[READ ME] Tips for Simple Hack Checks

Hi again,
I found out something interesting and I wonder if it can be confirmed.


This video on the post states that wild pokémon in RBY can't be shiny because those DVs just don't appear on wild pokémon (but seems to be possible in gifts/starters/stationaries and.... fishing?).

So this would mean that like shiny Tauros with fissure/horn drill or any other Gen 1 exclusive move would be illegal. Afaik it can't be tutored in later generations either (unless move reminder can do that but I don't know).

This kinda sucks for me because I wanted to have a full rooster of shiny pokémon with exclusive moves from gen 1. :P
Only static encounters can be shiny in RBY. Max. Optimizer is bound to know more about it than me, so you could ask them what you can and cant get.
 

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Haven't watched the vid, but what you say seems consistent with the OP

Gen 1 (RBY Virtual Console games):

  • Pokemon imported from these games will have their Hidden Abilities.
  • Any Pokemon (except the event Mew) not encountered in the grass/surfing can be shiny when imported. See here.
  • When imported, every Pokemon will have at least 3 31 IVs, even if they can breed.
    • The event Mew (OT: GF | ID: 22796) is guaranteed to have 5 31 IVs.
    • This means that certain Hidden Power IV combinations are impossible, including HP Fighting entirely.
MO can of course expound if he feels so inclined
 

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Disclaimer: I don't really know where The Chaotician's assumption stems from, but I'm by no means an expert on that topic, far from it!
All I can bring to the table in the face of the topic at hand is a list that fellow user Mattapod shared with me a while back.
Sadly I irreversibly left that conversation a long time ago, but, luckily I had the foresight to copy-paste it into a Word document for future reference.

Please find it down below:

Pokémon obtainable by gift, in-game trade, purchase, fishing or stationary encounter:

Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle, Pikachu, Nidoran (F), Nidorina, Nidorino, Vulpix, Clefairy, Jigglypuff, Parasect, Dugtrio, Abra, Machamp, Farfetch’d, Seel, Dewgong, Muk, Electrode, Hitmonlee, Hitmonchan, Lickitung, Rhydon, Tangela, Mr. Mime, Scyther, Jynx, Pinsir, Magikarp, Lapras, Eevee, Porygon, Omanyte, Kabuto, Aerodactyl, Snorlax, Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres, Dratini and Mewtwo
 
I feel like I was thinking too much inside a box.

I forgot that I can still breed shiny Tauros in Crystal with shiny ditto to get it shiny and trade it back to Gen 1 to teach TMs I want. Or at least I think it works because GSC has the time capsule (and I got access to two 3ds systems). This way I can get all Gen 1 pokémon shiny and with exclusive moves (minus gen 2 only egg moves). So yeah ignore about what I wrote earlier. Gen 7 does no difference between RBY and GSC pokémon anyway so it doesn't matter in that way if the only thing I want is that GB icon.

However, I started to question what is the whole point since those pokémon don't really have any competitive value. Like Charizard from RBY got no value in competitive game because it will miss it's best move (Dragon Dance), same with Lapras (Freeze Dry). Also useful combos like Clefable + Softboiled doesn't work because Clefable learn it from FR/LG movetutor but not from gen 1 TM.

Well, I like weird things.
 
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Language: ENG
Species: Lugia
OT: Lee
ID No.: 240855
IVs: 27/6/31/31/31/30
EVs (optional): None
Ability: Pressure
Pokemon's name: StringYTube
Gender: N/A
Level: 92
Pokeball: Premier Ball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon/Cross? (if yes, specify): Cross
Moves: Skill Swap/Aeroblast/Extrasensory/Ancient Power
Nature: Mild
Region of origin: Alola
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional): This Pokemon came from the Trainer who was also called StringsYTube. I've looked on YouTube for his username and apparently, he's one of the Trainers who give away shiny Pokemon and legendaries.

I'm planning on releasing this Pokemon but I want to see if it is hacked.
 

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It's been a long while since I last been here.

Language: ENG
Species: Lugia
OT: Lee
ID No.: 240855
IVs: 27/6/31/31/31/30
EVs (optional): None
Ability: Pressure
Pokemon's name: StringYTube
Gender: N/A
Level: 92
Pokeball: Premier Ball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon/Cross? (if yes, specify): Cross
Moves: Skill Swap/Aeroblast/Extrasensory/Ancient Power
Nature: Mild
Region of origin: Alola
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional): This Pokemon came from the Trainer who was also called StringsYTube. I've looked on YouTube for his username and apparently, he's one of the Trainers who give away shiny Pokemon and legendaries.

I'm planning on releasing this Pokemon but I want to see if it is hacked.
Nothing indicates that this Pokemon is hacked based on the information you've given. However, streamers and YouTubers are fairly notorious for giving away hacked Pokemon, I wouldn't accept a Pokemon if I didn't trust the source.
 
