pokesaved poke = legit poke???????

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just want opinions.

i think the pokes made by pokesav arent legit (legal...mmm... dunno the word since im not a native english speaker ="( ) at all, but there is a spanish guy who thinks they are, he uses pokes with 31 ivs in every stat, he says experts do that, he says all people use it in every good forum (like this one)

dunno if anyone here speak spanish but here is the quote xD

BlackFire said:
si, la verdad esque si, con el pokesav.. Para que te voy a mentir, como todos los Xpertos... pero como algunos Noobs/Newbie no saben utilizarlo, y ponen mas de 510 Ev's a Cada Pokemon... Pues es lo que pasa que el Pokesav tiene mala Fama... pero, si os vais a cualquier otro foro conocido... Vereis como se puede usar el pokesav, en buenas condiciones y nada de Hacks... Ejemplos: PxP, P-P, Smogon... etc. Porque son legales... nO como la mayoria de los Noobs... Eso Es Lo que Pienso, Yo Utilizo el Pokesav Legalmente No Como Otros de este Foro.
Salu2.
PD: Si No me creeis que no son legales... Decirles la verdad como son los pokemon con los que combato. Os Lo Puede Decir Mtp1700, charenano... etc.
SOY LEGAL!!! XDD
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what do you think guys??? how can i say him, that pokesav is just for making illegal pokes??? becaouse it is isnt it???? o.o
 
Of course it's not legit, if it wasn't hatched from an egg, caught in the wild, or obtained at an event, it's not legit. Good Pokemon are very hard to breed, and most people here don't appreciate hackers devaluing their hard work. An "expert" wouldn't need to make fake Pokemon, because if he was truly skilled, he could breed them himself.
 
Experts do NOT hack Pokemon, every good forum does NOT hack Pokemon, that's complete idiodicy to think that PokeSav'd Pokemon is what "experts" do.

In any case, this is just something that you just shouldn't reply to, I'm not too sure why I'm even posting here to explain how stupid that guy's logic actually is. This is here as a warning for people posting here right now:

STOP TYPING.
PUT YOUR FINGERS DOWN AND STEP AWAY FROM THE THREAD.
NOTHING TO SEE HERE FOLKS.

...Have a nice day. <3
 
If I'm playing someone with hacked pokemon, but legal stats, I don't care. If I want to use a pokemon in battle and I don't have a legit version if it, I'll hack it with legal stats. If someone uses an Arceus with 999 attack, that's a different matter entirely.
 
He doesn't ask if they are legit, he asks if they are legal, which depends.

SpanishGuy said:
y ponen mas de 510 Ev's a Cada Pokemon
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He says they [Noobs] put more than 510 EV's in each Poke because they don't know how to use it [PokeSav], so in the case of Noobs, the Pokes are neither legit nor legal.
 
First things first: Pokesav'd Pokemon are not legitimate.

Secondly, this question has been discussed repeatedly. As I had said in other threads where this was discussed, it all boils down to the mathematician vs. engineer problem, as I call it. There are two types of people:

1) The mathematician, who cares only if a Pokemon CAN exist, not if it exists. These guys wouldn't mind Pokemon with perfect IVs, perfect breeding moves, perfect nature, perfect ability and perfect Hidden Power types and base power being sharked, as long as it is possible to achieve such a Pokemon.

2) The engineer, who cares only if a Pokemon exists, not if it can exist. These guys care only about the Pokemon they see, not of those Pokemon that can't be seen but are possible to exist.

Type 1) people usually end up doing the majority of their Pokemon playing on simulators such as Shoddybattle. Type 2) people usually do the majority of their Pokemon playing on Wi-Fi. Because of this, sharking on Wi-Fi is deemed to be cheating by the majority of the Wi-Fi community.
 
whats the diference between legit and legal???

and bout that quote, he is talking about "noobs that use the pokesav" because he dont put 510 evs in every poke but 31 ivs in every stat, i hate him ¬¬
 
legal= can be obtained normally, i.e. no more than 31 ivs in one stat, no more than 510 evs total, no more than 255 evs in one stat, legal movepool. hacked pokemon can be 'legal' but are never 'legit'.

legit= obtained in-game without the aid of a cheating device.

hasn't there already been like three thousand topics about this
 
If you lose to a pokesav'ed pokemon with legal stats, you lost because you either played poorly, or you did not have a counter to said pokemon. Not because pokesav somehow caused the otherwise legal pokemon to beat you.
 
A pokesaved poke can never be legit.It can be legal for wifi play but never legit.And no whoever said that only experts use 31 In all stats is wrong.If anything it's the people that know how to breed for good stats that are the experts.

