Apparently SV has had a spectator mode all along? (Or maybe since last update)
Odd that they haven't been using it for vgc streams.
Odd that they haven't been using it for vgc streams.
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Pokemon Scarlet & Violet - 18th Nov 2022! **OFFICIAL INFO ONLY**
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Today I decided to get the auctions for most of the legendary items over with. After noticing a few different price variations, I felt like I was getting ripped off and went to check how this all worked. According to serebii/Anubis's auction pages, the special items all start with a base cost of $500 and have a minimum buyable price of $4000. However, there is a different budget multiplier for each of the NPCs that will allow them to bid at higher amounts. The older NPCs with a 1.8x budget will only give up after $7200/when you bid $7500, meaning you could save about $3000 each time by withdrawing from these auctions whenever they show up to avoid getting scammed since they immediately respawn anyway.
My main strategy ended up to aim for an ideal of $4500 each time to outbid the other NPCs. The 1.2x NPCs will lose if you bet $4500 because they don't want to go above $4800 with their bet, though sometimes they will end up putting $4500 down themselves which may make you spend $5000 instead. The best case scenario is if you get 2 NPCs with 1 or 1.1x to win with $4000, especially since the 1x NPCs only ever up the price by $500. Sometimes you can still play around the other NPCs randomly bidding higher, like I had a fast round where I started with $1000 and the 2 other NPCs went for the high $1500 bids so I could end it at $4500. Overall I thought this was a nice way to figure out the auction mechanics with consistent prices and easy replayability, though the real strategy ends up revolving around gaming the NPCs themselves to reach a threshold rather than the act of outbidding opponents.
(Defeating the 1.2x and 1.1x NPCs at minimum price.)
My main strategy ended up to aim for an ideal of $4500 each time to outbid the other NPCs. The 1.2x NPCs will lose if you bet $4500 because they don't want to go above $4800 with their bet, though sometimes they will end up putting $4500 down themselves which may make you spend $5000 instead. The best case scenario is if you get 2 NPCs with 1 or 1.1x to win with $4000, especially since the 1x NPCs only ever up the price by $500. Sometimes you can still play around the other NPCs randomly bidding higher, like I had a fast round where I started with $1000 and the 2 other NPCs went for the high $1500 bids so I could end it at $4500. Overall I thought this was a nice way to figure out the auction mechanics with consistent prices and easy replayability, though the real strategy ends up revolving around gaming the NPCs themselves to reach a threshold rather than the act of outbidding opponents.
(Defeating the 1.2x and 1.1x NPCs at minimum price.)
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Just curious, have Nintendo/TPC stated anywhere that WW/IL are Legendary (or do they have some internal marker)? Was browsing the Legendary page on Bulbapedia and noticed they weren’t listed there. Would just be surprising to me considering their basis. Wouldn’t set a precedent either considering Koraidon/Miraidon are counted as Legendary despite being Paradoxes (and even Paradoxes of a non-legendary Pokemon).
They aren't legendary internally, no.
There's about 15 hours left on this VGC Bronzong distribution with code 22SEN10RCHAMP. It comes with a free Leftovers.
Something noteworthy about the last such VGC distribution with Palafin is that it had Wave Crash at Level 50 which Palafin can't normally have otherwise.
On a different note, a while ago I noticed this placeholder Pikachu that shows up in the raid lookup when loading event data when there's no current event going on, and I found a reddit post about someone who actually got this Pikachu with the same moves and all back in the 1.0.1 days between the Eevee and Charizard events.
Something noteworthy about the last such VGC distribution with Palafin is that it had Wave Crash at Level 50 which Palafin can't normally have otherwise.
On a different note, a while ago I noticed this placeholder Pikachu that shows up in the raid lookup when loading event data when there's no current event going on, and I found a reddit post about someone who actually got this Pikachu with the same moves and all back in the 1.0.1 days between the Eevee and Charizard events.
There's a VGC Gastrodon distribution now, also with a free Leftovers.
According to the HOME move dumps posted in the battle mechanics thread, this is because Hisuian Decidueye is not listed to have any of Rowlet's egg moves in its HOME-SV movepool, and in general it seems gamefreak didn't count the Hisuian evolutions as having access to SV egg moves even though they branch off the same mon. Despite this fact, you can still Mirror Herb egg moves like Roost onto Hisuian Decidueye within SV anyway, so it feels like more of an error on HOME's side.
