Pokemon Black and White (SPECULATIONS ALLOWED HERE)

[megamonk4]

I forgot about the octopus and its evo that have yet to be numbered so that leaves 12 to be revealed.

Did I miss any others we know about??

There was also talk about an alien pokemon and evo(both psychic types) and a vulture pokemon and evo(both dark types). An Anteater(Fire Type), and something else that brought the number down... Did you include the swana pre-evo?

edit: the non-evo dragon was another, still thinking of what else was said to be in the pokedex. Oh last pokemon to bring it down to four(left) is the non-evo ice type.

 

[BloodGod22]

Also dont forget the Bug/Fire pokemon and its pre-evo.

 

[TsengHyena]

The vulture interests me.

 

[megamonk4]

Also dont forget the Bug/Fire pokemon and its pre-evo.

ack, XD! that was the pokemon I was missing. And plus, I didn't realize he already said the standalone ice and dragon pokemon. Only 4 pokemon to go...

I'm guessing another water type(possibly with evo) and something else completely random for the last 4 pokemon.

 

[DFang]

There was also talk about an alien pokemon and evo(both psychic types) and a vulture pokemon and evo(both dark types). An Anteater(Fire Type), and something else that brought the number down... Did you include the swana pre-evo?

edit: the non-evo dragon was another, still thinking of what else was said to be in the pokedex. Oh last pokemon to bring it down to four(left) is the non-evo ice type.

Thanks! I remembered the swana prevo and the bug/fire (these 2 are rumored to fall between the pseudo-legend and the legends), but my numbers did not include the aliens, vultures and anteater!! so that brings the number down further to 7!!

I wish Melkor would update twitter again already. It's been 8 hours since the lamprey reveal!!

 

[megamonk4]

Thanks! I remembered the swana prevo and the bug/fire (these 2 are rumored to fall between the pseudo-legend and the legends), but my numbers did not include he aliens, vultures and anteater!! so that brings the number down further to 7!!

okay, the number is still lower though, xD. It's definitely 4 for right now...

Did you remember the Wargle pre-evo? And the blue octopus with evo?

 

[lordkira]

Not official but there was some details in these rumours regarding that

hmm that's odd
i didn't think they would use the bt format
thought they would follow the random match format from PBR

 

[megamonk4]

hmm that's odd
i didn't think they would use the bt format
thought they would follow the random match format from PBR

Oh gosh, I hope not. I prefer to play with a full team, and I wouldn't like to be attacked by nothing but ubers all the time. Even though it is funny when own them anyways.

Only thing that sucks is that there's no control to evasion clause, and the lack of sleep clause will be crazy for any pokemon using spore.

 

[Katakiri]

I can already tell Sarcophagiest (Desukan) is gonna be OU as long as it's defenses are at least comparable to Rotom-A's. Mummy just sounds too good to not be OU. Mummy sound like Scizor's worst nightmare.

If Sarcophagiest becomes too over-used though I could imagine people using Regigigas and Slaking just hoping one comes along so they can remove their abilities.

But that would just be silly.

 

[DFang]

okay, the number is still lower though, xD. It's definitely 4 for right now...

Did you remember the Wargle pre-evo? And the blue octopus with evo?

I did not have the wargle prevo! Here is what I have:

Kibago line (3)
Wargle line (2)
Fire/Ghost line (3)
Octopus line (2)
Vulture line (2)
Alien line (2)
Polar bear line (2)
Steel/Dark
Ground/Elec
Ice
Dragon
Fire anteater

I originally group the hydra (3) and bug/fire line (2) with the legends, but I guess they belong here instead. So that means 112 revealed in order, 12 legends and these 26 waiting to be put in order. Total is 150 leaving 6 more to be revealed??

 

[megamonk4]

alien must be coming next.

EDIT: @ DFang: Oh you're missing the Steel/Dark's and the Ground/Elec's evo.

 

[DFang]

alien must be coming next.

yep, just got tweeted by Melkor!

 

[DDRMaster]

I can already tell Sarcophagiest (Desukan) is gonna be OU as long as it's defenses are at least comparable to Rotom-A's. Mummy just sounds too good to not be OU. Mummy sound like Scizor's worst nightmare.

If Sarcophagiest becomes too over-used though I could imagine people using Regigigas and Slaking just hoping one comes along so they can remove their abilities.

But that would just be silly.

I don't think it will be a huge problem for Scizor since it will be spamming U-turn most of the time and Mummy should wear off if it switches. I'd imagine the possibility of getting hit with Will-O-Wisp would keep it at bay more often. Will-O-Wisp would also deter Slaking and Regigigas from coming in trying to get Mummy as well.

