Nope, free phazing plus Stealth Rock setup in one turn.
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Nope, free phazing plus Stealth Rock setup in one turn.
But without a white herb you make yourself vunurable to priority, and without a life orb, you probably won't be getting enough power to ohko your opponent. There are better ways of getting rocks down
I dont think priority attacks are that much of an issue in this tier..No scizor,lucario,...is honchcrow RU?
Edit:Is hitmontop RU?
You're a joke. Stop talking like you know what you're talking about to avoid further embarrassment.
Priority is common in the forms of Sucker Punch on Honchkrow and Extremespeed on Entei.
You're right, Focus Sash would probably work better.
He gets sturdy, So sash would be stupid. I use red card on mine. Whats wrong with it?
I was just trying to see what he'd say, but I've tried out Red Card on it and it works fine so I don't know what he's going on about.
Guys leave him alone, instead of attacking this little bud lets nuture it.
Its actually got a serious mention on a few OU analysises, its not considered totally a noob item, but more of a risky item. Its for if you really need to set up that extra layer of spikes, if used right its decent. Doexys-D is the one I remember, as it doesn’t really need leftovers as it has recover.
Don't ever go with the crowd bro, look at everything critically.
White Herb and Life Orb are superior options on Shell Smash Crustle.
Although I personally ended up using Lum Berry on my Shell Smash Crustle because I noticed a lot of people try to status with Burn and Paralyze with pokemon with great physical bulk like the Mummy Pokemon, so Lum berry is also a Good option for Surprise Value.
Mental Herb is probably also a Good option on lead sets if you're worried about being taunted and most lead Crustle leads tend to set up Hazards anyway.
I don't see Red Card ever being useful, although I've seen it on Dreamworld Ditto, I had no idea why lol.
Although I personally ended up using Lum Berry on my Shell Smash Crustle because I noticed a lot of people try to status with Burn and Paralyze with pokemon with great physical bulk like the Mummy Pokemon, so Lum berry is also a Good option for Surprise Value.
Mental Herb is probably also a Good option on lead sets if you're worried about being taunted and most lead Crustle leads tend to set up Hazards anyway.
I don't see Red Card ever being useful, although I've seen it on Dreamworld Ditto, I had no idea why lol.
what you say is true, but as Crustle lacks recovery leftovers helps. If he shell smashes, he likes the white herb to get back his defences. Or use a life orb for that boost. Red Card is clearly outclassed on a shell smash Crustle.
This thread would have so much more potential if OP wasn't so close minded and biased.
Explain how it's close minded and biased. Please, enlighten me.
Its a perfectly good item. I use it to phase out anything that has Sword Danced or used any other stat up moves. Stick it on a tank, switch tank out, bye bye stats. Saved me from several Excadrill sweeps. But on Crustle? I'll wait for my berry.
The biggest use I find with the Red Card are in those flat battles where there are Item restrictions (1 different item per pokemon) as there are few options better than a Red Card.
Well several times in the thread you've merely said "X has been labeled useless" or "X isn't labeled a threat" other phrases along those lines, and yet you haven't said you've figured out that these things are useless on your own. Its easy to just say "Oh well some other people say it is useless, so it is. But when you try things out and experiment on your own, you can find little niche uses for "useless" items and pokemon.
I specifically stated earlier in the thread that I test out EVERYTHING before making a judgment on it.
On the topic of Red Card -
It actually can be a decent item, but its best use is probably on a phazer with entry hazards up. Think about it. You attack it and SURPRISE! Red Card switch and you get entry hazardified. (That's a word now; I hearby declare it.) Then SURPRISE! phazing move and you get RE-entry hazardified! It's a great way to spread around hazards. However, I don't know how useful it will be in RU, where there aren't many good phazers/hazard layers, (okay, ferroseed is good for hazards, but other than that not much.) Reply if you can think of good ones and show the world how wrong I am.
It actually can be a decent item, but its best use is probably on a phazer with entry hazards up. Think about it. You attack it and SURPRISE! Red Card switch and you get entry hazardified. (That's a word now; I hearby declare it.) Then SURPRISE! phazing move and you get RE-entry hazardified! It's a great way to spread around hazards. However, I don't know how useful it will be in RU, where there aren't many good phazers/hazard layers, (okay, ferroseed is good for hazards, but other than that not much.) Reply if you can think of good ones and show the world how wrong I am.
Really? Wow, that's interesting. Thanks for pointing that out, man!
i think red card is a terrific item.
i used it in ou quite a lot.
lets say for example u get set up by some pokemon.
garchomp +6 (now banned), voltolos +6, sigilyph+6, volcarona +6... oh shit. we all had those moments.
i actually prepare those small mispredictions i make in front of set up sweepers and pack one utility pokemon with red card.
similarly, i ran a sigilyph holding a focus sash (has magic guard so is uneffected by residual damage) and knows whirwind. when ever something sets up, i sacrfice a poke and phaze out the opponents +6 pokemon. then they rage quit ;)
i really like red card.
i used it in ou quite a lot.
lets say for example u get set up by some pokemon.
garchomp +6 (now banned), voltolos +6, sigilyph+6, volcarona +6... oh shit. we all had those moments.
i actually prepare those small mispredictions i make in front of set up sweepers and pack one utility pokemon with red card.
similarly, i ran a sigilyph holding a focus sash (has magic guard so is uneffected by residual damage) and knows whirwind. when ever something sets up, i sacrfice a poke and phaze out the opponents +6 pokemon. then they rage quit ;)
i really like red card.
Right? It stops sweeps. Put in on something with sturdy and you get a free roar. gg
Rudeness gets you nowhere, and I'd like to see where it was officially established that Red Card was a "noob" item. Just because it isn't omnipresent like Leftovers doesn't mean it's not a viable option on certain things. Please don't suppress creativity even if it doesn't deserve a spot on the top threats list.
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