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Typhlito

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#51
Got a list of move changes for you

Part 1
Venusaur
+ Giga Drain/Razor Leaf(stab move), Earthquake(fine in curse/SD set)

Charizard
+ Double edge, brick break, Rock slide, aerial ace
- iron tail (decently strong but its other moves are more useful)

Blastoise
+ Haze, Yawn (utility), hydro pump (alt stab)

Butterfree
+ Toxic

Beedrill
+ Endeavor, Endure, twin needle

Pidgeot
+ Aerial ace/Air cutter (frees up hidden power), HP ground, Double edge, Quick attack, Steel wing
- Pursuit (has an ok sp atk but eh...)

Raticate
+ Endeavor, Endure, Reversal

Fearow
+ Endure, Flail, Double edge

Arbok
+ Glare

Pikachu (light ball)
+ Hidden Power Ice, Hidden Power Grass, Thunderbolt/Volt Tackle, Encore, Substitute, Surf, Agility

Raichu
+ Encore, Hidden Power Grass, Wish, Reversal/Focus Punch/Brick Break, Rain Dance, Thunder
- Body Slam (better off attacking or using status moves)

Nidoqueen
+ Roar, Rest, Sleep Talk, Toxic, Substitute, Counter (She is fat. These take advantage of that)
- Superpower (not the best on queen when eq does just as well)

Nidoking
+Thunder (alt for tbolt)

Clefable
+Thunder Wave, Toxic, Seismic Toss, Reflect, Light Screen (more great moves for her huge list)

Ninetales
+Grudge(great suicide move), Hidden Power Grass

Wigglytuff
+ Reflect, Light Screen, Sing, Charm, Return, Thunder Bolt, Ice Beam, Fire Blast (usable sp atk)
- Facade (Return is generally better),

Vileplume
+Swords Dance, Moonlight, Sleep Powder, Aromatherapy

Parasect
+ Hidden Power Bug/Rock/Fire, Growth

Venomoth
+ Silver Wind, Stun Spore, Toxic, Hidden Power Rock

Dugtrio
+Sludge Bomb

Persian
+ Double Edge

Golduck
+ Cross Chop, Hidden Power Electric, Psychic

Primape
+ Substitute, Focus Punch, Hidden Power Flying, Hidden Power Ghost, Bulk Up, Endure, Reversal
- Toxic (Would rather attack)

Arcanine
+ Hidden Power Fighting, Howl, Double Edge, Iron Tail, Crunch, Body Slam/Return (Makes use of great atk stat)

Poliwrath
+ Belly Drum, Substitute, Hypnosis, Rock Tomb, Focus Punch, Rest, Sleep Talk

Alakazam
+ Trick, Focus Punch/Brick Break, Reflect, Light Screen

Machamp
+ Facade, Encore

Victreebel
+ Hidden Power Fire, Hidden Power Ice, Encore, Growth, Solar Beam, Giga Drain

Tentacruel
+ Substitute, Swords Dance, Mirror Coat, Barrier, Hidden Power Ground

Golem
+Toxic, Rest, Sleep Talk, Rock Blast, Body Slam, Brick Break/Focus Punch

Rapidash
+ Hidden Power Ice, Hidden Power Rock, Hidden Power Fighting, Quick Attack, Hypnosis, Flamethrower, Overheat, Iron Tail, Sunny Day, Solar Beam

Slowbro
+ Thunder Wave, Substitute, Focus Punch, Curse, Earthquake, Counter, Yawn

Magneton
+Hidden Power Fire, Metal Sound, Screech, Endure, Substitute

Farfetch'd
+ Knock Off, Baton Pass, Hidden Power Ghost, Aerial Ace, Wish, Yawn
- Shadow Ball (Doesn't get it)

Dewgong
+ Encore, Body Slam, Hidden Power Electric

Muk
+ Explosion, Substitute, Focus Punch, Hidden Power Ghost, Hidden Power Grass, Body Slam, Mean Look