Also in the process of raising the PLA gifts, I found out that SV does not display the 7th digit of EXP when using EXP candies.
Another update to this HOME mystery is that Hisuian Decidueye cannot learn Roost via the HOME relearner, despite being a level-up move in PLA and an egg move in SV that seems to fit all the criteria for move transfers.
According to the HOME move dumps posted in the battle mechanics thread, this is because Hisuian Decidueye is not listed to have any of Rowlet's egg moves in its HOME-SV movepool, and in general it seems gamefreak didn't count the Hisuian evolutions as having access to SV egg moves even though they branch off the same mon. Despite this fact, you can still Mirror Herb egg moves like Roost onto Hisuian Decidueye within SV anyway, so it feels like more of an error on HOME's side.
Also in the process of raising the PLA gifts, I found out that SV does not display the 7th digit of EXP when using EXP candies.
Wasn't expecting the dlc to be shown in the direct, but nice to finally see some in-game footage of the dlc areas. Hopefully we don't have to wait until world's for the next info dump. Would like to see some hints of new mons or even type reveals soon.
The hunt for shiny gimmighoul begins soon too.
I was legitimately stunned to see the new trailer in the direct
Like I was going to post about the direct here yesterday but from how the past couple years went I just figured we'd get a Pokemon direct later this month or next month.
It was cool to see the environments involved. Was a little surprised they didn't show a new pokemon or form
Like I was going to post about the direct here yesterday but from how the past couple years went I just figured we'd get a Pokemon direct later this month or next month.
It was cool to see the environments involved. Was a little surprised they didn't show a new pokemon or form
Official site has updated with a bit of new info. Most interesting is this:
The Toxic Chain Ability
Okidogi, Munkidori, and Fezandipiti’s Toxic Chain is a new Ability being introduced in the DLC for Pokémon Scarlet and Pokémon Violet. When one of these three Pokémon hits an opponent with a move, the power of the toxic chain all three Pokémon have may cause the opponent to become badly poisoned.
The Toxic Chain Ability
Okidogi, Munkidori, and Fezandipiti’s Toxic Chain is a new Ability being introduced in the DLC for Pokémon Scarlet and Pokémon Violet. When one of these three Pokémon hits an opponent with a move, the power of the toxic chain all three Pokémon have may cause the opponent to become badly poisoned.
The website has updated with little information, most notably they reveal that the new Pokémon (dog, bear, bird) get a new ability that is an enhanced Poison Touch (attacks may badly poison target). This suggests the three of them share the Poison type.
https://scarletviolet.pokemon.com/en-us/news/dlc_pokemon/
Excited about the terrarium. Also both new locations show non-Paldean Pokémon in the wild so I’m wondering whether this imply we can breed/evolve regional evolutions in there. It could be a solution for people with PLA if the terrarium simulates the distant past, allowing things like Stantler/Ursaring to evolve.
https://scarletviolet.pokemon.com/en-us/news/dlc_pokemon/
Excited about the terrarium. Also both new locations show non-Paldean Pokémon in the wild so I’m wondering whether this imply we can breed/evolve regional evolutions in there. It could be a solution for people with PLA if the terrarium simulates the distant past, allowing things like Stantler/Ursaring to evolve.
So is it just me or do these 2 areas look better than most of Paldea does, visually. Ignoring framerate stuff since obviously that's going to be better in most trailers.
Like it's still not breaking the bank, but as someone who has been running around paldea for many hours things like the roads and buildings just look....nicer?
I remember feeling similarly about SWSH's DLC areas; still janky but seemed a step up.
Like it's still not breaking the bank, but as someone who has been running around paldea for many hours things like the roads and buildings just look....nicer?
I remember feeling similarly about SWSH's DLC areas; still janky but seemed a step up.
Cool to finally see in-game footage of the DLC areas. Really love and enjoy SV in spite of its faults, can't wait to explore Kitakami and the Blueberry Academy's wildlife.
Also more Double Battles and tutor moves/TMs? Hell yeah let's fucking go!
Really excited for this new DLC and individually it's looking even better than SwSh's DLC (which redeemed that incredibly underwhelming experience for me) and combined with SV itself this will be great! SV is already one of my favorite Pokemon games and this may push it up even higher for me.
Also more Double Battles and tutor moves/TMs? Hell yeah let's fucking go!