Edit: Anyone else think that alien silloette looks a lot like Baltoy with a hat? It'll still probably be pretty cool, though.

 

[Dan Dan]

in b4 Jirachi prevo

 

[Seriin]

Mummy sound like Scizor's worst nightmare.

Maybe the rare set-up Scizor, but the standard CB Scizor is a hit-and-runner and so a switch in ability really doesn't affect it that much.

EDIT: Ninja'd, so I'll add that Mummy would affect Machamp and Agiligross more than Scizor, however pure ghost doesn't have the same stopping power that Elec/Ghost with Levitate has.

 

[megamonk4]

I don't think it will be a huge problem for Scizor since it will be spamming U-turn most of the time and Mummy should wear off if it switches. I'd imagine the possibility of getting hit with Will-O-Wisp would keep it at bay more often. Will-O-Wisp would also deter Slaking and Regigigas from coming in trying to get Mummy as well.

Edit: Anyone else think that alien silloette looks a lot like Baltoy with a hat? It'll still probably be pretty cool, though.

I think that the alien design is suppose to mimic that of a UFO(a really weird one at that, lol). That's probaly the reason why it's in a shape of a top, xD.

 

[DDRMaster]

I just thought of a possible strategy. Switch Umbreon in on Desukan, use Mean Look (hopefully it doesn't switch) and possibly Yawn, hit it with an attack to get Mummy, and Baton Pass Mean Look and Mummy to Slaking or Regigigas. :naughty:

Edit:@megamonk4: I guess that makes sense. And it's just a silloette after all so it could look nothing like Baltoy.

 

[megamonk4]

I'm now thinking that the silhouette may be the candle(fire/ghost) pokemon, XD. It could go either way, XD. The hat could be what prevents the flame from going out.

 

[Mario With Lasers]

I'm excited for the people nuzlocking it.

Hopefully Mario with Lasers doesn't completely spoil himself~

Melkor kinda isn't helping me with all his leaking, you see >__>

But I'm still working on streaming it. I'm just not sure I will, or how many people would watch it if I posted the link here, on Serebiiforums and lol /vp/.

in b4 Jirachi prevo

It's a mix of Jirachi, Hitmontop and Baltoy.


THE HORROR

 

[Heartgold]

I just thought of a possible strategy. Switch Umbreon in on Desukan, use Mean Look (hopefully it doesn't switch) and possibly Yawn, hit it with an attack to get Mummy, and Baton Pass Mean Look and Mummy to Slaking or Regigigas. :naughty:

Since when has baton pass passed on abilities? hmm

 

[Frost Nocturne]

Apparently there's a Global Link Giveaway Poll for Black and White games from September 18th to November first where you can vote on one Pokemon to transfer from the Dream World. You can choose between all past starters and all 600+ Legendaries, including Arceus. I hope this is a sign all these Pokemon will get new abilities, especially the Pressure Legendaries! :D
Check it out on Serebii or Pokejungle

Edit: Ninja'd by Mario with Lasers

 

[pux]

For all we know, Mummy could be passable. However I kind of doubt it... it will probably only be transferrable through physical move.

 

[DDRMaster]

VOTE ON DEOXYS, YOU BITCHES

I mean, those who find out where the HELL is the poll on the official site.

Why not Arceus so we can actually get an EV trainable one in-game without hacking.

Since when has baton pass passed on abilities? hmm

Well you can Baton Pass Gastro Acid which negates your ability and Mummy sort of does the same thing. Odds are, it won't be able to be Baton Passed but I thought it would be a cool idea.

 

[lordkira]

Oh gosh, I hope not. I prefer to play with a full team, and I wouldn't like to be attacked by nothing but ubers all the time. Even though it is funny when own them anyways.

Only thing that sucks is that there's no control to evasion clause, and the lack of sleep clause will be crazy for any pokemon using spore.

iono most players are, let's face it, kids who are their biggest customers and majority of them just love using the legendaries (often times ubers in smogon's standards). --> shown by PBR players who are usually kids without knowledge of ivs/evs/natures etc that sport a team full of ubers or legendaries to be correct

I want arceus (vote on him)
maybe we will be able to ev train it then

 

[Heartgold]

If It's BT rules, legendaries like Jirachi, celebi won't be allowed. Obviously big guns like mewtwo not allowed so that's cool, but lati@s, chomp and mence i can handle.

I read somewhere that sleep clause would be included, i have no idea where its from now. =/