Cloyster
+ Icy Wind, Hidden Power Electric, Rest

Gengar
+ Substitute, Focus Punch, Giga Drain, Grudge

Hypo
+ Wish, Thunder Wave, Seismic Toss, Reflect, Protect, Counter, Light Screen, Substitute, Baton Pass

Hitmonlee
+ Rapid Spin

Hitmonchan
+ Sky Uppercut
- Hi Jump Kick (riskier than sky uppercut)

Lickitung
+ Toxic, Body Slam, Return, Curse, Brick Break, Protect

Rhydon
+ Rock Blast, Hidden Power Bug, Swords Dance

Kangaskan
+ Counter, Substitute, Focus Punch, Protect, Toxic, Roar

Seaking
+ Hidden Power Electric, Hidden Power Ground, Double Edge, Agility

Starmie
+ Hydro Pump, Hidden Power Grass, Light Screen, Reflect

Electabuzz
+ Psychic

Magmar
+ Hidden Power Grass

Pinsir
+ Hidden Power Bug, Bulk Up, Substitute, Endure, Flail

Tauros
+ Iron Tail

Gyrados
+ Thunder, Fire Blast (completes special gyra)

Lapras
+ Rest, Sleep Talk, Roar, Hidden Power Ground, Toxic

Vaporeon
+ Hidden Power Electric, Substitute, Baton Pass, Haze, Acid Armor

Flareon
+ Hidden Power Fighting, Curse, Wish, Baton Pass, Substitute

Kabutops
+ Knock Off, Rain Dance, Surf, Hidden Power Ground

Snorlax
+ Curse, Body Slam

Zapdos
+ Hidden Power Grass, Rest, Sleep Talk, Thunder, Drill Peck, Light Screen, Metal Sound

Dragonite
+ Double Edge, Rest, Sleep Talk, Toxic, Dragon Claw

Mew
+ Hidden Power Dark, Bulk Up, Light Screen, Reflect, Taunt
 
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HoeenHero

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#53
Hard to say, i've been a pretty busy and haven't actually gotten a chance to start the code yet, though its a high priority.
 
#54
Here's some ideas for a few more obscure Pokemon from Gen 3

Dewgong: Rest, Sleep Talk, Surf, Ice Beam, Hail, Rain Dance, Hidden Power Ground, Toxic

Seaking: Agility, Surf, Ice Beam, Toxic, Supersonic, Double-Edge, Horn Drill

Aerodactyl: Swords Dance, Agility, Rock Slide, Rock Tomb, Fly, Earthquake

Shuckle: Encore, Toxic, Rollout, Protect, Substitute, Rest, Sleep Talk

Aggron: Thunder Wave, Iron Tail, Double-Edge, Earthquake, Rock Slide, Protect, Iron Defense

Just wanted to contribute a little bit. A little rusty with Gen 3 but hope this helps somehow. I saw some earlier posts that were much more comprehensive.
 

dwarfstar

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#55
Here's some ideas for a few more obscure Pokemon from Gen 3

Dewgong: Rest, Sleep Talk, Surf, Ice Beam, Hail, Rain Dance, Hidden Power Ground, Toxic

Seaking: Agility, Surf, Ice Beam, Toxic, Supersonic, Double-Edge, Horn Drill

Aerodactyl: Swords Dance, Agility, Rock Slide, Rock Tomb, Fly, Earthquake

Shuckle: Encore, Toxic, Rollout, Protect, Substitute, Rest, Sleep Talk

Aggron: Thunder Wave, Iron Tail, Double-Edge, Earthquake, Rock Slide, Protect, Iron Defense

Just wanted to contribute a little bit. A little rusty with Gen 3 but hope this helps somehow. I saw some earlier posts that were much more comprehensive.
Seaking: Horn Drill is banned in competitive play, so we wouldn't be adding it in randbats. Supersonic is way too unreliable to bother with.

