[READ ME] Tips for Simple Hack Checks

pilica12

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Language: jap
Species: Genesect
OT: jap
ID No.: 07133
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
EVs (optional): none
Ability: Download
Pokemon's name: jap
Gender: none
Level: 100
Pokeball: Cherishball
Shiny?: yes
Pentagon/Cross? (if yes, specify): none
Moves: Technoblast / Shift Gear / Extreme Speed / Blaze Kick
Nature: hasty
Region of origin: Unova / fatefull encounter
Characteristic: likes to thrash about
Ribbons: Wishing Ribbon
Other comments (optional):
Just on inspection of the given data, the Pokemon appears fine, matching the Shiny Genesect event from Gen V. It could very well have been attained via RNG abuse, but likewise might not have. Do you know where/from whom you obtained it from?
 
I am in Ultra Moon and got a wonder traded ditto I want to know if it is hacked or not.
Language: JPN
Species: Ditto
OT: PKSM
ID No.: 993401
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Ability: Limber
Pokemon's name: Its in Japanese so I have no idea(this is not the name)
Gender: Genderless
Level: 100
Pokeball: Pokeball
Shiny?: No
Pentagon?: No
Moves: 1) Transform
Nature: Quirky
Region of origin: Alola (Mount Hokulani)
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ribbons: None
 
Welcome to Smogon! It's almost assuredly hacked (you don't know where it came from and OT info is sketchy at best). It's against the rules to trade hacked Pokemon or those bred from them here, so personally I wouldn't bother using it for anything.
Ok, thanks. I guess I can use it for roulettes and hackmons unfortunately it is hacked it would've been great for competitive breeding and thanks for the welcome.
 
I wish to know if all three of these GTS pokemon are not hacked. This is all in Ultra Moon.
Language: JPN
Species: Aegislash
OT: Its in Japanese so I have no idea(this is not the name)
ID No.: 278583
IVs: 20/12/31/31/31/31
Ability: Stance Change
Pokemon's name: Its in Japanese so I have no idea(this is not the name)
Gender: Male
Level: 38
Pokeball: Pokeball
Shiny?: No
Pentagon?: No
Moves: 1) Night Slash
Moves: 2) Swords Dance
Moves: 3) Slash
Moves: 4) Shadow Sneak
Nature: Adamant
Region of origin: Alola (Paniola Ranch (hatched from an egg))
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ribbons: None


Language: SPA
Species: Shuckle
OT: Charizard32
ID No.: 993401
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Ability: Sturdy
Pokemon's name: Shuckle
Gender: Male
Level: 100
Pokeball: Pokeball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon?: No
Moves: 1) Rock Slide
Moves: 2) Sludge Bomb
Moves: 3) Rock Tomb
Moves: 4) Toxic
Nature: Bold
Region of origin: Alola (Paniola Ranch (hatched from an egg))
Characteristic: Takes plenty of fiestas
Ribbons: Alola Champion Ribbon Battle Tree Great Ribbon


Language: GER
Species: Bergmite
OT: Olli
ID No.: 661679
IVs: 14/5/30/16/31/31
Ability: Sturdy
Pokemon's name: Arktip
Gender: Male
Level: 6
Pokeball: Pokeball
Shiny?: No
Pentagon?: No
Moves: 1) Tackle
Moves: 2) Bite
Moves: 3) Powder Snow
Moves: 4) Recover
Nature: Brave
Region of origin: Alola (Paniola Ranch (hatched from an egg))
Characteristic: Alert to Sounds
Ribbons: None
 

pilica12

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I wish to know if all three of these GTS pokemon are not hacked. This is all in Ultra Moon.
Language: JPN
Species: Aegislash
OT: Its in Japanese so I have no idea(this is not the name)
ID No.: 278583
IVs: 20/12/31/31/31/31
Ability: Stance Change
Pokemon's name: Its in Japanese so I have no idea(this is not the name)
Gender: Male
Level: 38
Pokeball: Pokeball
Shiny?: No
Pentagon?: No
Moves: 1) Night Slash
Moves: 2) Swords Dance
Moves: 3) Slash
Moves: 4) Shadow Sneak
Nature: Adamant
Region of origin: Alola (Paniola Ranch (hatched from an egg))
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ribbons: None