I know in the 1st post it says AusLove is common but I want to be certain before I go and release it if it's hacked.

Language: English
Species: Palkia
OT: AusLove.TV
ID No.: 54321
IVs: Not sure how it works. Asked IV checker guy in my game : Outstanding potential overall, greatest potential in HP, attack is good too, Sp. Atk is equally good, Sp Def seems just as good, Speed is good too. Stats like those... They simply can't be beat! That's how I judge it.
EVs (optional):
Ability: Pressure
Pokemon's name: Palkia
Gender: none
Level: 100
Pokeball: Premier Ball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon/Cross? (if yes, specify): Pentagon
Moves: Aura Sphere (32) Spacial Rend (8) Hydro Pump (8) Dragon Pulse (16)
Nature: Modest
Region of origin: Where : Soaring in the Sky
Characteristic: Alert to Sounds
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional): Date met was 11/11/2015
 

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I know in the 1st post it says AusLove is common but I want to be certain before I go and release it if it's hacked.

Language: English
Species: Palkia
OT: AusLove.TV
ID No.: 54321
IVs: Not sure how it works. Asked IV checker guy in my game : Outstanding potential overall, greatest potential in HP, attack is good too, Sp. Atk is equally good, Sp Def seems just as good, Speed is good too. Stats like those... They simply can't be beat! That's how I judge it.
EVs (optional):
Ability: Pressure
Pokemon's name: Palkia
Gender: none
Level: 100
Pokeball: Premier Ball
Shiny?: Yes
Pentagon/Cross? (if yes, specify): Pentagon
Moves: Aura Sphere (32) Spacial Rend (8) Hydro Pump (8) Dragon Pulse (16)
Nature: Modest
Region of origin: Where : Soaring in the Sky
Characteristic: Alert to Sounds
Ribbons: None
Other comments (optional): Date met was 11/11/2015
It is indeed 100% a hacked Pokémon.

As a rule of thumb: If a Pokémon's OT ends with ".TV" or some form of "bit.ly" link, you can be 100% sure that the Pokémon at hand is hacked.
They're being pumped out en masse by cheap Pokémon "content creators" on YouTube or on Twitch, in order to advertize their channels.
Ultimately, you're obviously free to do with it whatever you like when it comes to private in-game use, you're just not allowed to trade it here.

I hope that this answered your question!
 
Language: ING
Species: Gensect
OT: GF
ID No.: 11016
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
EVs (optional):
Ability: Download
Pokemon's name: Genesect
Gender: None
Level: 100
Pokeball: Cherish
Shiny?: No
Pentagon/Cross? (if yes, specify): Pentagon
Moves: Techno Blast/ Flamethrower/ U-Turn/ Flash Cannon
Nature: Hasty
Region of origin: Hoen
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ribbons: Classic
Other comments (optional):
 

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Language: ING
Species: Gensect
OT: GF
ID No.: 11016
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
EVs (optional):
Ability: Download
Pokemon's name: Genesect
Gender: None
Level: 100
Pokeball: Cherish
Shiny?: No
Pentagon/Cross? (if yes, specify): Pentagon
Moves: Techno Blast/ Flamethrower/ U-Turn/ Flash Cannon
Nature: Hasty
Region of origin: Hoen
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ribbons: Classic
Other comments (optional):
Info matches a Gen 6 event (with some TM moves added after the fact), though if you don't know the source it's best to assume it's hacked. 6IV raises some red flags, for example.
 
I fell like this Deoxys is hacked. It is shiny, level 100 and caught in a Premier Ball. It has 304 health,302 attack, 137 defense, 438 speed, 136 Sp. Defense and 335 sp attack. It is German language and it’s ot is Flexii.YTUBE, and from the Hoenn Region. My friend told me Deoxys is shiny locked so that made me wonder.
 

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I fell like this Deoxys is hacked. It is shiny, level 100 and caught in a Premier Ball. It has 304 health,302 attack, 137 defense, 438 speed, 136 Sp. Defense and 335 sp attack. It is German language and it’s ot is Flexii.YTUBE, and from the Hoenn Region. My friend told me Deoxys is shiny locked so that made me wonder.
If a Pokémon's OT includes a YouTube channel name or a Twitch channel name, you can be 110% sure that it's hacked.
These people pump out flimsy hacks via Wonder Trade in order to promote their channels.

Also yes, your friend is correct: Deoxys from the Hoenn region (ΩRαS games) is de facto shiny-locked.
 
So I get that OT or pokemon names with YouTube channels or Twitch channels (and other websites) are hacked pokemon. Are there any YouTube/Twitch channels people know that only give out legit pokemon?
 

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