Aerodactyl: Fly is kinda useless, Rock Tomb is so weak that the speed drop isn't enough to compensate for it in terms of utility, Agility is more or less pointless because almost nothing outspeeds Aero naturally and it can't BP it to a teammate, and it can't even learn Swords Dance. Rock Slide and Earthquake are already in its randbats movepool.

Shuckle: Most of those moves are already in its movepool. I don't have enough experience with ADV Shuckle to know if there's any point at all to Substitute (I'm inclined to doubt it given how much it needs its recovery, Toxic, and Encore), but Rollout takes too long to get going and doesn't hit all that hard off Shuckle's garbage Attack stat even once it does.

Aggron: Thunder Wave, Iron Tail, Rock Slide, and Earthquake are already in its randbats movepool. Double-Edge is fairly strong but doesn't really achieve any important KOs that its other offensive moves don't already, and can't be used to cripple a team like T-wave can. Protect isn't that good on it because it needs its other moveslots too badly, and Iron Defense is kinda questionable.
 

Tiksi

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#56
I would reccomend keeping Double Edge on Aggron since it's powerful (more than Rock Slide), reliable, and comes off Rock Head; the coverage on Fightings and Grounds also helps some. The KO calcs are likely changed also since all mons are 84/84/84 bulk invested in randbats.
 

HoeenHero

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#57
Hey vaporterra when you submit movepools suggestions, could you do it in the format i posted in the OP please? It makes things so much easier :)

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Concering programming of this, im sick atm so its not moving, sorry for the delay. Ill start again when im well.
 

Typhlito

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#58
Part 2 GSC Edition

Meganium
+ Giga Drain, Grass Whistle (only slightly less accurate than hypnosis), Sunny Day, Solar Beam

Typhlosion
+ Focus Punch, Reversal (with sub), Howl (gimmicky but could work in randbats), Overheat

Feraligatr
+ Hydro Pump, Surf (stabs), Brick Break, Focus Punch

Furret
+ Toxic, Protect, Substitute, Reversal

Noctowl
+ Feint Attack, Hidden Power Dark/Fire/Ice/Grass, Toxic, Rest, Sleep Talk

Ladian
+ Hidden Power Bug/Flying, Aerial Ace (makes use of its own SD), Toxic, Reflect

Ariados
+ Giga Drain, Toxic

Crobat
+ Haze

Lanturn
+ Confuse Ray, Substitute

Togetic
+ Ancient Power (serene grace), Fire Blast, Yawn, Thunder Wave, Hidden Power Flying/Grass, Light Screen, Reflect
- Focus Punch, Shadow Ball (even with an ancient power boost and/or hustle, its not that strong so it should stick with its stabs to use as much power as possible)

Xatu
+ Hidden Power Fire, Rest (early bird), Feint Attack, Haze,

Ampharos
+ Counter

Bellosom
+ Sunny Day, Solar Beam, Razor Leaf, Hidden Power Fire/Grass/Ice, Swords Dance

Azumarril
+ Iron Tail, Icy Wind, Perish Song, Belly Drum, Brick Break, Light Screen

Sudowoodo
+ Counter
~IT GETS CALM MIND!~

Politoad
+ Psychic, Toxic

Jumpluff
+ Swords Dance, Protect, Stun Spore, Giga Drain

Aipom
+ Thief (itemless), Counter, Substitute, Agility, Seismic Toss

Sunflora
+ Grass Whistle, Light Screen

Yamna
+ Hidden Power Rock, Silver Wind, Shadow Ball

Quagsire
+ Hidden Power Rock, Ancient Power, Yawn, Haze, Sludge Bomb

Espeon
+ Bite, Hidden Power Water

Umbreon
+ Rest, Sleep Talk, Moonlight, Shadow Ball, Hidden Power Fighting (uses its own curse), Pursuit, Torment

Murkrow
+ Pursuit, Double Edge, Steel Wing

Slowking
+ Substitute, Focus Punch, Curse, Earthquake, Shadow Ball, Yawn

Misdreavus
+ Destiny Bond, Imprison, Pain Split, Grudge

Unown
+ Hidden Power Fighting/Dark

Wobbuffet
+ Destiny Bond

Girafarig
+ Rest (worse than wish but takes advantage of early bird), Double Edge, Return, Body Slam

