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252+ Atk Choice Band Lickilicky Explosion vs. -2 252 HP / 252+ Def Avalugg: 463-546 (117.5 - 138.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Choice Band Lickilicky OHKO's anything that's not rock, steel, and/or ghost.
 

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Banned deucer.
Porygon-Z: 90/95 Def/Sp. Def
Magnezone: 70 Speed
Steelix: 70 Speed
E-vire: 105 Speed
Magmortar: 93 Speed
Honchkrow: 91 Speed
Octillery: 65 Speed (maybe worthwhile now w/ Water Spout??)
Shedinja: 31 HP?
Armaldo: 75 Speed
Salamence: 100 Defense
Vespiquen: 70 Speed
Scolipede: 99/79 Def/Sp. Def
Crustle: 55 Speed
Eelektross: 60 Speed
Accelgor: 85/65 Def/Sp. Def
Volcarona: 85 Attack
I might of missed some. I'm assuming forme changes don't count.
 

Arhops

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Hidden power used to be stronger.

However this is sort of a mixed bag since it promotes stall and lets Technician mons get a powerful coverage move.

So is Gen. 5 REALLY hidden power's peak?

OH LORD GEN 2 SLEEP TALK MECHANICS
 
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Hidden power used to be stronger.

However this is sort of a mixed bag since it promotes stall and lets Technician mons get a powerful coverage move.

So is Gen. 5 REALLY hidden power's peak?

Also bring back DP 70% accuracy Hypnosis.

OH LORD GEN 2 SLEEP TALK MECHANICS
Did you read the whole OP?
 
Hidden power used to be stronger.

However this is sort of a mixed bag since it promotes stall and lets Technician mons get a powerful coverage move.

So is Gen. 5 REALLY hidden power's peak?

OH LORD GEN 2 SLEEP TALK MECHANICS
Why are gen2 sleep talks better?
 
Porygon-Z: 90/95 Def/Sp. Def
Magnezone: 70 Speed
Steelix: 70 Speed
E-vire: 105 Speed
Magmortar: 93 Speed
Honchkrow: 91 Speed
Octillery: 65 Speed (maybe worthwhile now w/ Water Spout??)
Shedinja: 31 HP?
Armaldo: 75 Speed
Salamence: 100 Defense
Vespiquen: 70 Speed
Scolipede: 99/79 Def/Sp. Def
Crustle: 55 Speed
Eelektross: 60 Speed
Accelgor: 85/65 Def/Sp. Def
Volcarona: 85 Attack
I might of missed some. I'm assuming forme changes don't count.
90 Def Ninjask
 

Valmanway

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This tier would become Scope Lens deo-s
Now that I think about it, how would that work? Gen 1 crit mechanics and Scope Lens didn't exist at the same time as far as I know, so how would that even math out? Would it be like Focus Energy or something? Headaches ensue.
 
Now that I think about it, how would that work? Gen 1 crit mechanics and Scope Lens didn't exist at the same time as far as I know, so how would that even math out? Would it be like Focus Energy or something? Headaches ensue.
Scope Lens multiplies crit ratio by 2x
 
Are sleep and freeze running off of current mechanics, or BW mechanics for sleep, and RBY mechanics for freeze (lol never defrost)?

In general, it pretty much seems that all the annoying strategies from RBY, DP, and BW are back in full force.
 
Ok I am wondering about sleep also is it like the annoying rby sleep or is it the op gen 2 sleep or the god damn gen 5 sleep i don know .-.
 

Valmanway

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Are sleep and freeze running off of current mechanics, or BW mechanics for sleep, and RBY mechanics for freeze (lol never defrost)?

In general, it pretty much seems that all the annoying strategies from RBY, DP, and BW are back in full force.
Sleep mechanics from 5th gen, and freeze mechanics from 1st gen. The freeze clause would work like this: If the enemy has a Pokemon frozen and/or asleep, no other Pokemon can be put to sleep/be frozen.
So would this mean Aegislash have 110 atk/def? How would that work out? Blade Aegislash with 110 def is scary.
Yup, Aegislash-Shield has 110 Attack, so Aegislash-Blade has 110 Defense. We may have a new monster on our hands.
 
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