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[Delibird is Amazing]

Does knock off on z-crystals work like sticky hold or does it work like mega stones?

 

[da gold sun]

What is the interaction between Spirit Shackle and Baton Pass? Does it work like Mean Look/Spider Web passing (the trap continues with the bp)?

 

[Imperator Romanum]

Can we create a suspect discussion thread if possible? I'd be nice to have a place where the community could discuss what they believe should or shouldn't be suspected. Purely discussion ofc.

 

[Ash Borer]

Can we create a suspect discussion thread if possible? I'd be nice to have a place where the community could discuss what they believe should or shouldn't be suspected. Purely discussion ofc.

ask one of the mods of the uncharted territory forum

What is the interaction between Spirit Shackle and Baton Pass? Does it work like Mean Look/Spider Web passing (the trap continues with the bp)?

trap passing hasnt worked since gen V or IV I cant remember, but it doesnt work anymore

 

[Gotham Paladin]

Does knock off on z-crystals work like sticky hold or does it work like mega stones?

I'm very positive you cannot knock off a z move, I would test to confirm though!

 

[fanyfan]

Are the Silvally forms going to be tiered separately or as one mon?

 

[Fuzzysqurl]

Does knock off on z-crystals work like sticky hold or does it work like mega stones?

I'm very positive you cannot knock off a z move, I would test to confirm though!

You can't lose a Z-Crystal once you hold it (Trick, Fling, Knock Off, etc.).

 

[Karxrida]

Are the Silvally forms going to be tiered separately or as one mon?

Separately.

 

[S1GH]

What natures should I go for, for Sun legendaries?

I'm guessing Jolly for Solgaleo to outspeed 95s

 

[Jojobobo]

Is the ban of Zygarde Complete Form just in OU and not in Pokebank OU? I've seen someone using it there, while Pokebank OU gives you a few more options I don't think having Zygarde in there is any less broken than in regular OU, so I was wondering if this was an oversight?

 

[HC]

Is the ban of Zygarde Complete Form just in OU and not in Pokebank OU? I've seen someone using it there, while Pokebank OU gives you a few more options I don't think having Zygarde in there is any less broken than in regular OU, so I was wondering if this was an oversight?

The tier leaders are only focusing on post-bank due to that being the meta that we're going to be using once pokebank's out.

 

[Höhe]

So we're basically forced to play postbank if we don't want to play in a totally broken meta? Why have pre bank at all then?

 

[STEELDRAGON]

Do we know the exact date in January yet that pre generation will be transferable to Sun and Moon?

 

[HC]

Not an exact date, but it's expected to be ready in January

 

[viol and bass]

So we're basically forced to play postbank if we don't want to play in a totally broken meta? Why have pre bank at all then?

I think it's more likely that bans are based on the postbank meta, but that they carry over to the prebank meta. So for instance Power Construct would be banned in both, based on its brokenness in the postbank meta. Can someone confirm this?

 

[Höhe]

A few hours ago Zygarde C was still legal on Pre bank.

 

[Agent Gibbs]

According to Serebii, Shore Up restores 100% health in Sandstorm instead of 66% like the other weather-based healing moves. Is that actually the case, or is that a mistake? Because if it's true, that makes Palossand quite a bit more interesting.

 

[Jojobobo]

The tier leaders are only focusing on post-bank due to that being the meta that we're going to be using once pokebank's out.

Postbank was the one I was referring too, maybe they just took a little time to enforce the ban. I haven't checked yet tonight so maybe it's now working as anticipated.

 

[Boomfan56]

Anyone know why I can't use Abomasite in Pokebank OU?

 

[Jojobobo]

Can anyone remember where to post bugs for Showdown? Just had Weakness Policy activate for Mimikkyu on the Disguise turn, see this replay.

EDIT:

Anyone know why I can't use Abomasite in Pokebank OU?

I didn't think you can transfer items into the Bank, can you? If so, that's why, because the item isn't in the game in Sun and Moon.

 

[Zukrad]

So, with Lopunny unavaliable as of rigth now, making the 128/128/252 set kind of a waste, what would be the best set for suicide lead Azelf?

Can we use old gens moves (Like GunkShot Greninja?).

PD: No Mega Luc T_T

Yes, but only in Pokebank OU

Do Z-moves bypass King's Shield like Protect so 25% of the original power and if there physical z-moves do they get the attack drop?

That's actually a very good question for the Battle Mechanics Researh Tread

Is there an updated speed tier list somewhere?

Sun & Moon Speed tiers

Does Zygarde stay at Complete after Power Construct activates, even if it goes above 50% health?

Yes

 

[VCrakeV]

Any offensive checks to Aegislash and Pheromosa? Not necessarily in one 'mon, of course.

I prefer an offensive style of play, so I'd rather not use defensive checks.

 

[DarkEspeon]

This is probably going to end up being a dumb question, but what's this I've been hearing about Mega Sableye being nerfed in some way?

 

[VCrakeV]

This is probably going to end up being a dumb question, but what's this I've been hearing about Mega Sableye being nerfed in some way?

Mega-evolved Pokémon now inherit their new speed stat and ability when calculating turn order on the turn they mega evolve. In Sableye's case, it means it can't take advantage of prankster the turn it mega evolves. On the other hand, Mega Banette can use prankster the turn it mega evolves. Mega Beedrill no longer needs protect, because it uses its new speed the turn it mega evolves.

And so on. This applies to every mega Pokémon.

 

[DarkEspeon]

Mega-evolved Pokémon now inherit their new speed stat and ability when calculating turn order on the turn they mega evolve. In Sableye's case, it means it can't take advantage of prankster the turn it mega evolves. On the other hand, Mega Banette can use prankster the turn it mega evolves. Mega Beedrill no longer needs protect, because it uses its new speed the turn it mega evolves.

And so on. This applies to every mega Pokémon.

Ah. I figured that would be it. Thanks!