I don't remember the levels, but Illusion itself wasn't broken as you can see, there's no Zoroark icon on the left.
Apologies if this is the intended behavior.
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Format Discussion Pokemon Sun/Moon Random Battle sets
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Apologies if this is the intended behavior.
This is the intended behavior, the sim doesn't explicitly state that there's a Zoroark, only that the two Victrebell's that have been sent out differ.
I'm more confused about the duplicate Gallades.
It duplicates all mons that the Zoroark disguises itself as, that the server can tell it did that is.
why does dusknoir have only shadow sneak as stab? it's slow ok but so are many other mons, and it's quite tanky so idk what the point is of a weak priority move when shadow punch would be much better
Because Shadow Punch is so weak that Earthquake does more damage assuming same type effectiveness, and Shadow Punch will hit almost nothing super-effectively.
i literally got smashed by bruxish cos my set was sub focus sneak wisp, and it was dazzling bruxish.
there's mew cofagrigus golurk alakazam and i get that 2 sneaks is stronger than a shadow punch but there's 2 mons that are immune to priority, and there's tapu lele that also negates priority for 4 turns
i get that clicking sneak vs mewtwo is clutch but i don't see how anything invalidates the use of shadow punch, just put both of them in the pool and you can have a condition to not have both on the same set i see no downsides to this
Got this exact same moveset today.
EDIT: Also what's the point of Flare Blitz on Entei when it has Sacred Fire?
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It's a stronger STAB with more PP, Entei doesn't have much in terms of coverage options anyway
Random monotype with non mega venusaur - overgrow - heat rock - gigadrain/sludgebomb/sleeppowder/sunnyday. Sunny day was useless but i used it anyway.... Surely this venusaur heat rock set should always have sunny day and chlorophyll?
Well yesterday I got an Entei with both moves (Sacred Fire and Flare Blitz), surely THAT shouldn't be a thing, right?
I got a Tyrantrum @ Focus Sash (Strong Jaw) with Earthquake/Outrage/Superpower/Stealth Rock
Strong Jaw seems useless without any moves to use it with, Head Smash with Rock Head instead of Superpower would be a LOT better wouldn't it?
Strong Jaw seems useless without any moves to use it with, Head Smash with Rock Head instead of Superpower would be a LOT better wouldn't it?
No that's fine to get, that's what I meant. It's what it runs in UU if it's used there.
Encountered a double dancing Kingdra. No need to have both Dragon and Rain dance on this set.
There's nothing wrong with that set. Kingdra doesn't have any necessary coverage moves. You Dragon Dance or Rain Dance depending on the situation, or both.
My Venusaur with Sunny Day and Heat Rock had Overgrow as it's ability rather than Chlorophyll, which seems...less than ideal.
Full set was Sunny Day/Giga Drain/Sludge Bomb/Leech Seed, so like literally why is Sunny Day even there.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-919914673
Full set was Sunny Day/Giga Drain/Sludge Bomb/Leech Seed, so like literally why is Sunny Day even there.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-919914673
Can Shadow Ball be replaced with Recover in this set. Or just make it so Dark Pulse and Shadow Ball can't be on the same set. They have completely redundant coverage and Sableye gets no benefits running both.
I still don't see a plausible purpose for Rain Dance Heliolisk. I understand Surf, Thunder, and Dry Skin, but Surf and Dry Skin are good on Lisk anyway, and Thunder isn't a necessity when Thunderbolt and/or Volt Switch are more than solid anyway. I could see it if Heliolisk either had actual STAB on Surf, Swift Swim, or was just guaranteed Surf and Thunder on the RD Sets, but as seen by the lack of Surf, it's not even a guarantee you'll get that. The applications in which you'll get to use Rain Dance are pretty situational anyway, and pretty much every time it appears you would much rather have either another STAB or coverage (Like in the aforementioned first screenshot where I could easily be Volt Switch, Hyper Voice, or Surf and be on my way). There even exists sets that will roll Thunder as the sole Electric STAB but no Rain Dance; this leaves you reliant on Thunder without any way of getting past the accuracy, which shouldn't be the case on a mon that can roll Thunderbolt and Volt Switch.
To be honest, while the pictured set isn't half bad now that I think about it, there still isn't any purpose for Rain Dance or Thunder, just as standalone Thunder really isn't enough to justify Rain Dance, and they could easily be swapped for any combination of Volt Switch, Thunderbolt, Hyper Voice, or Surf.
As stated earlier I could see it if Heliolisk either had water STAB, Swift Swim, Waterium Z, Electrium Z, or was guaranteed to roll Surf/Hyper Voice/Thunder alongside Rain Dance, but none of these factors are true, and for that reason I am suggesting that Rain Dance and Thunder be removed from Heliolisk's possible moveset.
Ice beam, u-turn, scald and rest @ sash with lead Phione
No rain dance or drizzle either on my team.
Guess it's an issue that stems from leads often getting sash + Phione only having those 4 moves + rain dance in its move pool, so if it gets the 3 attacking moves first, it has to get either rain dance or rest as its last move, even if it has sash...
Might be bold, but maybe knock off could be added to its movepool? Dazzling gleam and grass knot could also be options, but they're far less useful than knock off. Maybe toxic?
No rain dance or drizzle either on my team.
Guess it's an issue that stems from leads often getting sash + Phione only having those 4 moves + rain dance in its move pool, so if it gets the 3 attacking moves first, it has to get either rain dance or rest as its last move, even if it has sash...
Might be bold, but maybe knock off could be added to its movepool? Dazzling gleam and grass knot could also be options, but they're far less useful than knock off. Maybe toxic?
please remove tect from mega gengar
I understand how two Dragon STABs could be usefull here (same attacking stats, one doesn't lower your special attack) but it felt weird to have both.
I have no idea how Flame Charge was considered the Fire STAB. At least it had Dragon Pulse!
Something about that set rubbed me the wrong way.
Sorry if any of these sets are supposed to be good. I just thought it would be worth mentioning some of these in case something went wrong.
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scald focus blast hydro pump giga drain ludicolo @ specs... with own tempo
the chance you or your opponent have RD is much higher than the chance you get confused; own tempo should never be a thing unless the pokemon has an outrage clone or has no better ability, even keen eye is probably better
the chance you or your opponent have RD is much higher than the chance you get confused; own tempo should never be a thing unless the pokemon has an outrage clone or has no better ability, even keen eye is probably better
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Mixed Kyurem is actually really good like that, I agree that Flame Charge Reshiram is a bit underwhelming tho, and the Zoroark set doesn't seem that bad for a choiced set even.
Did a thing to try and improve Surf+Rain Dance+Thunder chances instead.
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