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that's an opinion ._.
Its not an opinion since the better one would be in the dex and yours isent.
Those moves where just thrown togethor and is basically the same as the one in dex so it doesnt matter. Any poke with psych up can do the same thing besides not being as fast.
They can make up with priority moves like absol who has a higher attack. Absol could have a moveset of Suckerpunch/psychup/battonpass/xscissor with 252speed/252att spread and a focus sash. With a higher attack and a priority move its better for stealing the stats and can batton pass the stat ups.
Those moves where just thrown togethor and is basically the same as the one in dex so it doesnt matter. Any poke with psych up can do the same thing besides not being as fast.
They can make up with priority moves like absol who has a higher attack. Absol could have a moveset of Suckerpunch/psychup/battonpass/xscissor with 252speed/252att spread and a focus sash. With a higher attack and a priority move its better for stealing the stats and can batton pass the stat ups.
but its slower so can be KOed before able to pass duh
Maybe I should write that set out better since its not in the dex and could use some opinions. Well I guess I will since im bored.
Absol
super luck/pressure(watever you prefer really)
jolly/adamant
evs 252att/252speed/6hp
focus sash
-sucker punch
-baton pass
-psych up
-xscissor/psycho cut/shadow claw etc.
Notes:
I made this set cause that paulmcartney guy was pissing me off.
Anyways use this against an opponent that has set up against you psych up survive with focus sash and use suckerpunch to beat them. Once you KO that poke you can baton pass the stat ups if your faster then the opponents next sent out poke. Toss up on nature really. Last move can really be anything. Havent tried it out yet but it seems like it can be good. Sorry if this sucks but its not in the dex (I guess the trap passer is somewhat the same) and looks like a good idea.
Okay i'll explain this to you. You KO the poke you psych up with sucker punch. If the opponent switches in slower poke, after you KO the poke you pysched up on, you can baton pass the stats since you will be faster or you can continue attacking.
Wow! A Weezing gimmick set! Possible with its terrible movepool? Hell, yes.
Well, as for those of you who visited my RMT awhile back may have seen....
....this set actually has a chance to be pretty effective in ADV. If you want to use it in D/P, only use it for crap like Miltank or random stall teams.
This set utilizes Spite, and Weezing is one of the bulkiest users of this annoying move, as well as packing a useful immunity to Toxic.
Set Name: PP Death
Ability: Levitate
Item: Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/6 Spd
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Screech/Will-O-Wisp
- Sludge Bomb
- Destiny Bond/Explosion
- Spite
I originally designed this set specifically to combat certain stallers, clerics, physical Rest Talkers (albeit rare...) and Substitute (Sub does not block Spite). All of these moves have somewhat low PP, even with PP Ups, but each point extremely valuable. Weezing's lack of healing other than Pain Split hurts its viability, but it could work. It requires a lot of support to the point where Spite ends up being the only real unconventional move if you choose to use it, but with that support, the other two options are just as effective, if not more, and has the element of surprise.
Screech can force switches and works best with Stealth Rock support. Since Sludge Bomb is now special, though, Screech is less useful, making WoW a good option. Sludge Bomb itself will poison things and lure the very moves you want to Spite.
The choice between Destiny Bond and Explosion depends on whether or not you enjoy the guesswork involved in blowing up, or prevent your opponents from KOing you while either the burn or poison damage kill them. If you have some way of getting Speed on Weezing, go ahead and use Destiny Bond.
And then we come to Spite. On the turn your opponent uses said valuable move, fire off Spite since Weezing will likely be slower, and watch them grimace at losing 5 PP instead of just 1. It doesn't look like much, but its real beauty will show as the damage just piles up. Rest, Heal Bell, Sub, auto-heal, and Sleep Talk are all example of moves that should be targeted. If the opponent is really stupid, keep it in against physical Choicers and Life Orbers and reduce the PP of moves like Close Combat, Stone Edge and Earthquake.
Obviously, what makes this sucky is that most of the targets will also have some kind of special move to slam Weezing with, and the difficulty in pulling it off without Weezing getting killed or the opponent switching out. But it's fun to look at what kind of possibilities can result....it can even do a lot of damage against any stall team if certain key Pokemon are dead.
Well, as for those of you who visited my RMT awhile back may have seen....
....this set actually has a chance to be pretty effective in ADV. If you want to use it in D/P, only use it for crap like Miltank or random stall teams.
This set utilizes Spite, and Weezing is one of the bulkiest users of this annoying move, as well as packing a useful immunity to Toxic.
