Well, if they changed the stats, I believe the base stat total is going to remain the same (600..or at least hoping it well). I don't know what they're up to XD..but I think it's gonna have decent Sp.Atk/Spe...hopefully good and not too powerful for OU.
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Pokemon Platinum - The definitive thread.
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Is the "F" for "fail"?
This whole Regigigas thing seems kind of odd. In DP, you need the three Regis to unlock Regigigas.
But so far it seems that in Platinum you may need the special movie Regigigas to unlock the other Regis. Who you then need to unlock the in-game Gigas?
It seems like an unnecessarily roundabout way of doing things.
focl.. no it's not fail it's flying XD.. what else would I name it Shaymin S (sky)..?
And I hope you don't have to have the even Gigas for the regis, and I don't think you'll trade/download the movie Gigas to catch the regis then Gigas again..
Shaymin S.. for Shaymin sucks? XD
I heard about sky form Shaymin's level-up moves being leaked, but I haven't been able to find it anywhere. I think its just BS, but has anyone else heard anything about that?
No... not at all.
Man, I really hope Sky form Shaymin not be too good for OU, but an improvement over the normal Shaymin (Land form?).
Also that screenshot with the Torn World trips me out... I'm not used to being able to walk SIDEWAYS on a pokemon game lol. I'm hoping the controls don't mess me up... Mario Galaxy was simple, but this... I'm not so sure.
Man, I really hope Sky form Shaymin not be too good for OU, but an improvement over the normal Shaymin (Land form?).
Also that screenshot with the Torn World trips me out... I'm not used to being able to walk SIDEWAYS on a pokemon game lol. I'm hoping the controls don't mess me up... Mario Galaxy was simple, but this... I'm not so sure.
That page I've posted here says that you DO need the Movie Regigigas to get the Regis.
And the fact that both Shaymin and Giratina got flying forms makes me wonder why haven't they announced Regigigas' flying form yet. Maybe next month? First Giratina, then Shaymin and finally Regigigas...
And the fact that both Shaymin and Giratina got flying forms makes me wonder why haven't they announced Regigigas' flying form yet. Maybe next month? First Giratina, then Shaymin and finally Regigigas...
DAMNIT
Looks like the Regis don't have an overworld sprite. It doesn't seem like much, but Spiritomb didn't have one either, and at least with me, Synchronize doesn't work for it :/
I know Platinum might be different and those... TOTEMS... might be their overworld sprites, but still, I'm afraid now. No Synchro is just too sucky...
That video could have shown any of the Regis using Slack Off, by the way.
Looks like the Regis don't have an overworld sprite. It doesn't seem like much, but Spiritomb didn't have one either, and at least with me, Synchronize doesn't work for it :/
I know Platinum might be different and those... TOTEMS... might be their overworld sprites, but still, I'm afraid now. No Synchro is just too sucky...
That video could have shown any of the Regis using Slack Off, by the way.
You're missing something: You can't use Land form Shaymin in Platinum, nor can you use Another form Giratina. You can only use Sky and Origin in Platinum.
Here's why.
If there was a "new" Regigigas, it would have to work the same way, because when you trade or battle with Diamond or Pearl it needs to read the location data for the Pokemon in the game's code. Shaymin and Giratina aren't "adding" new slots, they're "overwriting" the old ones. If there was a new Regigigas in Platinum at the same time as the old Regigigas, it wouldn't matter! Why? What use is a new Pokemon that can't interact with any other version? You could never battle or trade with anyone using Diamond, Pearl or PBR...
In conclusion, since we've clearly seen Regigigas in Platinum has the same sprite, we can conclude that it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE for there to be a new form.
That is NOT to say that he couldn't get new attacks or what have you, however!
Historically, all the "Third version" games have always added new moves for the Pokemon to learn, in some way. You should expect the same to hold true for Platinum. While there might not be many changes to the level up moves of non-legendary pokemon (though you can expect Giratina and Shaymin to get some new ones), they might add more move tutors.
Personally, I like new level-up moves. That's why I always liked Leaf Green way better than Emerald. Tutor moves are fine, but I hate how hard it is to get points for them, or how you otherwise only get one use out of them.
Where did you notice this? I find this interesting.
I didn't really notice Regigigas doing anything when it came out against Regirock...
EDIT: OH SNAP!! You're right. Wow, cool.
Look in the second video when it is sent out against the regis.
Why wouldn't Origin Giratina be Uber, "Another Form" Giratina already is. Why would it Lose 80 BST going to its original home?
I will lol so hard if Sky Shamin gets Aeroblast.
Specs Shaymin with Seed Flare/Aeroblast/HP Ice/Psychic for the win.
Awww...they changed Registeel's sprite...:p
As much as I hate useless speculation, I wouldn't be surprised if Skymin ended up getting Aeroblast. What other Flying moves would really be viable? Drill Peck?
Brave Bird for a SD set! And Air Slash.
It hurts to know you're right. BUT, there's still a chance Regigigas will be getting a new form like Deoxys in D/P, with some special place to change its form...
But I'll be happy enough if it at least gets Swords Dance.
