SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

[Moyashi]

So is intimidate nerfed or not?

This was tested and repeated. n o

On another note
Baxcalibur-0 - 115/145/92/75/86/87 (Total: 600) - Dragon/Ice - Thermal Exchange/Thermal Exchange/Ice Body

Thermal Exchange boosts attack and grants a burn immunity. Holy fuck. This thing is 100% top OU material.

 

[Delibird is Amazing]

Hisuian decidueye now has scrappy, pretty good

typhlosion gets frisk

 

[Some random freak]

Houndstone joins Stoutland as the second dog to get Sand Rush. Sadly 101 Attack isn't enough to justify its use in OU but it could be fun in the lower tiers.

 

[Vengeance417]

SCOVILLAIN HAS CHLOROPHYLL!

THE FIRE/GRASS HAS CHLOROPHYLL!

 

[Perriechu]

Holy shit youre right. sus list, it aint over yet!!!

It’s exclusive to the team star vehicles

 

[Jaetheho]

SCOVILLAIN HAS CHLOROPHYLL!

THE FIRE/GRASS HAS CHLOROPHYLL!

We knew that for like 50 pages, it was just the question of a usable stats

 

[ScraftyIsTheBest]

Remind me, what did Thermal Exchange do?

The Ice/Dragon pseudo is listed as having it

Basically its Attack gets boosted every time it gets hit by a Fire-type move. It also cannot be burned.

Baxcalibur is really strong there.

 

[Melons-N-Soda]

Other things I've noticed looking through this:

1. Houndstone-0 - 72/101/100/50/97/68 (Total: 488) - Ghost/Ghost - Sand Rush/Sand Rush/Fluffy

Another mon that looks far better now that we know its abilities. Fluffy on a Ghost type is neat because its actually able to tank Knock Offs semi comfortably. Sand Rush is dependent on its offensive movepool.

1. Spidops-0 - 60/79/92/52/86/35 (Total: 404) - Bug/Bug - Insomnia/Insomnia/Stakeout

If it were for the dark dog we'd have another shitmon Stakeout user. I'd rather use Gumshoos lmao.

1. Espathra-0 - 95/60/60/101/60/105 (Total: 481) - Psychic/Psychic - Opportunist/Frisk/Speed Boost

The engine mon didn't get it but apparently THIS STUPID PSYCHIC BIRD gets Speed Boost. Now I'm curious.

1. Grafaiai-0 - 63/95/65/80/72/110 (Total: 485) - Poison/Normal - Unburden/Poison Touch/Prankster

Another depending on the movepool mon. Prankster T-Spikes is a possibility which sounds kinda cool, otherwise not sure what moves this could get that would work well with that ability.

 

[Missingno.1998]

Klawf has regenerator, did not predict that. So does Cyclizor which could work with its sig move.
Bombirdier gets powered up Rock moves for some reason.
Glimmora gets Corrosion
The Sushi mon thankfully gets a second (hidden) ability so it isn't useless in Singles. And Storm Drain is good.
Cetitan gets Sheer Force omg!
Mouse Family didn't get Parental Bond
Varoom gets Slow Start?? And Revaroom doesn't get Speed Boost??
Scorvillian gets Moody oh my
Arboliva gets Harvest
Dondozo (my love!) Gets Unaware and Oblivious. And still has solid physical bulk.
Espathra gets Speed Boost interesting. Could be good with Calm Mind.
Houndstone gets Fluffy
Lokix gets Tinted Lens
Sneasler gets Unburden
Clodsire gets Unaware
Toedscruel won't be our fast Spore user after all
Grafafai gets Prankster

 

[Imperial Magala]

I'll add that Cud Chew is an alright name in the case that other non-Psychic ruminant Pokemon gain it, i.e. Miltank, Tauros, Sawsbuck.

Called it from way back.

 

[Sirya]

This is how breeding works now apparently and like.. I’m just hoping that somewhere hidden that the day care is around cause this sounds so unbelievably tedious and rotten


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I personally love breeding and breeding for my own flawless ivs/egg moves/balls I don’t like using mints and caps (even if it is easier) ughhh THIS is a weird choice

I've 0 hopes about a daycare. The games have their good and bad things, but the worse of them all is the target audience clearly being Pokémon Go players. I like raids and all that, but when the games turn more and more into this kind of "automatization" process that ironically eliminates involvement -and is often tedious- is the absolute worst. It's pure mobile game physolophy, automatized or semi automatized tasks so you can "keep generating resources" while doing other things, then checking from time to see how much resources have you generated but never without you directly controlling them. Like gatchas.

This is a big point for me since i like breeding and its mechanics a lot.

 

[ThreeT]

They gave H-Decidueye SCRAPPY!

 

[TenshouYoku]

This is how breeding works now apparently and like.. I’m just hoping that somewhere hidden that the day care is around cause this sounds so unbelievably tedious and rotten


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I personally love breeding and breeding for my own flawless ivs/egg moves/balls I don’t like using mints and caps (even if it is easier) ughhh THIS is a weird choice

Oh god so they commit the thing during lunch, that sounds so messed up lol

 

[MrHands]

Clodsire-0 - 130/75/60/45/100/20 (Total: 430) - Poison/Ground - Poison Point/Water Absorb/Unaware

So uhh. This thing just ends special setup sweepers.

