpD / 180 Spe
Careful Nature
- Earthquake
- U-turn
- Knock Off
- Stealth Rock
I'm going to play devils advocate here and just say that Mega Beedrill + Magnezone is a god awful core, there I said it let the sheep flock and hear me, then preach it weeks later across OU forum. It's a dumb as hell core because only a moron would consider using their steel as the M-Bee answer all the time when they know some brainless Magnezone + Bee is bound to be with it, 0 element of surprise. Not only that but Magnezone just constrains the team to using itself as the steel of the team when there are SO MANY more useful things you can be using with that slot like putting in Heatran or just partners that don't consolidate weakness to stuff like grounds and sand. Specs Keldeo provides the team its wallbreaker to cushion up stuff for Bee and Weavile. SD weavile is the actual wincon of the team I' considered just running Nevermeltice but it's probably weak as hell to begin with. Latias gives Defog support and Healing Wish support, water switch, keld check, etc. SpDef Lando-T provides you a better cushion against the likes of M-Kazam without enough speed for Volcanion. I feel like what I'm saying here isnt particularly useful cause what else do you justify using Latias as your team slot for other than HW and to act like it has some real usefullness over Latios lol. Oh I went pursuit Bee cause pursuit is great and no reason not to run it. Volt-turn is fortunately brainless enough to compensate any big weaknesses this team has so enjoy.
Thanks for the build, man. What's your own opinion in fitting Reflect Type Starmie in this team? It seems it can do an equally good job at hazard removing as Latias.
Thanks for the build, man. What's your own opinion in fitting Reflect Type Starmie in this team? It seems it can do an equally good job at hazard removing as Latias.
I think Reflect Type Starmie is bad personally for a bunch of reasons. If you don't want Healing Wish and just want to go a more offensive route 3 attacks / Defog Latios is fine to, or offensive Starmie. Bee, Heatran, Keldeo, Weavile, Starmie, Lando-T is an example of a more hyper offensive take on the team. More or less you'd be sticking with Bee, Steel, Water, Dark, Keld resist which encompasses Lati / Starmie usually, and ground on a usual bee team, to me at least. So yeah Offensive / Defog Latios or Starmie would be ok for replacements advocating Reflect Type Starmie won't be coming from me I can assure you that much.
Gonna start off by saying ScarfTar works much better over BandTar here. So core of BandTar+CM Keldeo+M-Scizor was pretty clever. Added Landorus-T to provide SR support and to take on the likes of ZardX, PuP M-Lopunny, etc. Works as a nice pivot and gives the team a much needed ground resist. Talonflame since the team got fucked over by ZardY, plus, I didn't like the fact that Fire coverage fairies fucked over the team. Latios was added to deal with Volcanion, Manaphy, and Keldeo. Takes on mons that Scizor generally struggles against and also removes hazards which can be annoying.
Gonna start off by saying ScarfTar works much better over BandTar here. So core of BandTar+CM Keldeo+M-Scizor was pretty clever. Added Landorus-T to provide SR support and to take on the likes of ZardX, PuP M-Lopunny, etc. Works as a nice pivot and gives the team a much needed ground resist. Talonflame since the team got fucked over by ZardY, plus, I didn't like the fact that Fire coverage fairies fucked over the team. Latios was added to deal with Volcanion, Manaphy, and Keldeo. Takes on mons that Scizor generally struggles against and also removes hazards which can be annoying.
Gonna start off by saying ScarfTar works much better over BandTar here. So core of BandTar+CM Keldeo+M-Scizor was pretty clever. Added Landorus-T to provide SR support and to take on the likes of ZardX, PuP M-Lopunny, etc. Works as a nice pivot and gives the team a much needed ground resist. Talonflame since the team got fucked over by ZardY, plus, I didn't like the fact that Fire coverage fairies fucked over the team. Latios was added to deal with Volcanion, Manaphy, and Keldeo. Takes on mons that Scizor generally struggles against and also removes hazards which can be annoying.