Language: SPA
Species: Shuckle
OT: Charizard32
ID No.: 993401
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Ability: Sturdy
Pokemon's name: Shuckle
Gender: Male
Level: 100
Pokeball: Pokeball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon?: No
Moves: 1) Rock Slide
Moves: 2) Sludge Bomb
Moves: 3) Rock Tomb
Moves: 4) Toxic
Nature: Bold
Region of origin: Alola (Paniola Ranch (hatched from an egg))
Characteristic: Takes plenty of fiestas
Ribbons: Alola Champion Ribbon Battle Tree Great Ribbon


Language: GER
Species: Bergmite
OT: Olli
ID No.: 661679
IVs: 14/5/30/16/31/31
Ability: Sturdy
Pokemon's name: Arktip
Gender: Male
Level: 6
Pokeball: Pokeball
Shiny?: No
Pentagon?: No
Moves: 1) Tackle
Moves: 2) Bite
Moves: 3) Powder Snow
Moves: 4) Recover
Nature: Brave
Region of origin: Alola (Paniola Ranch (hatched from an egg))
Characteristic: Alert to Sounds
Ribbons: None
Aegi and the Bergmite look completely innocuous (non-Shiny, imperfect IVs), so they're probably alright, but I wouldn't trust them (at least with regards to trading on these forums). The Shuckle looks extremely suspicious, though, and I would advise you to treat it with caution. (edit: The Shuckle's TID number is the one that corresponds to PKHeX's default, so it is an essentially 99.9% chance it is hacked.)

A clear verdict on legality (edit: for Aegi and Berg) cannot really be given just on those details, though (a more thorough check would be needed).
 

pilica12

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Ok so to determine legality on Aegislsh and Bergmite what else would you need? Thanks for the reply.
A more thorough check using external methods; however, in seriousness, that is probably a bit overkill given they are both non-Shiny and have imperfect IVs.

Are you looking to use them for official battles or anything?
 

pilica12

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I wanna use them in locals.
That should be safe; in saying that, however, they are nevertheless less-than-ideal for competitive use.

Moderator edit: If you wish to organise trades/services please don't use this thread. Even if it was a very generous offer :)
 
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a while ago i got wonder traded this odd pikachu

presumably it comes from this event, but it has 6 perfect ivs so i was just wondering how legit it probably is

Language: eng
Species: pikachu
OT: Nzone
ID No.: 10278
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
EVs (optional): none
Ability: static
Pokemon's name: Pikachu
Gender: f
Level: 20
Pokeball: cherish ball
Shiny?: no
Pentagon/Cross? (if yes, specify): no
Moves: present / quick attack / thunder shock / tail whip
Nature: bashful
Region of origin: sinnoh
Characteristic: takes plenty of siestas
Ribbons: none

Other comments (optional): n/a
 

pilica12

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a while ago i got wonder traded this odd pikachu

presumably it comes from this event, but it has 6 perfect ivs so i was just wondering how legit it probably is

Language: eng
Species: pikachu
OT: Nzone
ID No.: 10278
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
EVs (optional): none
Ability: static
Pokemon's name: Pikachu
Gender: f
Level: 20
Pokeball: cherish ball
Shiny?: no
Pentagon/Cross? (if yes, specify): no
Moves: present / quick attack / thunder shock / tail whip
Nature: bashful
Region of origin: sinnoh
Characteristic: takes plenty of siestas
Ribbons: none

Other comments (optional): n/a
Can't really see anything wrong with it just on the details alone, and those IVs could possibly have been RNG'd. I'd be very cautious if it is from WT, though. Nevertheless, it is difficult to say anything with finality without a more thorough check.
 
a while ago i got wonder traded this odd pikachu

presumably it comes from this event, but it has 6 perfect ivs so i was just wondering how legit it probably is

Language: eng
Species: pikachu
OT: Nzone
ID No.: 10278
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
EVs (optional): none
Ability: static
Pokemon's name: Pikachu
Gender: f
Level: 20
Pokeball: cherish ball
Shiny?: no
Pentagon/Cross? (if yes, specify): no
Moves: present / quick attack / thunder shock / tail whip
Nature: bashful
Region of origin: sinnoh
Characteristic: takes plenty of siestas
Ribbons: none

Other comments (optional): n/a
Can't really see anything wrong with it just on the details alone, and those IVs could possibly have been RNG'd. I'd be very cautious if it is from WT, though. Nevertheless, it is difficult to say anything with finality without a more thorough check.
well, it's hacked because it doesn't have the Classic ribbon, probably removed to bypass the WT check ^_^
 
About 99% sure this is a hack.

