Wait is this official animations? I couldnt see it on serebii
And my god its soo cute, i already cant wait to have one
Anyone wanna bet on typing already? Id predict that it could be either normal/steel, steel/ghost or steel/psychic
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And my god its soo cute, i already cant wait to have one
Anyone wanna bet on typing already? Id predict that it could be either normal/steel, steel/ghost or steel/psychic
God that thing is fricking ugly. Like why?
What? I'll agree some Gen VII designs were rather simple (which isn't always a bad thing), though not 95%. Maybe the opposite of that, 5%, are more simple designs.
Yeah, if this is a new Pokemon I'd say the only way I'd accept it if it was either manmade or an Ultra Beast. The Klink family is already stretching believability, and even then they have evidence they're a result of manmade origin.
Nah, Toyko already got their mascots for the 2020 Olympics... they also look like Pokemon.
(Wonder what their stats would have been...)
It's transparent, which indeed does make it even stranger and looking like a cousin of Clippy the Microsoft Word paperclip.
The thing is I doubt GF would have told Niantic the exact amount of new Pokemon that Gen VIII was going to had. With Gen VII only introducing 85 new Pokemon and we are to assume the same/similar case will be for Gen VIII that'll put this little guy in the general area of Legendaries/Mythicals/Ultra Beasts (or Pseudo Legendary). Seems odd GF would let that info leak, so I have a feeling 891 may be a placeholder number.
Nah, it wouldn't be a Starter as they like to reveal those at the same time.
Maybe it could have been a new form, GF uses the phrase "new Pokemon" pretty liberally.
A Mythical is also possible if we're to remember Victini.
Personally I was kind of thinking maybe it was a new Eeveelution. They only need Dragon-type to have an Eeveelution for all Types that were categorized as before Gen VI's Physical-Special split (plus Fairy, though honestly Fairy probably would have been a Special Type back then). Or maybe start on the "Physical" Types and release a Normal-type Eeveelution.
But all this said, this little guy doesn't look like any of these. Seems to just be a random mon like Togepi, Marill, Snubbull, Kecleon, Munchlax, Lucario, Zoroak, Zorua, etc. were.
So did the PokeStar Studios "Pokemon". Arceus also had a "???" Form before that type was completely removed. If a placeholder they gave it a Shiny Form to assure the actual Pokemon meant for the spot would have a location for its Shiny Form. Also to prevent possible glitches if someone hacks the game and tries to load a Shiny Form of the Pokemon, instead of pulling junk data there's something actually there to show.
Which means that if its a placeholder they put a lot more thought into it. Not only that it also has a tail that looks like a piece of wire (red normally, blue for Shiny). Very weird how it's eye has a blinking animation even though it's just a floating pupil, I'm struggling to think how that even works.
Well that's what we think it was a placeholder. :P
That's something for the Discord. Aside from appearance and possible kind of 'mon (com mon, Starter, Legendary, Ultra Beast, etc.) discussing possible typing, Ability, and stats is a good way to get this thread locked until more news comes out.
I can see the cuteness factor. But now I'm also afraid of the screams of displeased fans if this is a seriously new mon. I mean, I can foresee people comparing this with Vanilite. I hope I'm wrong, but... Shudders....
But yeah, this is serious leak. Unless they have that time to make animations for placeholders....
But yeah, this is serious leak. Unless they have that time to make animations for placeholders....
Of course, considering everything happening around this little guy question is what is the tease/mistake he's talking about? About it being a new Pokemon? It seemingly being leaked? It turning into other Pokemon when caught?Serebii said:
Wait, it is boosted in Partly Cloudy weather. I know discussing type is not good, but this confirms that it is at least part Normal or Rock. Most likely Normal then, related to Ditto?So Niantic done goofed even harder and made this happen:
Transforms in to Ditto when caught with the moveset of Kecleon so no further leak on what info the actual thing has, but it's just so much more public now.
