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Scrafty
- Thread starter LudicoloGuy
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HJK is a powerful move, and it's the main reason why Blaziken is 'broken' along with Speed Boost, but there's a huge flaw in it as well. While the move is mega-powerful, if it misses, you get a 50% HP recoil, and then you're easily picked off in the process. With Drain Punch, you heal life and there's no fatal side effect for missing. So usually, Drain Punch is the better option, especially if you know your opponent has a Ghost that could utilize its' immunity to cripple your attacker. DD Scrafty can use Drain Punch to heal the damages that it takes while setting up, and who doesn't like free healing? 
Ditto this. Wait, this is a scrafty thread. But kidding aside, I gotta agree with this. Due to BU increasing def, and his passable sp def, he can be an extremely bulky poke. Even without any buffs. However, BU is outclassed by roobushin imo who has priority, and guts to increase even while burned. Now with DD you're using him to his fullest by using the tightly spread DD, using Shed Skin to get rid of status and the option to use IP to get passed gliscor is just one more reason to use Scrafty over Roobushin (sorry, I prefer conkledurrs name in japanese lol).
Oh, and I prefer to use DP to increase longevity too.
BU Scrafty is still good, even though it is outclassed by Conkeldurr. And who doesn't like a fast, bulky ghetto lizard? :P Drain Punch is better when you know there's a Ghost on your opponent's team, and HJK is a bit risky to use since it always seems to miss when you need it to connect. D:
Conkeldurr is a bit slower then Scrafty, and they both have some bulk, although Conkeldurr has a lot more HP, both defenses are weaker then Scrafty's. Conkeldurr really doesn't even need to set up, since it has a 140 base Attack, but there's no way to boost up its' horrendous Special Defense, while Scrafty could use Amnesia. Scrafty has a few stat-boosting moves, and two great STABs, while Conkeldurr has raw power and a priority move. They're two different Pokes used for two different things.
Scrafty can't come in on Reuniclus as it faces a Focus Blast to the face, which 2HKOs Scrafty.
I hope you're talking about Trick Room because CM sure isn't gonna do it.
40.7% - 48.5%
Reuniclus does win if it's at +1 already by the time Scrafty comes in, though.
Anyway, the point to using Scrafty's Dark STAB is not to check or counter Psychic-types, since most of them are either too bulky or can KO him first. The point is to sweep right through them. You can set up on all kinds of defensive Pokemon with Bulk Up Scrafty, nevermind Reuniclus. Just know that it can't come in and stop you the way it does Conkeldurr.
I never said you had to use both Amnesia and Bulk Up at the same time, but you could give Scrafty Max HP and some Attack and Defense, then Amnesia to +2 or +4. But the problem is critical hits could always come and F up your day from either side of the spectrum.
Bulk up scrafty is NOT outclassed by conkeldurr they share a setup move yeah, but they play completely differentely. conkeldurr is used to punch holes into the opponent's team early game while scrafty plays more like snorlax. bulky, moderatly powerful, and extremely hard to take down if they are the last pokemon. (I have won several matches 1-0 because scrafty pulls through). If anything scrafty is getting competition from snorlax, and cause snorlax is UU it is pretty obvious who is winning.
I completely agree with this. Conkeldurr DOESN'T have Rest, and he DOESN't have 65/115/115 defenses. What Conkeldurr does is, as kyurem said, to punch holes early-game. But what Scrafty does, is to Bulk Up and then REST, not just attack and punch holes. Scrafty is very bulky and can take LOADS of hits. I'd compare it to Reuniclus.
And yes, Scrafty DOESN'T counter CM reuniclus. The calc proved it.
You missed another thing. Roob doesnt have Shed Rest, Ip, DD (if you wish), a nice psy immunity, a dark STAB, and Moxie if you wanna go that way (Damn. Eq Spiral or even overconfidence would have been such a cooler name)
Uh, yes it does >.>.
BTW, 105 / 95 defenses are nothing to scoff at, actually I think it might be a tad bit bulkier then Scarfy on the defense side, but I don't feel like doing the calculations right now.
He means Shed Skin and Rest.
Without Shed Skin, Rest on Conkeldurr is kind of a bad idea, which is what he was saying I believe.
Conkeldurr has no business using Rest anyways, it's got Drain Punch. At least with Shed Skin, Scrafty has the option of using Rest if it needed to, although it has Drain Punch as well.
lol scrafty must be arceus's gifted child/the most beloved. lets see why.
1) great offensive typing. unresisted STABS except for heracross and toxicroak? thank you arceus
2) great bulk 60/130/130 is really good. like good good.
3) the move pool. crunch, drain punch, elemental punches, strongest fighting move, dragon dance and no move illegalities because of smeargle? thank you again.
4) the abilities. acces to one of the best abilities in game (all three) is a godsend. intimidate? damn good. easy switchin. shed skin? status imunity anyone? moxie: goddamn nice for a pokemn wwho is a physical sweeper!
5) looks. come on. it has pants. only machamp can defend the title.
6) the name. zuruzukin is badass. scrafty is too.
he must be arceus's facorite kid.
he was my favorite poke for a while too. now it is virizion or volcarona.
1) great offensive typing. unresisted STABS except for heracross and toxicroak? thank you arceus
2) great bulk 60/130/130 is really good. like good good.