Forretress
+ Hidden Power Ghost/Flying/Steel, Zap Cannon, Reflect

Dunsparce
+ Glare, Ancient Power, Yawn, Water Pulse, Ice Beam, Counter

Gligar
+ Substitute, Quick Attack

Granbull
+ Bulk Up, Rest, Sleep Talk (works with heal bell), Roar

Quilfish
+ Ice Beam, Endure, Flail, Rain Dance

Scizor
+ Edure, Reversal, Hidden Power Ghost, Quick Attack, Double Edge

Shuckle
+ Defense Curl, Rollout (meh but at least it could do some actual damage)

Heracross
+ Facade, Hidden Power Ghost, Bulk Up, Counter

Sneasel
+ Fake Out

Ursaring
+ Facade, Bulk Up

Magcargo
+ Hidden Power Grass, Fire Blast, Overheat, Self Destruct, Rock Slide, Reflect, Light Screen, Yawn

Piloswine
+ Blizzard (needs all the power it could get), Hidden Power Bug/Flying, Light Screen, Reflect

Corsola
+ Ice Beam, Psychic, Reflect, Light Screen, Mirror Coat, Rock Blast, Hidden Power Rock/Fighting/Electric, Ancient Power, Explosion, Shadow Ball, Earthquake (physical moves except maybe explosion should be strictly used with hustle)
- Refresh (has natural cure)

Octillery
+ Fire Blast, Hidden Power Fighting

Delibird
+ Hidden Power Ground, Rapid Spin, Toxic, Thief (itemless), Double Edge

Mantine
+ Confuse Ray

Skarmory
+ Sleep Talk, Curse, Hidden Power Ground, Thief (itemless)

Houndoom
+ Rest (early bird), Sunny Day, Solar Beam, Toxic

Kingdra
+ Hidden Power Electric, Substitute, Flail

Donphan
+ Protect, Hidden Power Flying/Ghost

Porygon 2
+ Tri-Attack, Conversion 2

Stantler
+ Psychic, Hidden Power Ice, Thunder Wave, Toxic

Smergle
+ Endeavor, Knock Off
- Ingrain (banned with baton pass)

Miltank
+ Brick Break

Blissey
+ Aromatherapy, Sing

Raikou
+ Thunder Wave

Entei
+ Hidden Power Fighting, Toxic

Suicune
+ Mirror Coat, Hidden Power Electric, Reflect

Tyrantiar
+ Substitute, Focus Punch, Curse, Double Edge, Thunder Wave

Lugia
+ Thunderbolt, Shadow Ball, Substitute

Ho-oh
+ Calm Mind, Substitute, Shadow Ball, Hidden Power Rock, Sunny Day, Solar Beam, Thunderbolt

Celebi
+ Giga Drain, Hidden Power Fire, Light Screen, Reflect, Perish Song


Part 3 coming soon!
 

HoeenHero

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#60
No sets are missing at the moment, i've just been busy inrl which is why this isn't programmed yet. If your interested in helping out you could suggest changes to existing sets, or maybe contribute in code (DM me if interested in the code part)
 

HoeenHero

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#61
Hey guys good news, I got the scripts done and a beta is available on spacialgaze!

Ill be updating the movepools again soon (I wanted to finish the scripts before doing that).
If you see any weird sets, or sets that dont work, or anything that shouldn't be legal (no megas in gen 3 either ;) ), post it here and I'll see what I can do.
 

