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Hi again,
I found out something interesting and I wonder if it can be confirmed.

This video on the post states that wild pokémon in RBY can't be shiny because those DVs just don't appear on wild pokémon (but seems to be possible in gifts/starters/stationaries and.... fishing?).

So this would mean that like shiny Tauros with fissure/horn drill or any other Gen 1 exclusive move would be illegal. Afaik it can't be tutored in later generations either (unless move reminder can do that but I don't know).

This kinda sucks for me because I wanted to have a full rooster of shiny pokémon with exclusive moves from gen 1. :P
Only static encounters can be shiny in RBY. Max. Optimizer is bound to know more about it than me, so you could ask them what you can and cant get.

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Haven't watched the vid, but what you say seems consistent with the OP

Gen 1 (RBY Virtual Console games):

  • Pokemon imported from these games will have their Hidden Abilities.
  • Any Pokemon (except the event Mew) not encountered in the grass/surfing can be shiny when imported. See here.
  • When imported, every Pokemon will have at least 3 31 IVs, even if they can breed.
    • The event Mew (OT: GF | ID: 22796) is guaranteed to have 5 31 IVs.
    • This means that certain Hidden Power IV combinations are impossible, including HP Fighting entirely.
MO can of course expound if he feels so inclined

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Disclaimer: I don't really know where The Chaotician's assumption stems from, but I'm by no means an expert on that topic, far from it!
All I can bring to the table in the face of the topic at hand is a list that fellow user Mattapod shared with me a while back.
Sadly I irreversibly left that conversation a long time ago, but, luckily I had the foresight to copy-paste it into a Word document for future reference.

Please find it down below:

Pokémon obtainable by gift, in-game trade, purchase, fishing or stationary encounter:

Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle, Pikachu, Nidoran (F), Nidorina, Nidorino, Vulpix, Clefairy, Jigglypuff, Parasect, Dugtrio, Abra, Machamp, Farfetch’d, Seel, Dewgong, Muk, Electrode, Hitmonlee, Hitmonchan, Lickitung, Rhydon, Tangela, Mr. Mime, Scyther, Jynx, Pinsir, Magikarp, Lapras, Eevee, Porygon, Omanyte, Kabuto, Aerodactyl, Snorlax, Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres, Dratini and Mewtwo
I feel like I was thinking too much inside a box.

I forgot that I can still breed shiny Tauros in Crystal with shiny ditto to get it shiny and trade it back to Gen 1 to teach TMs I want. Or at least I think it works because GSC has the time capsule (and I got access to two 3ds systems). This way I can get all Gen 1 pokémon shiny and with exclusive moves (minus gen 2 only egg moves). So yeah ignore about what I wrote earlier. Gen 7 does no difference between RBY and GSC pokémon anyway so it doesn't matter in that way if the only thing I want is that GB icon.

However, I started to question what is the whole point since those pokémon don't really have any competitive value. Like Charizard from RBY got no value in competitive game because it will miss it's best move (Dragon Dance), same with Lapras (Freeze Dry). Also useful combos like Clefable + Softboiled doesn't work because Clefable learn it from FR/LG movetutor but not from gen 1 TM.

Well, I like weird things.

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