... or maybe it is really just placeholder with Normal type as placeholder type (like ??? type long time ago).
This is certainly not the first time things in Niantic got leaked, though. Frequently, people datamine the Gamemaster to know some changes that had happened, such as move BP and energy cost, Pokemon sprite and models (with formes, shiny palette, etc) and their stats and available movesets, and so on. Although they screw up big time this time.
They decide to call this a "tease". This certainly seals their fate in front of Gamefreak now, don't they?
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Most likely placeholder still.
And to the whole it being a deliberate tease and not a leak for real, it's a somewhat smart move since leaks always get a lot more hype and stuff with the more diehard fans. It's just a very odd move that they would decide to do it with this particular new mon and in Pokemon GO of all places and leave it filled with Kecleon's data as filler. Did they expect to get datamined for its animations and shiny sprite to be revealed as well? I'm not really buying it.
Yeah, echoing Kalalokki, I'd guess the weather boost is coming from being shoved in Kecleon's slot. I don't think Chrales (pogo network traffic miner) found anything other than the model and animations, so no name or type info.
That is what makes me skeptical of claims that it's intentional. Sticking it in Keckleon's slot for a surprise release instead of implementing it properly with some data scrubbed seems pretty hacky and like something TPC wouldn't normally ok due to risk of unintended behavior (e.g., showing the type of the overwritten mon). At least the original upload of assets in Keckleon's place seems like a mistake. I can believe the widespread release was urgent damage control that didn't give them time to properly implement the mon, seeing as how it's hard for me to imagine how even Niantic could have screwed up so badly they accidentally mass released the mon (and have it turn into ditto instead of just crashing the game).
Honestly the situation is pretty clear to me. It went something like this:
1) Preliminary data (the model) for the potentially intended release / tease of the Pokemon is put in PLGO code
2) The Spoofers datamines said data
3) More people start to datamine to uncover everything of this new Pokemon
4) They just let everyone catch the mon to create hype and pretend it's intentional
Basically, they fucked up, fucked up big, and come up with a emergency plan by releasing it everywhere leaving it with the unfinished data and it transforming into Ditto once caught.
I would say they fell on their feet. They still fucked up badly by letting it get datamined, but the emergency plan isn't terrible.
As I said, B+ for trying :)
Fair point, and one I hadn’t considered, but if this is supposed to be the “All New Never-before Seen Pokemon” mentioned in the Let’s Go stuff, then it is still possible they were told what dex number as they would need to write that stuff up for Go. Perhaps Pokedex and ID numbers are the same for Go?
Either way, it’s still as good a guess as any with the available data.
Not quite. Spoofers have nothing to do with this. There's basically one guy, Chrales, who mines stuff from the network traffic and decrypts it (he spoiled a lot of shiny releases because for a while niantic would just upload them shortly before release), he's the one who found mysterymon the other day and posted the image on Twitter (then later held a twitch stream to show the animations and model assets). For some reason the mon was uploaded in place of Kecleon, so nothing but the regular and shiny model, animations, and a potential pokedex or index number are known.
Point 4 seems more or less the case tho. :p
The more and more i think about it it seems intentional.
1) Suddenly the mon spawning got fixed then a few hours laters it appears again but all over europe? Why didnt they prevent it from spawning anywhere and pretend nothing happened
2) Also the real headscratcher, it always transforms to DITTO, out of all pokemon, ditto?? Shouldnt it turn to kecleon since its in its place? Or the game shows nothing caught or crashes? Dittos dex number isnt even close to 808 or 891
Whether it was intentional or not, they did a pretty good job at getting everyone talking about it, feels like witnessing discovery of a new pokemon irl lol
1) Suddenly the mon spawning got fixed then a few hours laters it appears again but all over europe? Why didnt they prevent it from spawning anywhere and pretend nothing happened
2) Also the real headscratcher, it always transforms to DITTO, out of all pokemon, ditto?? Shouldnt it turn to kecleon since its in its place? Or the game shows nothing caught or crashes? Dittos dex number isnt even close to 808 or 891
Whether it was intentional or not, they did a pretty good job at getting everyone talking about it, feels like witnessing discovery of a new pokemon irl lol
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Hmm, well if it was a leak looks like they're now just going with it by having it suddenly appear in certain regions. However I think originally it was a leak. From memory, GF never released a new Pokemon without giving us some additional stuff or "hyping" up the mystery. It just "showing up" I don't feel would would be the only thing done, I would at very least think the Team Captains and/or Professor Willow would have been given something to say.