3) the move pool. crunch, drain punch, elemental punches, strongest fighting move, dragon dance and no move illegalities because of smeargle? thank you again.
4) the abilities. acces to one of the best abilities in game (all three) is a godsend. intimidate? damn good. easy switchin. shed skin? status imunity anyone? moxie: goddamn nice for a pokemn wwho is a physical sweeper!
5) looks. come on. it has pants. only machamp can defend the title.
6) the name. zuruzukin is badass. scrafty is too.
he must be arceus's facorite kid.
he was my favorite poke for a while too. now it is virizion or volcarona.
its 65/115/115 but otherwise agreed, i guess gamefreak made scrafty to become more popular with teens. think about it we all love scrafty, both aestheticaly and competitively right. scrafty is a beast and it was gifted by arceus above a whole lot.
You forgot that they gave him 90 Base Attack & 58 Base Speed meaning that, even at +1, he needs a Life Orb to be even intimidating to any Fighting-type that's...well...not another Scrafty. And on top of that he needs to run Jolly to beat Infernape & Mienshao when he's at +1 Speed, and that's assuming they're not running a Scarf set.
Once Scrafty gets 2 Dragon Dances in, that's when he's scary, but +0 Scrafty is just a joke. I would switch in a Scarf Tyranitar on Scrafty the turn after he switches in & OHKO him with Superpower as he Dragon Dances because I know that without a boost Scrafty will not attack no matter what Pokemon I have on deck. He has absolutely no business attacking without a boost. 279 Attack with a Lum Berry/Leftovers is an absolute joke. Drain Punch + Life Orb is a 97 Base Power Attack. That's really bad with his low Attack Stat especially when running Jolly. Life Orb Hi Jump Kick actually is really good at +1, but that's all he has to beat his Fighting-type brothers. If you're not running Life Orb Hi Jump Kick, don't run Dragon Dance at all. I can provide you with plenty of calcs that tell you that Drain Punch will just get you KO'd.
Bulk Up is only slightly better. Assuming you're running Max HP/Sp.Def, a +1 Drain Punch will do 75.1% - 89.1% to -1 Defense 0/0 Infernape while a Close Combat from Scarf Infernape (not even Life Orb) will do 59.9% - 70.7% to +1 Bulk Up Scrafty. If Scrafty survives 2 Close Combats using Drain Punch, it's promptly picked off by a light breeze from whatever Pokemon they send in next due to Scrafty's terrible Speed & the fact that the second Drain Punch would only take less than 10% of Infernape's remaining HP. Infernape's just an example though. Almost any Fighting-type can be used in that same example. Infernape is just one of the weakest stat-wise examples that came to mind.
I love Scrafty, I'm not trying to bash it at all, but I'm not seeing a reason for the hype in this thread. Scrafty really should be UU. In fact it would do fantastically in UU as it wouldn't have to worry about all the Bulky/Speedy Fighting-types & Scarf Pokemon that OU is littered with. Aside from just the cool factor of using something called "the Hoodlum Pokemon", there's no reason this thing should be OU. And I fully understand that not every team will have a Fighting-type or something that checks Scrafty and that Scrafty is a late-game sweeper, but there's just so many things that stop Scrafty in OU that I just don't see why this Pokemon is good.
Once Scrafty gets 2 Dragon Dances in, that's when he's scary, but +0 Scrafty is just a joke. I would switch in a Scarf Tyranitar on Scrafty the turn after he switches in & OHKO him with Superpower as he Dragon Dances because I know that without a boost Scrafty will not attack no matter what Pokemon I have on deck. He has absolutely no business attacking without a boost. 279 Attack with a Lum Berry/Leftovers is an absolute joke. Drain Punch + Life Orb is a 97 Base Power Attack. That's really bad with his low Attack Stat especially when running Jolly. Life Orb Hi Jump Kick actually is really good at +1, but that's all he has to beat his Fighting-type brothers. If you're not running Life Orb Hi Jump Kick, don't run Dragon Dance at all. I can provide you with plenty of calcs that tell you that Drain Punch will just get you KO'd.
Bulk Up is only slightly better. Assuming you're running Max HP/Sp.Def, a +1 Drain Punch will do 75.1% - 89.1% to -1 Defense 0/0 Infernape while a Close Combat from Scarf Infernape (not even Life Orb) will do 59.9% - 70.7% to +1 Bulk Up Scrafty. If Scrafty survives 2 Close Combats using Drain Punch, it's promptly picked off by a light breeze from whatever Pokemon they send in next due to Scrafty's terrible Speed & the fact that the second Drain Punch would only take less than 10% of Infernape's remaining HP. Infernape's just an example though. Almost any Fighting-type can be used in that same example. Infernape is just one of the weakest stat-wise examples that came to mind.
I love Scrafty, I'm not trying to bash it at all, but I'm not seeing a reason for the hype in this thread. Scrafty really should be UU. In fact it would do fantastically in UU as it wouldn't have to worry about all the Bulky/Speedy Fighting-types & Scarf Pokemon that OU is littered with. Aside from just the cool factor of using something called "the Hoodlum Pokemon", there's no reason this thing should be OU. And I fully understand that not every team will have a Fighting-type or something that checks Scrafty and that Scrafty is a late-game sweeper, but there's just so many things that stop Scrafty in OU that I just don't see why this Pokemon is good.
I think anything with two DD's and Dual Screens up would sweep a team.