Landorus-Therian @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 248 HP / 244 Def / 8 SpD / 8 Spe
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Swords Dance
- Stealth Rock
Megabro pwns so hard, the fact it can set up on most dark types(except SD weav or bish and bandtar) is insane its just so fat and its the teams main wincon. Im assuming you know what the evs do since you posted it but incase you dont 80 def+ is enough to survive +2 diggersbys return from full(lol), with the rest slapped into spdef. ScarfTar traps the elecs that really threaten slowbro like mane and kou, it can also beat thundy but you cant really switch in and have to hope you dont get full para'd, it also beats stuff like lati which can threaten bro if you have already taken damage to the point were draco would kill it. Amoongus should be your main keldeo switch in since it doesnt really mind a burn and forces a switch and lets you get a spore off as long as they dont have a grass type of their own, 96 spdef avoids the 2hko from spex icy wind from keld and the rest of the evs go into defense so you can take on azu pretty well. Keld is your main switch in to dark types like bish and weav since it does take much from them and forces them out, its also your way of revenge killing offensive sd sciz since lando-t can get worn down pretty easy throughout the match checking other shit. Lati gives hazard removal since spikes are always annoying af for dual regen teams and teams that use ttar as the main lati check, hp fire is so you dont give megasciz a free sd vs you and it also hits ferro which can be a nuisance. SD defensive lando-t rounds out the team giving you rocks a megasciz check a clef check basically a nonpassive check to most physical attackers in the tier. Overall this a pretty standard sand balance team that struggles vs stuff like mega garde since you have no switch in.
Tornadus-Therian @ Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 128 HP / 128 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hurricane
- Heat Wave
- U-turn
- Knock Off
Mega Gyara is pretty underwhelming in this metagame if im being honest it struggles to boost up vs most teams and since almost every team will have either lando-t or tankchomp so you wont be sweeping unless you have removed both of them and even then they will probably have a keldeo to stop the sweep, but gyara does absolutely crush those annoying fat teams running amuck on ladder since you can sub on sab and other passive mons like quagsire. I had to change breloom to adamant because it was just piss weak even after a sd boost without life orb to add an extra punch to your attacks, in all my times testing i never got a chance to use ng since they either didnt have a grass type or i got knocked into the berrys activation because looms piss poor defenses, without spore you have to play pretty careful when attempting to sweep but if you do get an sd vs weakened teams loom can absolutely wreck havoc. Lando-T is your main way of beating cm clef since you can just sd up and force it out or just kill it, it also switches into lop if you predict it not to ice punch. So i was looking weak to threats like weavile and megasciz when Nedor suggested scarftran and i gotta say it fits the team very well since almost nobody expects scarftran anymore for some reason, stone edge is neat for dropping talonflame and zardy. Lati does what lati always does checks keldeo, fire types, defogs nukes stuff with draco. Torn-T is your check to annoying shit like serp which can otherwise go insane vs this team, Life Orb torn is probably better on this team but since you said you wanted a BO team i went with av since it fits more of a bulky offense team better, but if you dont care to much then just switch to life orb and wreck shit with stupidly strong hurricanes and insane coverage. Hope you enjoy!
yeah I usually like to slap on a jirachi to help vs M-gardevoir, but with m-gardevoir seeming to have a decline I believe it will be ok. I really like the look of the team and I appreciate the time you took to make it. I really like the way the team looks!!! thank you
Famous in UU for being an amazing sweeper that can clear through entire unprepared teams, this thing is a monster with an amazing ability and movepool. The team will probably need checks for other fairies, Mega Venu, and other super fat mons. Slurpuff also appreciates Talonflame and Scizor gone too as those two can just use priority to revenge kill. Probably a balancish team with Slurpuff as a wincon. Hope you have fun building around this and good luck =D
ninja edit: you can choose between aroma and return, whatever fits better on the team.