Really excited for this new DLC and individually it's looking even better than SwSh's DLC (which redeemed that incredibly underwhelming experience for me) and combined with SV itself this will be great! SV is already one of my favorite Pokemon games and this may push it up even higher for me.
I was pleasantly surprised to see a trailer in the Direct, as they tend to steer clear, however I'm guessing TPCi don't have enough content yet for a proper Presents and we'll get one of those in August that will give us at least the release date for Part 1 (I'm guessing late October, Mario seems to be 2023's Nintendo November release)
I wasn't blown away by the trailer, but it was nice to see it from an in-game perspective, Teal Mask looks to be quite big, looks as if we're almost exploring a significant portion of a somewhat brand new region? (Maybe region in the same way Orange Islands are considered their own Region in the anime)
I have to say I'm not loving the concept of Part 2 with the entire area just being an underground park which seems smaller than anticipated, although I'm expecting Part 2 to be the Paradox/Tera focus too, so I imagine that actual Paldea will be the basis for most of the DLC too.
Not much to comment on at this moment, seeing everything in motion was great after 4 months of radio silence. Hopefully release dates are given soon.
I wasn't blown away by the trailer, but it was nice to see it from an in-game perspective, Teal Mask looks to be quite big, looks as if we're almost exploring a significant portion of a somewhat brand new region? (Maybe region in the same way Orange Islands are considered their own Region in the anime)
I have to say I'm not loving the concept of Part 2 with the entire area just being an underground park which seems smaller than anticipated, although I'm expecting Part 2 to be the Paradox/Tera focus too, so I imagine that actual Paldea will be the basis for most of the DLC too.
Not much to comment on at this moment, seeing everything in motion was great after 4 months of radio silence. Hopefully release dates are given soon.
I am really curious what they are going to do with Terapagos ability-wise and mechanically. Building a dex-numbered mon around a regional mechanic has implications for gen 10 and beyond. I wouldn't be shocked if Terapagos has a multitype clone that allows you to change its base type, and then when it Teras it gains the additional type, allowing for all 171 type combos on a single Pokemon.
I'm guessing Kitakami is closer to the size of the Terarium then it appears, but I also assume we're going to have another chunk of Area Zero that they're not showing off yet for Indigo Disk.
I think the implications with this shot are really interesting. It seems you'll be able to get regional variants from past regions in the Terrarium, making it so there's a way to directly obtain them in-game rather than through transfering from other games. Imo this is a fantastic decision as quite a few of these regional variants could be very tricky to obtain otherwise and its just a cleaner way of implementing them into the game than SwSh's million i-game trades between regional and non-regional mons. Additionally, it is very possible that we may be able to evolve exeggcute into alolan Exeggutor in this part of the terrarium, which is anothe QOL improvment imo. This may also be where we get Hisuian mons and trigger the evolutions for Stantler/Ursaring/Scyther.
Similarly, in another shot of the trailer, we see Johtonian Wooper, since Kitakami is not in the Paldea region. While already obtainable in-game through a trade, this makes it also a lot easier to access. Presumably Kantonian Tauros will be obtainable somewhere in the DLC as well.
I'm honestly very glad they're taking this route to implement the variants in a more accessible and convinient way. I see this as GameFreak testing to see what the general perception to the regional variants being outside of their introductory region is - In future games we could potentially have, say, Ninetales obtainable in one area but Alolan Ninetales also obtainable in another route because the climate there is similar to that of Alola's; for an example
Overall just think it's a neat improvement on how the regionals are handled
You can also see a statue of Hisuian Growlithe in the Teal Mask half of the trailer:
Maybe the Hisuian variant is still kicking in Kitakami? Like Johtonian Wooper, it would be a nice little way to differentiate it from what we can find in Paldea.
If anything, I'm expecting Kitakami to be loosely connected to Hisui somehow - its inspired by japanese festivals after all so it very much could be somewhere close to Hisui/Sinnoh in the Pokémon World, the statue just being an indication of that. Relevantly we also see a lot of Johto mons in Kitakami so it may be what connects Johto to Sinnoh. On that note though - Since Kitakami is its own mini region, would it maybe be possible that we see Kitakamian Forms?
I think if we were to get the hisuian variants in the wild, it'd probably just be in the Terarium
It's interesting to note that Kitakami from what's been pieced together is actually a real location in real world Japan, and it seems to be based in the Iwate Prefecture, which is located in the Tohoku region of Japan.
