Idk that response seems a bit meanspirited when all a person is doing is voicing an annoyance on a game they've played for likely over a few years at least. But I do get the sentiment.
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SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics
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lmao i was not ready for that
My boy, you are literally commenting on a site that uses an "alternative" to their rules for online battles.
No one needs to eat shit and pretend it tastes good lol. People can, and will, complain about poor decisions in a series they enjoy/ed.
Idk needing to run wish Blissey and regen cores still seems enjoyable to me.
Everyone has their own opinions on matters though.
I know a lot of people whine about Regen cores, but with the nerf to recovery moves, I think it's likely that even more people will be forced to use them due to it being pretty easy to blow through 8 PP of a recovery move. It won't be because Regenerator is broken that this happens but that Gamefreak limited people's options. Gamefreak shows how poor it is at balancing the game once again. Hyper Offense will probably dominate this gen after Terastal gets banned.
I think these balance choices are amazing and hilarious because the game is ostensibly designed around VGC and 3v3 Singles, but many of these changes are targeted toward the "unofficial" 6v6 meta. I can already imagine GameFreak devs playing on Showdown and getting salty and deciding to nerf recovery moves once and for all.
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They are funny I will admit that. But I'd be surprised that they weren't salty due to Toxapex first. Maybe that's coming in the patch notes along with decreasing toxapex's defensive stats by 20 each and then they give it truant, defeatist and slow start as all 3 of its new abilities.
Edit:Also they remove scald from the game.
CTNC
Doesn't know how to attack
Argument for nerfing Cresselia: She was bulkier than God! (120/120/130 Defenses vs 120/120/120)
That said, Dude! Not cool! >:(
What I'm getting from leaks: Game Freak really hates stall. There's some crazy offensive stuff and most of the new defensive stuff also has nice offensive stats too. I'm pretty sure they also hate me (if they even know I exist :P) because I'm pretty sure you have to attack. They did throw me a bone with the Toxic Spikes and Grassy Terrain Abilities though.
That said, Dude! Not cool! >:(
What I'm getting from leaks: Game Freak really hates stall. There's some crazy offensive stuff and most of the new defensive stuff also has nice offensive stats too. I'm pretty sure they also hate me (if they even know I exist :P) because I'm pretty sure you have to attack. They did throw me a bone with the Toxic Spikes and Grassy Terrain Abilities though.
It seems like they want stat buffs and debuffs to generally be more of a thing, so I suspect the idea is to have defensive playstyles work more that way, and recovery is something you're generally meant to use when you get a setup opening rather than spamming it in your opponent's face while they die to residual damage.
How well that works is another matter, of course.
How well that works is another matter, of course.
But if they didn't spread it to lvl up or breeding movepool the only ones that have it would be Volcanion and the Water monkey from Gen5.
Meaning that only Volcanion can use it since the Elemental monkeys aren't in.
Stall can't catch a break.
Found this list on Reddit by a user that has been manually memory-editing to find the new items. Several of them crash, but we can see that it’s mostly food & TMs. Seems like there’s no item for the hammer fairy.
New items:
https://pastebin.com/anP6iCj0
Also the user reports that trying the item ID of the Link Cable item from PLA crashed the game, so it’s likely unavailable.
New items:
https://pastebin.com/anP6iCj0
Also the user reports that trying the item ID of the Link Cable item from PLA crashed the game, so it’s likely unavailable.
LMAO that head popping out
I think that's for the best for both of the Rockman expys tbh. Both have somewhat decent bulk, both have a healthy amount of attack they specialized in, and what they actually could get used to is a wee bit more speed which weak armor does provide. (And that's also accounting for unless you plan to make Armarouge moves it might not actually fit, say water pulse etc)How do you not give Armarouge Mega Launcher and Ceruledge Sharpness lol! Huge missed opportunity
Cresselia getting the nerf bat is surprising given it has only been like a force on the edge of play since like gen 7 and onward, but I can see the justification if I squint hard enough.
That thing was a menace in Gen 5 VGC and a huge centralizing force, right up there with pre-para nerf, pre-prankster nerf Thundurus and Dragon Gem Draco Meteor back when gems were real. It was just unparalleled support, and I think its fair to say it contributed a good bit to those metagames eventually starring a bunch of stuff that didn't mind speed control constantly. While it hasn't been a problem in a while, it also hasn't been in smaller format without every legendary roaming around ever. The power level of a format like what might be in store for us might be more on par with old formats Cresselia dominated. Maybe whatever competitive play design team GF has (I know they have a little something) got worried now that cress is getting reliable recovery, and might have scared GF into a stat nerf. I'm still a little uncertain this is the actual reason given... Urshifu will exist lol... but that's the best guess I have.