Reuniclus @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 200 Def / 56 SpD
Bold Nature
- Calm Mind
- Psyshock
- Focus Blast / Shadow Ball
- Recover
Gliscor + Reuniclus is a cool stallbreaking core that can really put the hurt on some teams, with Gliscor helping Reuniclus out with some of her problems, like Steel-types and Mega Sableye, and provides a good check to bulky Water-types like Slowbro, which really helps if you run Shadow Ball. Sadly these two are a bit slow, and can be dispatched easily by wallbreakers such as Kyurem-Black, so it does need some proper support in order to succeed, but it's a really nice balanced core that I've been having trouble building around, and I really think it has a shot in this meta! Thanks in advance builders! n_n
Landorus-Therian @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 248 HP / 140 Def / 32 SpD / 88 Spe
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Knock Off
Here's an alternate spread if you want another SR user and a more offensively inclined Lando-T
Landorus-Therian @ Yache Berry / Soft Sand / Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 248 HP / 32 Atk / 92 Def / 28 SpD / 108 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Rock Polish
Charizard's spread allows it to avoid the 2HKO from Rotom-W most of the time and setup on it while still having enough speed to outspeed Adamant Excadrill, while Landorus-T spread allows him to avoid the 2HKO from Adamant M-Zard-X, take on Excadrill and has enough speed to outspeed Adamant Base 70's.
I don't really mind the build, whether it's stall, offense or balance, but if it were mandatory, I'd prefer a balance team if possible. Thanks in advance!
Famous in UU for being an amazing sweeper that can clear through entire unprepared teams, this thing is a monster with an amazing ability and movepool. The team will probably need checks for other fairies, Mega Venu, and other super fat mons. Slurpuff also appreciates Talonflame and Scizor gone too as those two can just use priority to revenge kill. Probably a balancish team with Slurpuff as a wincon. Hope you have fun building around this and good luck =D
ninja edit: you can choose between aroma and return, whatever fits better on the team.
I propose here a pretty fun core. In fact, Sharpedo is a very cool mega, and a good cleaner. He can hit a lot of mon with a stab and boost by stron jaw crunch, H-Pump is here to 2HKO physicaly defensive skarm, and it's a cool stab that hurt a lot of mon. Poison jab is finaly here to hit a lot of mon like Azumarill, Altaria-M, M-Gardevoir, Breloom, Clefable...
Celebi works well with this shark, it's a good switch in to breloom and Keldeo (without HP Bug) and it can pass a sword dance to Sharpedo, who can clean an entire team with a boost of his attk and his speed.
Thank you and have fun building !
I propose here a pretty fun core. In fact, Sharpedo is a very cool mega, and a good cleaner. He can hit a lot of mon with a stab and boost by stron jaw crunch, H-Pump is here to 2HKO physicaly defensive skarm, and it's a cool stab that hurt a lot of mon. Poison jab is finaly here to hit a lot of mon like Azumarill, Altaria-M, M-Gardevoir, Breloom, Clefable...
Celebi works well with this shark, it's a good switch in to breloom and Keldeo (without HP Bug) and it can pass a sword dance to Sharpedo, who can clean an entire team with a boost of his attk and his speed.
Thank you and have fun building !
Requesting a team with specs goodra. I've been seeing some talk about this pokemon and it seems interesting so i'd like try it out. The set is straightforward, specs boosts its spa to high levels, having draco as a strong STAB, fire blast to beat steels, sludge wave for fairies and focus blast to deal with heatran and ttar. Its niche over other offensive dragon types is pure dragon typing + higher sp bulk + sap sipper so its better to deal with the likes of amoonguss and serperior.
For reference I might combine the core above me with the one I just took earlier but if you are one of the other builders feel free to take it anyways.
Here I requested a core with Emboar and TankChomp. I listed everything there. I know that the rules say that you should not use uncompetitive Pokemon, but Emboar is definitely more viable, then say, Aurorus, Eviolite Rhydon, Ursaring, and Samurott, all of which has been requested one time or another.
Apparently there are others who submitted a core and were accepted, so why not try now. Thanks and have a good day
Victini
Ability: Victory star
Item: Life orb
Nature: naive
Moves:
V-create
Bolt strike
Energy ball
glaciate
Evs: 96 attack, 160 special attack, 252 speed
i have always wanted to try out this Pokemon. The set can be used in many different ways, being that it can lure out dragon and water types and hit them with moves like glaciate and bolt strike, but its main purpose is to destroy things with v-create. However, it needs lots of team support to get rid of checks and counters to it, due to its low speed and not amazing defenses. I would like a offensive or balanced team built around it please.
No one took my previous core, so I'll change it to something else I guess. I'd like to request a team built around mega ttar. Idc what set you use rlly as long as its mega dragon dance. i put the analysis one but feel free to change it if necessary. I'm fine with any type of team made with this.