Looking at the map of real world Japan, the Tohoku region is south of Hokkaido, and north of Kanto.
In the Pokemon world, the original four Japan-based regions are based on different regions of real world Japan, which stemmed the Pokemon term "region" I imagine.
Kanto is obviously real world Kanto, since that's the main urbanized industrial region of Japan and where Tokyo is which is why it was the first.
Johto is Kansai, which is west of Kanto, and paralleling that Johto is west of Kanto on the same landmass.
Hoenn is Kyushu, the southernmost of the main islands and the warmest of the lot.
Sinnoh is Hokkaido, the northernmost of the regions and also the coldest.
If we're to use these as basis, Kitakami would accordingly be south of Sinnoh and north of the Kanto+Johto landmass. It's reasonable to believe Sinnoh and Johto would both have elements integrated into Kitakami as a result, seeing as how if we're using real world Japan as the basis, Kitakami would effectively be sandwiched between Sinnoh and Kanto/Johto and thus very naturally have mutual crossover with them.
Seeing as how the Johtonian form of Wooper was shown in Kitakami, and Wooper in the Japan-based regions is found in both Sinnoh and Johto, it would line up quite nicely as well. Perhaps we'll get Kantonian Tauros here as well, and maybe a few Hisuian forms like Goodra or Braviary here as well. Hisuian Goodra could end up acting as Kitakami's "resident pseudo-legendary" in that regard, despite being extinct in modern Sinnoh, for instance.
Another thing worth noting is that both regions are very much abroad in this regard: Kitakami seems to be its own mini-region and as I've highlighted, is evidently close to the original four Japan-based regions which is thus far away from Paldea (Pokemon's version of the Iberian Penninsula). The Blueberry Academy has a Terrarium as a preservation park but it's also in a foreign place from Paldea as they've noted that you're studying abroad. This also lines up with it introducing old regional forms as catchable.
This is very interesting and seems to be even grander in scope than SwSh ever was: SwSh stayed put in Galar for the most part with the Isle of Armor as a nearby island being the farthest scope they ever got, but both of these areas for the SV DLC are foreign regions from Paldea.
As a side note, this also raises interesting implications from a lore standpoint for the Terastal phenomenon, which the trailer confirmed is usable in these areas. While Z-Moves and Dynamax were deeply entrenched in Alola and Galar's lore respectively and the latter straight up couldn't be used outside of Galar, Terastal seems to be closer to Mega Evolution albeit with slightly less dubious origins, in that this implies it has been found and used in other regions outside of Paldea, much like how despite Megas dominantly being associated with Kalos and originally being believed to only be there at first, they were also found in Hoenn with their own origins as to how they got there. Meanwhile Terastal is likewise found in all of Paldea, Kitakami, and the Blueberry Academy location. Perhaps Ogerpon may explain why it's usable in Kitakami, and may even be related to Terapagos the implied creator of the Terastal phenomenon in a way. This will be an interesting set of lore to explore in that regard and I look forward to seeing how this plays out.
Looking at the map of real world Japan, the Tohoku region is south of Hokkaido, and north of Kanto.
In the Pokemon world, the original four Japan-based regions are based on different regions of real world Japan, which stemmed the Pokemon term "region" I imagine.
Kanto is obviously real world Kanto, since that's the main urbanized industrial region of Japan and where Tokyo is which is why it was the first.
Johto is Kansai, which is west of Kanto, and paralleling that Johto is west of Kanto on the same landmass.
Hoenn is Kyushu, the southernmost of the main islands and the warmest of the lot.
Sinnoh is Hokkaido, the northernmost of the regions and also the coldest.
If we're to use these as basis, Kitakami would accordingly be south of Sinnoh and north of the Kanto+Johto landmass. It's reasonable to believe Sinnoh and Johto would both have elements integrated into Kitakami as a result, seeing as how if we're using real world Japan as the basis, Kitakami would effectively be sandwiched between Sinnoh and Kanto/Johto and thus very naturally have mutual crossover with them.
Seeing as how the Johtonian form of Wooper was shown in Kitakami, and Wooper in the Japan-based regions is found in both Sinnoh and Johto, it would line up quite nicely as well. Perhaps we'll get Kantonian Tauros here as well, and maybe a few Hisuian forms like Goodra or Braviary here as well. Hisuian Goodra could end up acting as Kitakami's "resident pseudo-legendary" in that regard, despite being extinct in modern Sinnoh, for instance.