I use pokesaved pokemon because I don't have time to breed for months just to get a few pokemon.But I always make sure whatever i'm using is possible.For example I would never use a bold wishbliss or a thunderpunch poison heal breloom.If you are using impossible movesets or natures you simply arn't playing real pokemon.

I guess it should be fair to let every single one of my opponents know that I use pokesavs to see if their ok with it.If they arn't I defenitly understand.
 
Syberia said:
If I'm playing someone with hacked pokemon, but legal stats, I don't care. If I want to use a pokemon in battle and I don't have a legit version if it, I'll hack it with legal stats. If someone uses an Arceus with 999 attack, that's a different matter entirely.
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When you do that do you give them 31 in every stat though?
 
Yeah. And I expect my opponent to do the same, even when I'm using legit (non-31-all) pokes.

As of today, my entire team is legit though :)
 
I've been using hacks for the 2-3 months it's taken me to get my team together. I'm sure as hell not going to wait around on my ass for the RNG to pop out a good pokemon, and if I already have a team I can take my sweet time with it.

And I guess I should rephrase that, 5/6 of my team is legit. The other pokemon is forbidden's :p
 
its obivously illegit, but if i were to face a pokemon that was pokesaved that had 100% legal in all stats, abilites, moves, etc. i would not care.
 
X-Act said:
First things first: Pokesav'd Pokemon are not legitimate.

Secondly, this question has been discussed repeatedly. As I had said in other threads where this was discussed, it all boils down to the mathematician vs. engineer problem, as I call it. There are two types of people:

1) The mathematician, who cares only if a Pokemon CAN exist, not if it exists. These guys wouldn't mind Pokemon with perfect IVs, perfect breeding moves, perfect nature, perfect ability and perfect Hidden Power types and base power being sharked, as long as it is possible to achieve such a Pokemon.

2) The engineer, who cares only if a Pokemon exists, not if it can exist. These guys care only about the Pokemon they see, not of those Pokemon that can't be seen but are possible to exist.

Type 1) people usually end up doing the majority of their Pokemon playing on simulators such as Shoddybattle. Type 2) people usually do the majority of their Pokemon playing on Wi-Fi. Because of this, sharking on Wi-Fi is deemed to be cheating by the majority of the Wi-Fi community.
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Thank you. End thread.
 
Well, it's a mixed bag really.

Technically, a Pokesav'd Poke (even one with a perfectly legal moveset, IVs, EVs, etc) is not a legit Poke because it was still hacked.

But there is nothing "wrong" with doing it.
 
Ok lets get this straight....

1.)Pokesav was made by former nintendo/pokemon co. employees.

2.) The Action Replay was made by former Nintendo employees.

3.)Neither are licensed nor endorsed by Nintendo.

4.) It is not ok to use hacks all the time ex. Wi-fi battles. A good place to use hacks is to catch legit pokemon or to breed. ( I only use hacks to breed)

5.) It is not illegal but you can get in trouble under certain circumstances.

6.)
SimChao said:
Well, it's a mixed bag really.

Technically, a Pokesav'd Poke (even one with a perfectly legal moveset, IVs, EVs, etc) is not a legit Poke because it was still hacked.

But there is nothing "wrong" with doing it.
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7.) Just don't worry about it if someone uses hacks or you think someone uses hacks go to refernce sorces ex.Serebii.net, A Pokedex book. Or just ask them to trade with you and record their pokemon's stats run them by the sources I gave above. then post it on youtube to revel the hacker so no one will battle him(that dose not always work though)
 
I openly admit that I use Pokesav. It really depends on how they use it. If they use it for 31 IVs across the board, implementing EVs more than 510 and illeal movesets, then that is wrong. But if Pokesav is used to shorten the amount of time breeding takes by giving decent IVs and training yourself with legal sets, then I find it perfectly fine. That is what I do, and whe I battle with them no one seems to care.
 
Since I am bored with these type of threads, I shall spend all my time trying to translate that with my 4 month-old spanish xD
 
Here's how I see it. If the moveset is legal and the stats are legal and you don't have more than 510 EVs on your Pokémon total, then I don't care. Yes, it takes the fun out of it, but there's a price for everything. They can't say that they've bred a Pokémon with nearly perfect stats and a nearly perfect nature for it. They can't say that, but they don't care.

There's the rant. My point - if the moves and stats are legal, then do what you will. Just don't be so obvious. Using all shinies, Pokémon outrunning things they shouldn't, excessive use of Hidden Power (especially if the HP is almost always the right type).
 
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