Language: English
Species: Celebi
OT: GF
ID No.: 03016
IVs:
EVs (optional):
Ability: Natural Cure
Pokemon's name: Celebi
Gender: None
Level: 100
Pokeball: Cherish Ball
Shiny?: No
Pentagon/Cross? (if yes, specify): Pentagon
Moves: Confusion, Recover, Heal Bell, Safeguard
Nature: Adamant
Region of origin: A Lovely Place
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional): Came holding a Lucarionite
 

Blueforce

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About 99% sure this is a hack.

Language: English
Species: Celebi
OT: GF
ID No.: 03016
IVs:
EVs (optional):
Ability: Natural Cure
Pokemon's name: Celebi
Gender: None
Level: 100
Pokeball: Cherish Ball
Shiny?: No
Pentagon/Cross? (if yes, specify): Pentagon
Moves: Confusion, Recover, Heal Bell, Safeguard
Nature: Adamant
Region of origin: A Lovely Place
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional): Came holding a Lucarionite
Lack of Classic Ribbon is a dead giveaway, this Celebi is a hack based on this event.
 
Lack of Classic Ribbon is a dead giveaway, this Celebi is a hack based on this event.
That's what I assumed. Release it shall go. Didn't see anything on Serebii mention the ribbons, but assumed it was supposed to have one. I have one more I'm skeptical on.

Language: English
Species: Litwick
OT: ITSK33n.TV
ID No.: 26775
IVs:
EVs (optional):
Ability: Flash Fire
Pokemon's name: Litwick
Gender: None
Level: 5
Pokeball: Poke Ball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon/Cross? (if yes, specify): Pentagon
Moves: Fire Blast, Shadow Ball, Trick Room, Energy Ball
Nature: Quiet
Region of origin: Hoenn (Battle Resort)
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional):
 
I'm looking for legit Mew from either Wondercard or something similar...I've missed all Mew events between 2010-2019. I had obtained years ago one Mew from trading just to find out that it wasn't even legit.

https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=10212334
Does this one look legit?

And other question: Is glitch Mew obtained from RBY illegal to use in SM/USUM? You can glitch it so Pokémon Bank accepts its but it's still kind of... well not hacking but abuse of programming error.

edit: I was thinking it about a little... I guess using glitch Mew would be illegal after all. You also could get Darkrai and Shaymin with glitch in DPP and those were seen as illegal pokémon because it was unreleased event.
 
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Blueforce

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I'm looking for legit Mew from either Wondercard or something similar...I've missed all Mew events between 2010-2019. I had obtained years ago one Mew from trading just to find out that it wasn't even legit.

https://www.pokecheck.org/?pk=10212334
Does this one look legit?

And other question: Is glitch Mew obtained from RBY illegal to use in SM/USUM? You can glitch it so Pokémon Bank accepts its but it's still kind of... well not hacking but abuse of programming error.

edit: I was thinking it about a little... I guess using glitch Mew would be illegal after all. You also could get Darkrai and Shaymin with glitch in DPP and those were seen as illegal pokémon because it was unreleased event.
Hello hello, I would probably avoid downloading random things from Pokecheck, that Mew may very well be legal but there isn't a guarantee it was obtained legitimately. If you're still looking for Mew, I can send you one, just PM me and we can arrange a time to trade. Also, while the wild Shaymin and Darkrai would be illegal if encountered in Diamond and Pearl with glitches, the Oak's Letter and Member Card actually were released for Platinum version, so wild-caught (and even shiny) Shaymin and Darkrai are legal if obtained from Platinum.
 