Also I know it's tempting to view things through the lens of Smogon, but there is plenty reason to keep a recovery nerf within the confines of what GF pays closer attention to. I'm not as well verse in BSS as old Gen 5 VGC, but I'm aware stall was a legitimate thing in the restricted 3v3 metas. Quagsire, Toxapex, and Mystical Fire Toxic Eternatus could stall out wins to timer pretty realistically. It's a win condition you could work towards to the point where I believe Theorymon had found a japanese BSS resource with how much time certain actions sucked up for that purpose. This might be an option they took for making games faster while also making sure for things like organized play purposes and their online tournaments, games don't take over a certain threshold of time. Whether it's the correct play for the job, given the splash damage it's done to fan-run formats, I'm not sure. It'll be interesting to see how exactly it'll all come to unfold.
That thing was a menace in Gen 5 VGC and a huge centralizing force, right up there with pre-para nerf, pre-prankster nerf Thundurus and Dragon Gem Draco Meteor back when gems were real. It was just unparalleled support, and I think its fair to say it contributed a good bit to those metagames eventually starring a bunch of stuff that didn't mind speed control constantly. While it hasn't been a problem in a while, it also hasn't been in smaller format without every legendary roaming around ever. The power level of a format like what might be in store for us might be more on par with old formats Cresselia dominated. Maybe whatever competitive play design team GF has (I know they have a little something) got worried now that cress is getting reliable recovery, and might have scared GF into a stat nerf. I'm still a little uncertain this is the actual reason given... Urshifu will exist lol... but that's the best guess I have.
Also I know it's tempting to view things through the lens of Smogon, but there is plenty reason to keep a recovery nerf within the confines of what GF pays closer attention to. I'm not as well verse in BSS as old Gen 5 VGC, but I'm aware stall was a legitimate thing in the restricted 3v3 metas. Quagsire, Toxapex, and Mystical Fire Toxic Eternatus could stall out wins to timer pretty realistically. It's a win condition you could work towards to the point where I believe Theorymon had found a japanese BSS resource with how much time certain actions sucked up for that purpose. This might be an option they took for making games faster while also making sure for things like organized play purposes and their online tournaments, games don't take over a certain threshold of time. Whether it's the correct play for the job, given the splash damage it's done to fan-run formats, I'm not sure. It'll be interesting to see how exactly it'll all come to unfold.
I mean I don't think you can make much of a worse metagame than gen 8 ubers so maybe nerfing recovery moves might be beneficial there because ubers can sometimes suffer from very fast pokemon just clicking recover really easily. Pokemon like Arceus and Eternatus. However ubers is the only metagame that I could see benefiting from this
99% sure it's just cosmetic since there's not a separate statline or ability line for the 3 segment version.
Meanwhile Lando gets a good ground move with a burn chance, as if it wasn't good enough already
Be positive, with recovery now nerfed, recovery-less defensive pokes like lando-T may indirectly become better (as they were already functional without the recovery moves in first place), so who knows, maybe this is finally your time to get it banned
It is a special attack so landoT isn't even going to run it a lot of the time. Earthquake is just a lot more widely useful against more things.
Though Lando-I has a new high BP stab to use.
Enamorus-0 - 74/115/70/135/80/106 (Total: 580) - Fairy/Flying - Cute Charm/Cute Charm/Contrary
Small thing: They replaced Healer with Cute Charm on Enamorus.
Small thing: They replaced Healer with Cute Charm on Enamorus.
i just realized that cyclizar has its substitute+baton pass signature move that combos perfectly with regenerator, which it gets. Thematically im a big fan of this because thats how real life lizards work but that sounds so busted in competitive. and he has 121 base speed 
it's good enough for utility
aand Lando-I won't use it cause Sheer Force
Speaking of cyclizar, does anyone know if the substitute from shed tail's hp is half cyclizar's total hp (since it consumes half it's hp bar n all)?i just realized that cyclizar has its substitute+baton pass signature move that combos perfectly with regenerator, which it gets. Thematically im a big fan of this because thats how real life lizards work but that sounds so busted in competitive. and he has 121 base speed
Secondly, I kinda feel like base speed 121 might work against it, especially if you're trying to preserve the sub after using it.; however, being half cyclizar's hp would make subbing before the opponent attacks more viable if the sub has more hp than a traditional sub does.