252 SpA Choice Specs Blacephalon Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Clodsire: 159-187 (34.2 - 40.3%)

252 SpA Heatran Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Clodsire: 142-168 (30.6 - 36.2%)

252 SpA Choice Specs Dragapult Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Clodsire: 192-226 (41.3 - 48.7%)

252 SpA Choice Specs Dragapult Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Clodsire: 118-139 (25.4 - 29.9%)

252 SpA Tapu Koko Dazzling Gleam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Clodsire: 38-45 (8.1 - 9.6%)

252 SpA Volcarona Psychic vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Clodsire: 146-174 (31.4 - 37.5%)

My boy Clod is a fatty. Unaware as well so good luck breaking it without a choice specs. Well, unless it runs low on 8 Recover PP / doesn't learn it at all.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

This was tested and repeated. n o

On another note
Baxcalibur-0 - 115/145/92/75/86/87 (Total: 600) - Dragon/Ice - Thermal Exchange/Thermal Exchange/Ice Body

Thermal Exchange boosts attack and grants a burn immunity. Holy fuck. This thing is 100% top OU material.

Thanks vro. The Zacian stat nerf in the datamine 'leak' seems to be fake though. That's a substantial nerf

https://pastebin.com/hmMECP7P

 

[Rot8er_ConeX]

It’s exclusive to the team star vehicles

That'd be listed as forms, though, right? Even if the player doesn't get access to them, like Eternal Flower Floette.

I'm willing to bet that the type change is just an under-the-hood Terastallization (before this game I'd 100% say they were forms but one of the late-game battles does some really cool shit with the UI), but the ability has to be done through a form change, right?

 

[Peaches144]

Flamigo gets Costar? Why?

 

[The N@me User]

>Houndstone-0 - 72/101/100/50/97/68 (Total: 488) - Ghost/Ghost - Sand Rush/Sand Rush/Fluffy

Good dog?

 

[Yung Dramps]

zacian and zamazenta got a stat nerf lol

1. Zacian-0 - 92/120/115/80/115/138 (Total: 660) - Fairy/Fairy - Intrepid Sword/Intrepid Sword/Intrepid Sword
2. Zacian-1 - 92/150/115/80/115/148 (Total: 700) - Fairy/Steel - Intrepid Sword/Intrepid Sword/Intrepid Sword
3. Zamazenta-0 - 92/120/115/80/115/138 (Total: 660) - Fighting/Fighting - Dauntless Shield/Dauntless Shield/Dauntless Shield
4. Zamazenta-1 - 92/120/140/80/140/128 (Total: 700) - Fighting/Steel - Dauntless Shield/Dauntless Shield/Dauntless Shield

 

[Seth Vilo]

Hisuian Arcanine has Rock Head, y'all.

 

[Bribery]

Some of the Hisuian forms got new abilities! Curious to see how they fare. Samurott-H is a pretty significant buff.

Arcanine-H: Intimidate/Flash Fire/Rock Head (Lost Justified)
Typhlosion-H: Blaze/Blaze/Frisk (Lost Flash Fire)
Sneasler: Pressure/Unburden/Poison Touch (new ability)
Samurott-H: Torrent/Torrent/Sharpness (Lost Shell Armor)
Basculegion: Swift Swim/Adaptability/Mold Breaker (Lost Rattled)
Decidueye-H: Overgrow/Overgrow/Scrappy (Lost Long Reach)
Braviary-H: Keen Eye/Sheer Force/Tinted Lens (Lost Defiant)
Goodra-H: Sap Sipper/Shell Armor/Gooey (Lost Overcoat)
Kleavor: Swarm/Sheer Force/Sharpness (Lost Steadfast)

 

[Perriechu]

That'd be listed as forms, though, right? Even if the player doesn't get access to them, like Eternal Flower Floette.

I'm willing to bet that the type change is just an under-the-hood Terastallization (before this game I'd 100% say they were forms but one of the late-game battles does some really cool shit with the UI), but the ability has to be done through a form change, right?

I would think it’s more akin to the PokeStar Studios Pokémon. It’s not related to Revavoom, it just possesses it.

the only grassy surge user is Rillaboom and surprisingly there is no Misty Surge user

 

[Some random freak]

I noticed that Maushold gets Technician + a move that hits 10 times lol. I'm not sure it'll make up for the low Attack stat but it could make for a fun gimmick depending on the BP of the move.

 

[Peaches144]

I would think it’s more akin to the PokeStar Studios Pokémon. It’s not related to Revavoom, it just possesses it.

the only grassy surge user is Rillaboom and surprisingly there is no Misty Surge user

That doesn't line up with the riddle about new users, does it?

 

[Crimson Chris]

Wondering how Baxcalibur and Skeledirge are gonna be.