Set Name: PP Death
Ability: Levitate
Item: Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/6 Spd
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Screech/Will-O-Wisp
- Sludge Bomb
- Destiny Bond/Explosion
- Spite
I originally designed this set specifically to combat certain stallers, clerics, physical Rest Talkers (albeit rare...) and Substitute (Sub does not block Spite). All of these moves have somewhat low PP, even with PP Ups, but each point extremely valuable. Weezing's lack of healing other than Pain Split hurts its viability, but it could work. It requires a lot of support to the point where Spite ends up being the only real unconventional move if you choose to use it, but with that support, the other two options are just as effective, if not more, and has the element of surprise.
Screech can force switches and works best with Stealth Rock support. Since Sludge Bomb is now special, though, Screech is less useful, making WoW a good option. Sludge Bomb itself will poison things and lure the very moves you want to Spite.
The choice between Destiny Bond and Explosion depends on whether or not you enjoy the guesswork involved in blowing up, or prevent your opponents from KOing you while either the burn or poison damage kill them. If you have some way of getting Speed on Weezing, go ahead and use Destiny Bond.
And then we come to Spite. On the turn your opponent uses said valuable move, fire off Spite since Weezing will likely be slower, and watch them grimace at losing 5 PP instead of just 1. It doesn't look like much, but its real beauty will show as the damage just piles up. Rest, Heal Bell, Sub, auto-heal, and Sleep Talk are all example of moves that should be targeted. If the opponent is really stupid, keep it in against physical Choicers and Life Orbers and reduce the PP of moves like Close Combat, Stone Edge and Earthquake.
Obviously, what makes this sucky is that most of the targets will also have some kind of special move to slam Weezing with, and the difficulty in pulling it off without Weezing getting killed or the opponent switching out. But it's fun to look at what kind of possibilities can result....it can even do a lot of damage against any stall team if certain key Pokemon are dead.
Choice Scarf Lucario, one thing that Lucario is missing is speed, so it needs to have priority moves, and many times they arent very effective against pokemons that have a full hp, outruns him and that are counters just because of speed, so this is my set.
Lucario
move 1: CLose Combat
Main Sab move for a hit and run set.
move 2: Crunch
with a great speed W/c scarf it can outrun Gengar and Starmie
move 3: Hidden Power Ice
Covers the classic dragon counter of Lucario: Garchomp, Dragonite, Flygon, Salamence and also Gliscor ( even if it is not a dragon)
move 4: Blaze Kick / Stone Edge
Blaze Kick hurts some steel types with supereffective hits instead of nuetral...
Stone edge is for hitting Gyarados, that will be probably countering Lucario
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Inner Focus
nature(s): Lonely/ Naughty
evs: 0 hp / 252 atk / 0 def / 40 spatk / spdef / 218 spd
Max attack ( 350 )
270 speed + choice scarf = 405 speed
40 in sp attk (more or less 275) to boost hidden power capabilities
As you may know Lucario has a potential of a late game sweeper, with an unpredictable roll, until the first move is done, but when your opponent discovers the set you are running it is more easily countered, so thats why this is a mix set for a surprise. It just need some prediction and it is more like a revenge killer/mid-game sweeper set.
Any opinion?
Lucario
move 1: CLose Combat
Main Sab move for a hit and run set.
move 2: Crunch
with a great speed W/c scarf it can outrun Gengar and Starmie
move 3: Hidden Power Ice
Covers the classic dragon counter of Lucario: Garchomp, Dragonite, Flygon, Salamence and also Gliscor ( even if it is not a dragon)
move 4: Blaze Kick / Stone Edge
Blaze Kick hurts some steel types with supereffective hits instead of nuetral...
Stone edge is for hitting Gyarados, that will be probably countering Lucario
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Inner Focus
nature(s): Lonely/ Naughty
evs: 0 hp / 252 atk / 0 def / 40 spatk / spdef / 218 spd
Max attack ( 350 )
270 speed + choice scarf = 405 speed
40 in sp attk (more or less 275) to boost hidden power capabilities
As you may know Lucario has a potential of a late game sweeper, with an unpredictable roll, until the first move is done, but when your opponent discovers the set you are running it is more easily countered, so thats why this is a mix set for a surprise. It just need some prediction and it is more like a revenge killer/mid-game sweeper set.
Any opinion?
I tried this once and actually surprised a bunch of people:
Blissey @ Choice Scarf
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 Spe, 252 Spa
~Flamethrower
~Thunderbolt
~Ice Beam
~Seismic Toss
This Blissey makes for an okay revenge killer with awesome coverage. It hits every pokemon in the game for neutral at least. It surprises a ton of people, thinking that their Magnezone, or Adamant Chomp, or weakened Lucario, or Forretress or Scizor or Gyarados or whatever will outspeed Blissey and easily KO it. It's purely novel, but still pretty cool.