But now that it's known might as well make the best of a bad situation... which I like. GF always pretended we didn't know about the Mythicals until they were ready to show them (which I both get as it would be a pain to add it fully in later, though at the same time maybe have someplace in the game which at least alludes to it...).
As I said, that would still unintentionally reveal there's at least 84 other Pokemon.
"So? It just confirms there's at least 85 new Pokemon".
True, but dex placement is actually more telling than most think. Like if 891 is its number, that means in the next games this little guy is a late game mon or at least starts appearing in the later half of the game... unless it's a special Pokemon which sometimes is usually placed later in the dex. And with newer games releasing less Pokemon that number would place it around the Legends/Mythics/Ultra Beasts. Now let me ask you, does this little guy look like a fully made Legends/Mythics/Ultra Beast? No, it looks like a basic stage. So does that mean we're getting either a Cosmog or Poipole situation here? Could this just be a "basic form" and it can change into other things? If Gen VIII is going to introduce more Pokemon than the past two games this could also turn out to be the basic stage of the pseudo Legendary (Dragonite, Tyranitar, Salamence, Metagross, Garchomp, Hydreigon, Goodra, Kommo-o). Also if its a Mythical I don't think they would place it that late if its an early reveal. The last Mythical that had such an early reveal was Victini and it was placed as the first Pokemon in the Unova Dex and first Unova Pokemon in National Dex order.
Now I'll grant you this, 891 is an odd number. Why not 900? Why not 890? That's honestly the best argument for it being its dex number... then again, they could have just tried to hide it someplace they'll remember it but not someplace a person would usually look (obviously that didn't work). OR, another possibility, there is 85 new Pokemon so place it at 891... BUT it's not #891 but rather just holding that space as a marker to the development team (and also not to reveal its actual dex number thus where in the game it'll actually likely be appearing at).
Hmm, well if it was a leak looks like they're now just going with it by having it suddenly appear in certain regions. However I think originally it was a leak. From memory, GF never released a new Pokemon without giving us some additional stuff or "hyping" up the mystery. It just "showing up" I don't feel would would be the only thing done, I would at very least think the Team Captains and/or Professor Willow would have been given something to say.
But now that it's known might as well make the best of a bad situation... which I like. GF always pretended we didn't know about the Mythicals until they were ready to show them (which I both get as it would be a pain to add it fully in later, though at the same time maybe have someplace in the game which at least alludes to it...).
As I said, that would still unintentionally reveal there's at least 84 other Pokemon.
"So? It just confirms there's at least 85 new Pokemon".
True, but dex placement is actually more telling than most think. Like if 891 is its number, that means in the next games this little guy is a late game mon or at least starts appearing in the later half of the game... unless it's a special Pokemon which sometimes is usually placed later in the dex. And with newer games releasing less Pokemon that number would place it around the Legends/Mythics/Ultra Beasts. Now let me ask you, does this little guy look like a fully made Legends/Mythics/Ultra Beast? No, it looks like a basic stage. So does that mean we're getting either a Cosmog or Poipole situation here? Could this just be a "basic form" and it can change into other things? If Gen VIII is going to introduce more Pokemon than the past two games this could also turn out to be the basic stage of the pseudo Legendary (Dragonite, Tyranitar, Salamence, Metagross, Garchomp, Hydreigon, Goodra, Kommo-o). Also if its a Mythical I don't think they would place it that late if its an early reveal. The last Mythical that had such an early reveal was Victini and it was placed as the first Pokemon in the Unova Dex and first Unova Pokemon in National Dex order.