It hurts to know you're right. BUT, there's still a chance Regigigas will be getting a new form like Deoxys in D/P, with some special place to change its form...
But I'll be happy enough if it at least gets Swords Dance.
For some part, I can agree with you. However, you have made one crucial mistake; while it HAS been revealed that Shaymin will change forms between the games, Origin Forme has not been proven to be the "permanent" form for Platinum.
This could mean that there is a way to change Giratina's forme from Another to Origin and back with the ease it is to change Deoxys's formes in D/P. As quoted:
Bulbapedia said:
While this is not definitive proof, it is also not the opposite. Giratina and possibly Regigigas might have the ability to change between Origin/Another and Normal/Sky formes, the latter given that Sky forme exists.
Besides, to the best of my knowledge, it was possible that Attack forme Deoxys on FireRed could link-battle between Defense forme Deoxys on LeafGreen, was it not? That clearly contradicts part of the first statement.
To part with the subject for a bit, I think that the "computer room" Lucas is standing in in one of the pictures is actually the record room for the "New Battle Frontier" or whatever they want to call it. Aside from that, it uses warp panels like in Team Galactic HQ, so that might be a sign.
The reason Attack Deoxys and, say, Normal Deoxys could fight each other over a link was because they were using the same location data with different stats.
Deoxys in Diamond and Pearl has 4 locations programmed: Normal, Attack, Defense, Speed. They are counted as 4 completely separate Pokemon, as in each has it's own movepool, STATS, ability, type, egg data, height, weight, etc.
Castform's different forms don't have separate entries, he just has 4 sprites and a few bits of data that tell the game to change his type accordingly. This is because the only thing that varies by form is Type.
Wormadame's three forms each have different entries in the game, because each has different STATS.
So, Wormadame and Deoxys are alike, in that regard.
SHAYMIN and GIRATINA have only ONE LOCATION EACH in Diamond and Pearl.
The reason Bulbapedia is INCORRECT is because the programmers have NOT YET done any coding that could lead us to believe it is possible to have:
*2 forms of one Pokemon, who
*Have different stats
Yes, it is possible they could code some kind of elaborate workaround, however, it is extremely unlikely. Mark my words, Giratina and (100% PROVEN) Shaymin will act like Deoxys in Advance in that you CANNOT use Land or Another form in Platinum at all. They will use the same location data that the old Giratina and Shaymin will use. They've done this in the past, we know they can and have done it this way in the past. We have no evidence to support that they are going to drastically alter a fundamental piece of the game's structural code JUST so you can use Another form Giratina in Platinum.
New locations cannot just be "added," they are planned from the beginning or they do not exist. Besides the fact that the number of locations in the Pokemon data is a "nice" number already (probably a hex number), if they add new locations, they cannot allow Platinum to battle or trade with Diamond or Pearl at all, for fear of hackers crashing the game when sending out NONEXISTANT (to DP) Pokemon. If you tried to send out a "new" location Pokemon in a battle, for instance, you would see MissingNo or a Bad Egg or something similar, and the game might crash.
Oh, and some form of Regigigas that HAS NO PROOF OF EXISTANCE. Do you know why people thought there'd be a Sky Regigigas? Do you know where this "rumor" came from? People who blindly believe anything they're told (so long as it's what they want) without ever checking sources, or checking that the info they're getting is correct.
For the last time. There is no proof on any Japanese site, not even a mention on a blog someplace, of a new form of Regigigas. It's fabrication is purely of the misinformed English-speaking fan community. It's as real as a fanfic.
If you doubt anything I tell you, go do some research on the game's Pokemon location data; go look up how MissingNo works, and why he even shows up in the first place.
It's probable that Platinum will be compatible with all the games released prior to it that could communicate with Diamond and Pearl (ie. Ranger, Ranch, Battle Revolution). My guess is that Giratina and Shaymin will simply show up as their Another and Land formes respectively (there is NO data for other formes in PBR), most likely with the stats for that forme. To the best of my knowledge, it is not possible to patch the game to incorporate the new formes.
It's also highly likely that we'll see a new "Wii battling game" some time after the release of Platinum. PBR was very shoddy, so hopefully if another Wii game is released, it will be much better (PBR still even used N64 models for some Pokémon).
It's also highly likely that we'll see a new "Wii battling game" some time after the release of Platinum. PBR was very shoddy, so hopefully if another Wii game is released, it will be much better (PBR still even used N64 models for some Pokémon).
Pretty sad. I thought they would do more to the battling system on PBR. Like instead of a blast hitting and the fall backwards on all the same attacks including physical. The hyper beam thing was an improvement and I loved it when I used judgment with Arceus. "Judgment has been dealt". But they needed to make it an actual revolution to the main nintendo consoles. Like I don't know make the moves seem more realistic like the pokemon is actually doing a fire punch. Make the graphics a tad bit better and some new models as well.
It would be bad ass to see Origin Giritina in that type of game.....
They should really just do cel-shaded 3D graphics and make it look like the anime. I know, people hate the anime. But for a game like that it would be the best course IMO.
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