Oh, and me like the Lucario Xrinix. I'm going to try it and get back to you.
Blissey @ Choice Scarf
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 Spe, 252 Spa
~Flamethrower
~Thunderbolt
~Ice Beam
~Seismic Toss
This Blissey makes for an okay revenge killer with awesome coverage. It hits every pokemon in the game for neutral at least. It surprises a ton of people, thinking that their Magnezone, or Adamant Chomp, or weakened Lucario, or Forretress or Scizor or Gyarados or whatever will outspeed Blissey and easily KO it. It's purely novel, but still pretty cool.
Oh, and me like the Lucario Xrinix. I'm going to try it and get back to you.
You're probably trolling, but I can safely say that it's not gonna work, I mean, you're trying to kill something you can't even OHKO, so I can't really call it "revenge killing".
lmao... is that Blissey set real?
I've actually been swept by something like this before. Except it had Flail to take advantage of the sash. I can see this working with something that resists sandstorm maybe... I will look into it.
I've actually been swept by something like this before. Except it had Flail to take advantage of the sash. I can see this working with something that resists sandstorm maybe... I will look into it.
Solid set, but just to be nitpicky, his attack would be 349 instead of 350 because of HP Ice. Just something to factor into calculations.
I've used a similiar Absol:
Swagger
Psych Up
Punishment
Baton Pass/Psycho Cut
It worked quite well against less skilled players, although switches easily nulify it
@Up
Actually, you can obtain HP Ice with 30/31/30/31/31/31
Man, been forever since I've posted here. Been busy with Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Darkness and other things on this end.
I recently got my hands on Mew and started tweaking with its moveset. I came up with this while at work and just putting it out there to see if it flies or what people think of it. I looked at what was said in the Analysis before posting.
So far, this is what I got>
Name: C-Scarf Mew
Item: Choice Scarf
Moveset:
Dark Pulse/Ancientpower/Silver Wind/etc.
Psychic
Focus Blast
U-Turn
EV Spread> Sp. Att. = 252 / Speed = 126 / Attack or HP = 126
Again, I haven't done any damage calcs or anything but I would like input before I start working on it fully. I am a bit paranoid from the CScarf Gallade I posted a while back that this already been thought up.
I recently got my hands on Mew and started tweaking with its moveset. I came up with this while at work and just putting it out there to see if it flies or what people think of it. I looked at what was said in the Analysis before posting.
So far, this is what I got>
Name: C-Scarf Mew
Item: Choice Scarf
Moveset:
Dark Pulse/Ancientpower/Silver Wind/etc.
Psychic
Focus Blast
U-Turn
EV Spread> Sp. Att. = 252 / Speed = 126 / Attack or HP = 126
Again, I haven't done any damage calcs or anything but I would like input before I start working on it fully. I am a bit paranoid from the CScarf Gallade I posted a while back that this already been thought up.
Cursenoir
Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Nature: Sassy
Evs: 252 HP / 252 Special Defense / 6 Attack
Curse
Rest
Sleep Talk
Shadow Punch / Night Shade / Payback / ThunderPunch
Following the footsteps of Suicune. Simply Curse up and Rest off the damage. The last attack is filler. ThunderPunch will 2HKO Gyarados and 1HKO him after 1 Curse. Night Shade is a guaranteed 100 damage so you can focus only on Defenses if you use it. Payback will almost always be at double power and Shaodw Punch is a reliable stab.
Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Nature: Sassy
Evs: 252 HP / 252 Special Defense / 6 Attack
Curse
Rest
Sleep Talk
Shadow Punch / Night Shade / Payback / ThunderPunch
Following the footsteps of Suicune. Simply Curse up and Rest off the damage. The last attack is filler. ThunderPunch will 2HKO Gyarados and 1HKO him after 1 Curse. Night Shade is a guaranteed 100 damage so you can focus only on Defenses if you use it. Payback will almost always be at double power and Shaodw Punch is a reliable stab.
That was my thought but than I realized people wouldn't expect it so I started looking at it seriously as a least a Gimmick if nothing else.
This blissey set works wonders! I revenged killed a Garchomp after it set up sword dance. Seismic Toss is good late game when stuff is weakened.
*snickers* Other pokemon laugh at this set. You had the right idea...I think, but Curse will lower your HP by half, and deal damage to the opponent every turn. If you wanted that, then you should just set up Spikes/Toxic Spikes/Stealth Rocks without the reducing of your own HP.
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