Now I'll grant you this, 891 is an odd number. Why not 900? Why not 890? That's honestly the best argument for it being its dex number... then again, they could have just tried to hide it someplace they'll remember it but not someplace a person would usually look (obviously that didn't work). OR, another possibility, there is 85 new Pokemon so place it at 891... BUT it's not #891 but rather just holding that space as a marker to the development team (and also not to reveal its actual dex number thus where in the game it'll actually likely be appearing at).
Even though I'm not particularly thrilled by the design, I'm pretty sure it's not a placeholder. It simply looks way too elaborate. A placeholder would look more like a big spinning question mark and have no animation beyond spinning a little faster, or in a reverse direction, if animation was triggered.
As for what it could be... I'm getting Ralts vibes from it. It might be my love and bias for three-stage evolution families, but I could totally see this being the baby form of something significant in Gen 8. Possibly pseudo-legendary. I don't think it has anything to do with Ditto, since that huge nut introduces a significant design element completely out of left field.
As for what it could be... I'm getting Ralts vibes from it. It might be my love and bias for three-stage evolution families, but I could totally see this being the baby form of something significant in Gen 8. Possibly pseudo-legendary. I don't think it has anything to do with Ditto, since that huge nut introduces a significant design element completely out of left field.
Booted up my PoGo and found two of them immediately outside my house.
"Shit, my dudes! I've been spotted!"
It's so fucking cute, omg.
Either way, this seems more and more sided to not so accidental. This looks so detailed now for what we would think just a placeholder, just like that plush tag on a Nuikoguma (
Anyway, have we talked about other videos? I hope I'm not derailing this Nutto topic, but....
From the last videos, I'm digging the GO Park, being a moderately avid GO player myself.
The Play Park, I want to know how this will work, since it is actually difficult to get 25 mon of same species, given only Kanto mon are allowed, unless one goes just with those rats. I'm digging this since the only mon I have in GO that amounts to 25+ is Vaporeon, and I'm willing to give them to my future LGE. This looks like promising farming method for candies to me, unless winning this minigame instantly catches those 25 mon into one's box and removes them from GO Park.
Looking at the animations played by the mons in GO Park, it seems like they include the Amie/Refresh animations to LGPE too. Wondering what can you do in GO Park other than catching them to your own box....
As Alolan formes are allowed, yes... I'd definitely think of preset team if I really go for this game:
Starter Eevee, Vaporeon, AloRaichu, AloDugtrio, AloNinetails/Articuno, something else
(Preferably dual type, type not shared with others. Maybe MegaVenusaur?)
I got to admit this is gourgeous (sorry for small size, preview should be in that video on this thread's page 21).
Is that the night's moon? The ice pillar makes it like the best icy place I know in Pokemon.
(Then again I have a lot of birbs to send from GO)
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The Poke Ball Plus makes some nice classic Gen 1 sound effects in battle according to Nintendo's EGX showing. The Let's Go part starts about 3 hours in and it's basically just the E3 gameplay, same routing and everything. These guys talk a lot more about the gameplay though, some of the discussion includes Pikachu/the starter not needing to be in the party and demo wilds maybe being different than final. Not much else to say.
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Which is a massive relief to me.
This being the case, I'll go with a Party of Venusaur/Charizard/Blastoise/Pidgeot/Fearow/Arbok/Nidoqueen/Nidoking/Golduck/Dodrio/Onix/Marowak/Rhydon/Magmar/Lapras/Aerodactyl/Dragonite.
... ok, I won't go with such a huge rotation, but I'm going to use most of them. Of course, it depends on exclusives and the such.