Another thing worth noting is that both regions are very much abroad in this regard: Kitakami seems to be its own mini-region and as I've highlighted, is evidently close to the original four Japan-based regions which is thus far away from Paldea (Pokemon's version of the Iberian Penninsula). The Blueberry Academy has a Terrarium as a preservation park but it's also in a foreign place from Paldea as they've noted that you're studying abroad. This also lines up with it introducing old regional forms as catchable.
This is very interesting and seems to be even grander in scope than SwSh ever was: SwSh stayed put in Galar for the most part with the Isle of Armor as a nearby island being the farthest scope they ever got, but both of these areas for the SV DLC are foreign regions from Paldea.
As a side note, this also raises interesting implications from a lore standpoint for the Terastal phenomenon, which the trailer confirmed is usable in these areas. While Z-Moves and Dynamax were deeply entrenched in Alola and Galar's lore respectively and the latter straight up couldn't be used outside of Galar, Terastal seems to be closer to Mega Evolution albeit with slightly less dubious origins, in that this implies it has been found and used in other regions outside of Paldea, much like how despite Megas dominantly being associated with Kalos and originally being believed to only be there at first, they were also found in Hoenn with their own origins as to how they got there. Meanwhile Terastal is likewise found in all of Paldea, Kitakami, and the Blueberry Academy location. Perhaps Ogerpon may explain why it's usable in Kitakami, and may even be related to Terapagos the implied creator of the Terastal phenomenon in a way. This will be an interesting set of lore to explore in that regard and I look forward to seeing how this plays out.
Kitakami's weird because it feels both treated as a distant land and also as like. a Neighbor to Paldea. Like it's presumably right next to Blueberry Academy, which has some notes elsewhere of being next to Paldea. And also also you know the entire Treasure of Area Zero thing. That terarium's crystaline cubes are likely made of similar stuff, terastlization is possible and I assume that there'll be some raid crystals in both the terarium and kitakami
I mean it's ultimately their own fantasy world (not like any of them align 1:1 to begin with....) so sure Not-Tohuku can be right next to Not-Spain, but it's all just very silly.
I mean it's ultimately their own fantasy world (not like any of them align 1:1 to begin with....) so sure Not-Tohuku can be right next to Not-Spain, but it's all just very silly.
Wouldn’t it just be terribly funny, after all of the theorizing, if the tract of land in the northeastern corner of Paldea turned out to just be totally unused?
Like, I’m becoming more convinced that it *won’t* be Kitakami (which is distinctly Japanese, and would be kind of strange to frame as an “abroad” location if it were somewhere that was just a five-minute stroll away from the Caph Squad base), and it would be even weirder for what, at present, is visibly a big landmass to just be deleted from existence to make room for the seabound Blueberry Academy.
I have half a mind to think GF put it there just because they didn’t want to break verisimilitude by having their version of Spain be an island instead of a peninsula, but also didn’t want to deal with any considerations about what’s at the border and why we can’t keep going past it.
Like, I’m becoming more convinced that it *won’t* be Kitakami (which is distinctly Japanese, and would be kind of strange to frame as an “abroad” location if it were somewhere that was just a five-minute stroll away from the Caph Squad base), and it would be even weirder for what, at present, is visibly a big landmass to just be deleted from existence to make room for the seabound Blueberry Academy.
I have half a mind to think GF put it there just because they didn’t want to break verisimilitude by having their version of Spain be an island instead of a peninsula, but also didn’t want to deal with any considerations about what’s at the border and why we can’t keep going past it.
It likely isn't. I've fgiured since the reveal that it probably wasn't, though admittedly I first thought that was because it was an island (onigashima, and all), but there's also a map of a land mass that you see both in the very first trailer and in the classroom of this trailer (the one that points out the Geodude in a desert locale) and considering the primary Blueberry area is the Terrarium I have to figure the landmass being showcased is Kitakami.
Which is definitely not the upper right of Paldea. It's just there for flavor that yes this thing is connected
Also this early shot of the trailer shows that the Pokemon Centers in Kitakami may lack the universal Poke Mart services, though there's a shopping bag banner a few blocks away on the right side of the screen anyway.