I am in Ultra Moon and got a wonder traded ditto I want to know if it is hacked or not.
Language: JPN
Species: Ditto
OT: PKSM
ID No.: 993401
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Ability: Limber
Pokemon's name: Its in Japanese so I have no idea(this is not the name)
Gender: Genderless
Level: 100
Pokeball: Pokeball
Shiny?: No
Pentagon?: No
Moves: 1) Transform
Nature: Quirky
Region of origin: Alola (Mount Hokulani)
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ribbons: None
PKSM is a mobile Pokémon injector that works directly off a hacked 3DS. I actually have it. Any Pokémon that has the OT PKSM is almost always a generated/injected Pokémon. While in USUM and SuMo it is entirely possible to get a perfect IV Ditto (I’ve done it myself on a Japanese copy of the game just to get a beneficial breeding Ditto, and I will never get back those hours that I ground to obtain it) through the SOS method (and have even gotten a 5IV SHINY Ditto this way). It’s not as hard as it would appear, but believe me it’s not something you can do in a day, that’s for sure. Also, it wouldn’t be necessarily hacked, but injected or generated. With the flood of Pokémon that can be considered hacked (such as how it is possible to trade a Rowlet in a Premier Ball despite the fact it can be obtained normally, and how some Victinis pass the hack checks when shiny, if done right.), you can find legit Pokémon that are impossible to obtain. This is a huge deal when it comes to breeding. The Pokémon hack check online tend to block many Pokémon that are downright impossible. Through testing, I have found many exceptions to this. During the making of Gen 7, Nintendo and Game Freak did not pay much attention to their hack checks. While it does block things like an Arceus with Wonder Guard or a Mawile with Comatose that knows Fire Lash, it isn’t the best. For instance, here’s a list of a few of the things that shouldn’t but does pass the hack checks:

Things that Pass the Hack Checks and Shouldn’t:

-Shiny Hoopa

-Shiny Victini

-Shiny Meloetta

-Hall of Origin Arceus (Shiny and Non-Shiny)

-Shiny Delta Episode Deoxys

-Shiny V-Create Rayquaza

-Shiny Keldeo

-Shiny Mew from the Virtual Console, even if glitched in with the right ID’s, as that Mew is meant to mimic an event that had specific stats that did NOT allow it to be shiny when transfered.

-Any Pokémon edited, but still with legal movesets and stats

-Some mythicals can pass through with changed OT’s even when from events, which include Marshadow, for example.

(The hack checks are really bad. And these can differ from events. For instance, almost any Pokémon from the GF 20th event can pass through the hack checks when shiny, with a modified OT, ribbons, and so on. To add, any “SPECIAL” Pokémon can “usually” be traded when the ribbon is removed. This allows most Pokémon to pass through wondertrade that are from events, like the shiny tapus.)

-Blacephalon, Stakataka, Dusk Lycanroc, Zeraora, pokemon with new items or Z-Crystals/move- Make note that these only apply when a hacker is online, abusing NTR (Which means they are editing their save file while in game, and even allows the trading of Pokémon with Mega Stones and special items and cosmetic value, such as any ribbon not obtained through normal gameplay) and Wonder Trading. These can be a problem in for Sun and Moon players who are using Wonder Trade, as they can receive these Pokémon in the form of a Bad Egg, a Glitchasuar (Placeholder Pokémon for unreserved Pokédex numbers, which can result in having nullified items, abilities, and moves which can A.) Almost always crash your game, B.) Has a small chance of corrupting a save file, and C.) in EXTREMLY rare cases can brick a cartridge (Sorry Cart users, *including myself, but luckily I have the newer games too*), or a Level 0 (?) (This is something I’ve found myself to be in the game, it’s a sort of MissingNo for gen 7, and is different from the ones in Gen 3-6, as it almost always disappears and it’s something I’m currently researching through guess and check hacking and exploiting the metagame
on ALL of your behalf’s. For now, all I know is that it WILL crash your game if it doesn’t disappear when you enter battle with it in your team. Similar to Glitchasaur, it can’t learn any moves unless it is a Pokémon that someone used hacks to backwards transfer somehow. In addition to glitchasaur, I’m still checking whether or not they can be traded through NTR abuse since, except when back-transferred, they take up an unused dex number, and what that means for their base stats, etc,. Alola forms when backtransfered appear as their normal forms).

-Premier Ball Rowlet and it’s family, Dusk Ball/Beast Ball Litten and its family (Though the conditions for Beast Ball Litten and it’s family appears to be different than for others), and as for Primarina, I’m not sure yet, and I’ll be looking more into it. I’ve tried Beast Ball, but I still do not know the beast balls conditions, and have not found the ball in which it can be traded, besides the Poké Ball, that is. The conditions for most of these, as far as I know, is that they need to be breed to pass the hack checks.

This list is FAR from complete.

I do not condone hacking in anyway, I hacked purely with the intention of researching. In the event that one does hack, they can be banned, and I am not responsible in any way. I hope this reaches many people and keeps them informed!
 
