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We need to recalc Noivern's bases and update the OP. There's no way he's running that special attack with no EVs (Screenshotter confirmed no EVs) if he has 90 base.

There would have to be EVs since it's been in battles unless it was raised by EXP share and that doesn't transfer EVs anymore. Maybe the screenshotter thought EVs only came from Super Training or something.

Or, you know, they just used a Rare Candy, since there's only a single level difference between the Noibat and Noivern.

Even if it did gain EVs, the amount gained in one level difference from 57 to 58 won't be enough to significantly affect the stats, I'd imagine.

We'd have to know what was battled to get it there. It gained over 15,000 EXP in between those pictures so it's hard to tell without knowing what level the things were it was battling.

Meaning it does NOT explain where the stats magically came from if it was 90 base

Also, assuming it's the same as past gens, the Noibat would only have had to battle one or two of them anyway.

...Unless he used vitamins on his Noivern, of course.

Here is a picture of my frogadier's stats at level 17. I super trained it to have 252 evs in SPecial attack and speed. It is a bashful nature. Hopefully that can help with stat calculations

Here is a picture of my frogadier's stats at level 17. I super trained it to have 252 evs in SPecial attack and speed. It is a bashful nature. Hopefully that can help with stat calculations

How sure are you about the EVs considering it's Super Training, and what is Super Training like,

also any clue about the other 4 EVs?

One point in a single stat isn't going to help much with the uncertainty, compared to a range of ~19 per stat from the unknown IVs and low level.

Also, I'm getting a slightly wider range of 46-64/49-67/43-61/74-92/55-73/94-112.

For example, Speed BST 112 + theoretical IV 0 + EV 252 at level 17 = (112*2+252/4)*.17 + 5 = 287*.17 + 5 = 53.79 -> 53.

I suggest people check out the BST calculator I posted a few pages back; I added an automatic calculation that turns a range of possible (2*BS + IV) totals into a range of possible Base Stats given completely unknown IVs.

Also, I'm getting a slightly wider range of 46-64/49-67/43-61/74-92/55-73/94-112.

For example, Speed BST 112 + theoretical IV 0 + EV 252 at level 17 = (112*2+252/4)*.17 + 5 = 287*.17 + 5 = 53.79 -> 53.

I suggest people check out the BST calculator I posted a few pages back; I added an automatic calculation that turns a range of possible (2*BS + IV) totals into a range of possible Base Stats given completely unknown IVs.

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No problem, it took me probably ten tries before I got the calculator to get the (2*BS+IV) ranges exactly right, and even then getting a full range with unknown IVs isn't that intuitive.

If there aren't already people doing it before I get the game on Saturday, I'm going to probably catch/breed multiple copies of some of the new Pokémon (particularly Dedenne, I'd love to know if that ~445 average I calculated is correct) to get rid of some of the uncertainty in the IV's. It's a total shame that the IV system means that we'll have ranges of at least 16 possible values regardless of level, if we're only basing it off of one Pokémon.

If there aren't already people doing it before I get the game on Saturday, I'm going to probably catch/breed multiple copies of some of the new Pokémon (particularly Dedenne, I'd love to know if that ~445 average I calculated is correct) to get rid of some of the uncertainty in the IV's. It's a total shame that the IV system means that we'll have ranges of at least 16 possible values regardless of level, if we're only basing it off of one Pokémon.

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