I verified, we don't have any more nerfs of moves. Everything is on the doc.
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SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics
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I'm more and more convinced that deliberately sandbagging certain stats is going to be a thing with Paradox mons. Of the ones that look viable and reasonably fast, it's only Iron Moth and Roaring Moon that can get their offensive stat boosted while running +Speed natures with max investment; Iron Valiant, Iron Bundle and Flutter Mane all have to run +attack or +special attack natures in order to get the boost on their offensive stat instead of speed, and this is particularly a problem for Iron Bundle because it loses its ability to speed creep and OHKO Miraidon without being Scarfed.
You know, people say this all the time when we got HDBs, recovery nerfs, a bunch of redistribution Singles moves, ect.
Move 120 is Self-Destruct and has the same Field51 flag. What's Misty Explosion's move number?Explosion appears to be move 153. Looking through the tags, the only one with a value that isn't labeled is Field51. Is that the explosive move field? Am I even reading this doc right?
If you sort the records in descending order, the SoundFlag field is only active for punching moves.
Of the new moves this gen - Headlong Rush, Rage Fist, and Jet Punch are all boosted by Iron Fist.
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Have any Pokemon received stat buffs/nerfs like in Gen 7/8? I know Cresselia had its Defenses nerfed but is there anything else?
Depends if you count pla mons. Hzoro got nerfed so its stats would be in line with uzoro, while kleavor got 5 atk moved to 5 spd
Kleavor swapped 5 points from Atk to SpD and Zoroark-H now has identical stats to regular Zoroark.
I'm still on the "most proficient stat means the stat the nature boosts and not the highest stat" copium myself just so we won't have to deal with any Timid Kartana nonsense with the Paradox. I think its been confirmed that Beast Boost now also uses the "most proficient" wording even though it just said "highest stat" before so who knows maybe both were reworked.
Oh ok so that still wouldn't justify a Darkrai nerf (except if it gets some broken move in the future too)
how the fuck is headlong rush a punch move lmao. The japanese name is the same, and the description is just a big tackle
To master Headlong Rush, young apprentice, you must transform your entire body into a fist
til Torterra has a punching move now
i think they changed it to "most proficient" to remove confusion over if it's based off base stats or the highest actual stat. so basically entirely to enable and explain timid kart nonsense lol
edit: nvm i guess it always said "most proficient"
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I checked in both a Gen 7 and Gen 8 game, and Beast Boost has always used the “most proficient stat” wording.
They're just actively making fun of luvdisc at this point lmao
Lord they actually added a Wojak meme in Pokemon.
outstanding questions:
Can Tidy Up be spinblocked?
Does Mortal Spin remove hazards in addition to poisoning and does it poison steel types with Corrosion?
Can the Glaive Rush defence nerf be avoided with protect?
What does Good as Gold block? Sounds like magic bounce without the bouncing as it's worded.
Thank you so much slp32 for your continued work!
Can Tidy Up be spinblocked?
Does Mortal Spin remove hazards in addition to poisoning and does it poison steel types with Corrosion?
Can the Glaive Rush defence nerf be avoided with protect?
What does Good as Gold block? Sounds like magic bounce without the bouncing as it's worded.
Thank you so much slp32 for your continued work!
I APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH
Here's a spreadsheet with the move data!!!
Sorry I took so long!
Edit: actually, the non-published link might be easier to read!
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To quote myself earlier this year:
In short, GF forgot to remove the flag during development of PLA, and forgot it again for SV.
Funny thing for VGC though, it hits every opponents and has a 100% of poison.
That was god awful to work through, but I've fixed all the flags that I could.
The following flags from pkNX currently aren't labelled:
Also, due to some earlier fields now going unlabelled because of these changes, it's possible that the SlciingFlag and WindFlag are actually earlier, and not Field54 and Field55.
The following flags from pkNX currently aren't labelled:
Code:
Flag_MakesContact
Flag_Charge
Flag_Protect
Flag_Snatch
Flag_Mirror
Flag_DistanceTriple
Flag_FailSkyBattle
Flag_AnimateAlly
Flag_Metronome
Just a general trend I noticed about the moves from the csv file:
Moves that last more than 1 turn (Outrage, Rollout, Petal Dance, Thrash) has set 6 value 1
Charging Moves (Fly, Dig) has set 3 and 6 value 1
Moves that call other moves (Sleep Talk, Assist, Metronome) has set 1, 3, 4, 5, and 6 value 1
Transform has set 1,4,5,6 value 1
Struggle has all set values 1
Moves that can fail after consecutive uses (Protect, Detect, Destiny Bond) has set 4 value 1
Moves that cannot be called byother moves Assist have set 4 value 1 (probably the Assist Flag)
Uproar, which is a continuous move, also has the set 3 value 1
no idea what any of this means
Moves that last more than 1 turn (Outrage, Rollout, Petal Dance, Thrash) has set 6 value 1
Charging Moves (Fly, Dig) has set 3 and 6 value 1
Moves that call other moves (Sleep Talk, Assist, Metronome) has set 1, 3, 4, 5, and 6 value 1
Transform has set 1,4,5,6 value 1
Struggle has all set values 1
Moves that can fail after consecutive uses (Protect, Detect, Destiny Bond) has set 4 value 1
Moves that cannot be called by
Uproar, which is a continuous move, also has the set 3 value 1
no idea what any of this means
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