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Language:JPN
Species: Greninja
OT: マーサ (Maasa)
ID No.: 30314
IVs: 31/x/x/x/31/31
EVs (optional): 252 SpA/252 Spe/4 HP/2 Def
Ability: Protean
Pokemon's name: Greninja
Gender: male
Level: 100
Pokeball: Normal
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon/Cross? (if yes, specify): Pentagon
Moves: Scald/Ice Beam/Dark Pulse/Extrasensory
Nature:Timid
Region of origin: Kalos
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ribbons: Kalos Champion Ribbon
Other comments (optional): Had Pokerus at one point, got it off Wonder Trade back in Gen 6.
 

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Language:JPN
Species: Greninja
OT: マーサ (Maasa)
ID No.: 30314
IVs: 31/x/x/x/31/31
EVs (optional): 252 SpA/252 Spe/4 HP/2 Def
Ability: Protean
Pokemon's name: Greninja
Gender: male
Level: 100
Pokeball: Normal
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon/Cross? (if yes, specify): Pentagon
Moves: Scald/Ice Beam/Dark Pulse/Extrasensory
Nature:Timid
Region of origin: Kalos
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ribbons: Kalos Champion Ribbon
Other comments (optional): Had Pokerus at one point, got it off Wonder Trade back in Gen 6.
Appears to be a bred/captured Greninja from the info given. But a good rule of thumb is if you can't trace it, don't trade it. I.e. if you don't know who the OT is (like here, you got it from some random trainer), then best to assume it's hacked so you don't land yourself in hot water.
 
Hey all,

I’ve made some progress with this and have some information on the Seventh Generation starters that do not have regular Poké Balls. Apparently there was a Japanese Pokémon figure collection called Moncollé Get, where the figures came with QR codes adorning the bottoms for use in Island Scan I assume. Apparently from what I know they cause the Pokémon depicted on the figure which is scanned to be encountered in the wild after scanning on a Japanese console and cartridge. If so this could mean that these Pokémon are legal and could be used legitimately. Is there any knowledgeable people who could confirm this? At this point after trial and error, it seems that any evolutionary stage of the starters can pass through hack checks as long as they are not in Dream Balls, Sport Balls, Cherish Balls or Beast Balls. As for the Apricorn balls I’m not sure yet, and for all other Poké Balls, they sure do work.

I also wanted to quickly inform those of you who have somehow received a Pokémon through a trade which doesn’t appear legit- Don’t worry. You won’t be in “hot water”, nor will you be banned. Here’s why-

• There’s no way to tell whether you hacked to get the Pokémon or not.

•There’s also no way to tell the difference between generated Pokémon and legit Pokémon, besides an educated guess- of course, that is, if you’re a human, not Nintendo’s servers.

•If you got it online through a trade, there’s no need to fret, as the Pokémon passed through the server’s checks and already was validated.

•Is your Aegislash in a Dream Ball, Cherish Ball, Safari Ball, or Sport Ball? No? Then you’re good to go!

•Does your Bidoof know Judgement? No? You’re fine. Yes? You either got it over a Quick Link, you’re a hacker yourself, or somehow you have one of those glitched cartridges.

•When you try to trade an illegal (Which the exception of those special few I listed before) Pokémon online, your game will give you a message stating “There seems to be a problem with the/your Pokémon.” Or on the Battle Spot: “There is a problem with one or more of your Pokémon.” If you get past that, yeah, you’re in for some trouble.

•Illegal Pokémon that don’t pass the hack checks won’t appear on the GTS. (Tested by yours truly!)

•Have an illegal Pokémon that passes the checks? Have no fear! You won’t get banned for those either!

Despite of all this, be aware that the any communications done offline have no checks of any kind. You will not be banned for using these in the Battle Tree either.

If you’re a legit player and got a Pokémon that seems too good to be true (you should see the Ditto I shiny chained for last week) I would suggest Wonder Trading it, as I’m sure there’s someone who’ll want it. I’ll be doing more research for you all in the future.
 
Hi again,
I found out something interesting and I wonder if it can be confirmed.


This video on the post states that wild pokémon in RBY can't be shiny because those DVs just don't appear on wild pokémon (but seems to be possible in gifts/starters/stationaries and.... fishing?).

So this would mean that like shiny Tauros with fissure/horn drill or any other Gen 1 exclusive move would be illegal. Afaik it can't be tutored in later generations either (unless move reminder can do that but I don't know).

This kinda sucks for me because I wanted to have a full rooster of shiny pokémon with exclusive moves from gen 1. :P
 

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