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Pokemon Platinum - The definitive thread.
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It was like this for Deoxys. I don't see why it wouldn't for Sheimi [and Giratina].
What iruchii said. Who cares if the pokémon doesn't look like it could throw certain move, if it learns it somehow, it WILL use it.
Do I need to mention Wooper again? ;[
Thanks to Serene Grace, even Blissey's gonna have one hell of a time countering Shaymin.
Given that the set runs 120 base Sp Atk, which seems most logical, a Timid one with Choice Specs runs 508 Sp Atk. After a Sp Def drop on a switch in, Seed Flare can do anywhere from 635 - 759 (88.9 - 106.3%) damage to a Max HP/4 Sp Def Blissey; enough to 2HKO. Even those things that are resistant when switching in find themselves face-to-face with an essentially non-resistant, powerful attack on the next turn.
What this boils down to is that any Shaymin counter will have to be resistant to Grass, preferably x4, and must be wary of Air Slash coming at any time as well. If this thing has enough speed to outspeed Scarftran, things might turn ugly for your opponent really quickly.
And to a typical Heatran, the same Shaymin can do anywhere from 198 - 233 (59.5-70.0%) damage over 2 Seed Flares (Including Sp Def drop), which means switching in with anything less than 2/3 of your health means death. Of course, Shaymin will only get in the second Flare in if it outspeeds you, which we won't find out until the actual stats are released at or very close to the release of the game in September.
Though, as it has already been stated, we do not have enough information, these assumptions are scary enough. I doubt Nintendo will include Nasty Plot or Earth Power or even Ice Beam and such to Shaymin's arsenal, but we'll have to wait and see.
Given that the set runs 120 base Sp Atk, which seems most logical, a Timid one with Choice Specs runs 508 Sp Atk. After a Sp Def drop on a switch in, Seed Flare can do anywhere from 635 - 759 (88.9 - 106.3%) damage to a Max HP/4 Sp Def Blissey; enough to 2HKO. Even those things that are resistant when switching in find themselves face-to-face with an essentially non-resistant, powerful attack on the next turn.
What this boils down to is that any Shaymin counter will have to be resistant to Grass, preferably x4, and must be wary of Air Slash coming at any time as well. If this thing has enough speed to outspeed Scarftran, things might turn ugly for your opponent really quickly.
And to a typical Heatran, the same Shaymin can do anywhere from 198 - 233 (59.5-70.0%) damage over 2 Seed Flares (Including Sp Def drop), which means switching in with anything less than 2/3 of your health means death. Of course, Shaymin will only get in the second Flare in if it outspeeds you, which we won't find out until the actual stats are released at or very close to the release of the game in September.
Though, as it has already been stated, we do not have enough information, these assumptions are scary enough. I doubt Nintendo will include Nasty Plot or Earth Power or even Ice Beam and such to Shaymin's arsenal, but we'll have to wait and see.
Battle frontier was the best part of the info for me.
it doesnt matter. ubers was never designed to be a balanced metagame, its just a banlist like bl.
hopefully shyamin gets focus blast, that would be sick as hell @__@
Seed Flare
Focus Blast
Air Slash
Hp ice?
@wide lens so that everything hits and hp ice hits chomp in sand ?_?
Am I the only one who cares about getting alternate sprites for every Pokemon? So many people like thier team to stand out asthetically on Shoddy via making their favourite Pokemon shiny and such I think being able to chose from two different poses would be a more than welcome addition.
Ok yeah Shaymin's new form is undoubtedly a tad more exciting but I think asthetics are quite important >.>
Ok yeah Shaymin's new form is undoubtedly a tad more exciting but I think asthetics are quite important >.>
No, there's already been a movie trailer showing Giratina in another forme dragging dialga into the torn world and giratina changing back into origin form.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvX5gzCKb0A
Giratina sounds pretty cool in that trailer; I don't know if anyone noticed, but when it pulls Dialga into the Torn World, it sounds an awful like Meta Ridley's "injured" cry from Metroid Prime. Check out this video for reference if you'd like. Also, where's Brock?
Anyway, back onto the game, I don't think we should be speculating on stats yet. Chances are they'll show up early September, but there's no sense speculating on what Shaymin will/won't threaten with stats that aren't even confirmed yet.
Also I don't think anyone's said this recently, but I'm liking the new HP bars.
Anyway, back onto the game, I don't think we should be speculating on stats yet. Chances are they'll show up early September, but there's no sense speculating on what Shaymin will/won't threaten with stats that aren't even confirmed yet.
Also I don't think anyone's said this recently, but I'm liking the new HP bars.
That would be cool, but without stats we can't know if it will pose a threat to Heatran, even with Focus Blast. I'd hope for Ice Beam btw.
Oh, and I was telling someone what the point was, not what mine was. Please tell the person that made the statements about what you think, not me.
I still want to know what the hell will Regigigas do in this movie. I mean, I've seen him in other trailers, but he isn't mentioned in the movie's name, and is being distributed with Shaymin...
Usually in cases where the move doesn't seem like it makes sense, it's because of the translation of the name of the move from Japanese. Dugtrio also learns Sucker Punch, but he has no arms. But the Japanese name for Sucker Punch is "Ambush", and that seems to make more sense. Wooper, though, I haven't the slightest clue.
Ubers wasn't designed. What I'm saying is that Sky Form Shaymin might be useless and see very minimal competitive play.
Seconded. Somewhat akin to NetBattle I imagine, where you could select sprites from all generations.
I really hope this game has worthwhile move tutors. It will probably (definitely?) have the berries that are only available in the Extended Clause Shoddy gameplay.
no its horrible because it sounds like fucking mothra. I can't believe they would even consider using that sound for him why can't they come up with their own cooler sounding roar then mothra. I have nothing against mothra (he's awesome) but i don't like it when they copy other monsters sound, it looks low quality and crappy.
What's so wrong about Defense Curl and Nightmare? /sarcasm
I hope that, if they bring back the Move Tutors, they don't make them one use only.
Yeah, like Starf/Lansat in Emerald.
Mothra is a she.
With the addition of serence grace I love this new shaymin even more. Too bad we aren't likely to see platinum in the US anytime soon.
And yes, it sucks that they always release a "better" version of the games but you know it's going to come out eventually. So if you're ok with waiting for two years you could always pick up the third one first. :P
Mothra can be girl or boy.
I'm going to try and play through the Japanese version as well as I'm able.
Mothra is a Venomoth :P
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