Tiksi

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#62
After doing some SG testing, some bugs and suggestions and such ("have" means "have in its movepool"):

ResTalk should be removed from Parasect, its pretty difficult to tank with that typing/stat spread and sporing/attacking is preferable
Raticate should have a STAB more consistent than Facade (Return? Double-Edge? both?)
Nidoking rolled Sludge Bomb twice
Nosepass should have Rock Slide (STAB)
Feraligatr should have a STAB (Hydro Pump? Surf?)
Solar Beam shouldn't exist without Sunny Day or Drought
Razor Leaf + Solar Beam shouldn't exist
Got Endure Gligar without any move/item that Endure helps; either he should get like Salac in that case or he shouldn't have Endure
Quick Claw + Whirlwind/Roar shouldn't exist
DD should require a physical move
Flail should require either Sub or Endure
Fire Blast + Overheat shouldn't exist
Aerial Ace + HP Flying shouldn't exist
Rock Slide + HP Rock shouldn't exist
 
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HoeenHero

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#63
- Added missing movepools for Manetric, and Roselia
- Frustration -> Return
- Various Script fixes

Will update movepools further soon.
 
#64
HP Ghost should be removed from Lapras, seems like random coverage and a dual STAB such as Ice Beam would be better
Electrode should have HP Ice over Sub
I got Early Bird as ability on Shiftry instead of Chlorophyll when the set was Shadow Ball, Sunny Day, Brick Break, Solar Beam
Bug STAB On Pinsir( HP Bug) instead of HP Ghost
Surf SD Rest Talk Kingler should not exist
Random Endure on rest talk megahorn Heracross should not exist
 

Tiksi

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#65
After some more testing:
Rain Dance + Rest shouldn't be a combination (or something else to prevent Rest Sleep Talk Rain Dance HP Grass Kingdra)
Swalot can currently get HP Grass and Giga Drain, but Ice Beam is usually better than either; one or both of the grass moves should be removed
HP Grass + Giga Drain shouldn't exist
If possible, Perish Song should force Mean Look
Nidoqueen feels a little fast for Quick Claw
Light Screen seems not that helpful on Machamp
Sceptile got Substitute twice
Aerial Ace Ice Beam Taunt BP Absol isn't great but a good way to fix it isnt coming to mind
Not sure if Disable + boosting move should be a combination
If Yanma hasn't rolled another HP type, it should get HP Flying instead of Aerial Ace (this can probably be applied more generally)
Swords Dance + Counter shouldn't exist
Earthquake + Bonemerang shouldn't exist
Disable + Hypnosis shouldn't exist
not sure why Zapdos gets Extrasensory
 
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Tiksi

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#67
It's on main server now! huzzah!

Since corsola already has natural cure, it should drop refresh from the movepool and get ice beam.
Speed boost shouldn't go with Salac Berry (liechi maybe?)
Overall it feels like choice band should be rather more common, i imagine the presence of utility moves (eg rapid spin on armaldo) are to blame. those moves shouldn't be axed, but there should be a way to increase odds of all 4 moves being powerful physical attacks and therefore getting band
 

HoeenHero

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#70
#71
Just got Solarbeam on Non-Chlorophyll, Non-Sunny Day Shiftry; not the most helpful of options!

Also Wobbuffet should have both Mirror Coat & Counter as mandatory, just got one without the former
 

HoeenHero

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#72
Just got Solarbeam on Non-Chlorophyll, Non-Sunny Day Shiftry; not the most helpful of options!
Most likely, the movepool was emptied out as it was trying to find a sutible move. Also did you possibly have a different pokemon with sunny day?
 
#74
Bright Powder and Quick Claw shouldn't exist, replace them both with Leftovers or a suitable item.

Sitrus Berry shouldn't exist (heals 30 HP instead of a quarter of max), replace it with Leftovers or a pinch berry.

If a pinch berry and Substitute is on the set, force max HP to be divisible by 4.
 
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Tiksi

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#75
Venusaur should have EQ to pair with SD on Curse/SD/whatever
Body Slam+Double Edge doesn't exist
Bright Powder and Quick Claw shouldn't exist, replace them both with Leftovers or a suitable item.
remember that the list of other suitable items in gen3 is pretty much Choice Band (which mixed sets and those with things like rapid spin won't have) and maybe chesto berry for Rest users unless i'm missing something

oh forgot pinch berries and i guess? lum
 
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