Rugged Helm on defensive sets works pretty well, especially since you'll be switching into physical fighting attacks a lot and 1/6 passive damage really adds up.
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Slowbro
- Thread starter Megan_Fox
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Well the main reason why Slack Off is even considered to not be used is because you have Regeneration + Lefties already. I understand that Slack Off is an instant 50% heal though, and it doesn't force you to switch to use, but I think that if you can manage on Regeneration + Lefties instead, you can free up a moveslot for either coverage or support.
Eh. Even with regeneration and lefties, I see the awesomeness of that near 50% boost just from that... But seeing as I run him as a CM sweeper, I would never want to switch him to heal and drop those stat raises unless I knew I was going to get swept if I left him in.
Throw an anti-weather somewhere. By using the move hail you basically negate weather effects. And, your basically screwed if Politoed, Ninetales, Sand stream sweeper is gone.
been using this with the slack off/flamethrower/boiling water/toxic set above and it's great, i love it. i'll change boiling water to surf (the only advantages it has over surf imo is when you break subs and you have the 30% chance to burn rather than waiting for it to sub up again and using up lum berries). i use lefties too, i don't think rugged helmet will help so much bareing in mind the amount of contact moves there are, although it will help counter fighting types.
lmitchell0012
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It's very disappointing that he doesn't get waterfall/aqua tail. If he did, he may be able to pull off a belly drum set on a trick room team.
Slowbro DOES get Aqua Tail...
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TBH this is better suited to Slowking. They have negligible stat differences and the inability to predict the latter is far greater.
lmitchell0012
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What EV's should a bold slowbro with HP electric run. Should I just max out defense and hp?? Also, what should I put the last 4 EV's in (I want to have an ideal leftovers number).
Slowbro is so pro, i love him in my TR tam since he can just use TR and sweep, scald and flamethrower is great for haxy burn support, but the fact that he can just return and set the TR over and over again is just perfect (also, for ome reason, people don't think slowbro uses psyquic and they swich fighting types to use him as a set up fodder, bad idea, and not even he counters almost every fighting type in the game, he doesn't die, not a lot of physical things can OHKO him at max HP
lmitchell0012
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Flamethrower should be on EVERY set for dealing with ferrothorn (and scizor). If not, he's switching in on you every time pretty easily.
Well STAB Surf/Scald hits Scizor almost as hard and you have to switch out of Scizor anyway. Ferrothorn doesn't particularly enjoy risking a burn from Scald, but yeah Flamethrower cooks him.
Uh STAB Surf is 95x1.5=142.5, Flamethrower is 95x4=380. That's more than twice as much damage, hardly 'almost as hard'.
Slowbro (and Slowking) are the ONLY specially inclined water-type OU Pokemon that has access to Flamethrower, and that should be a big deal, one of it's niche even. I strongly agree that it should always be used to deal with all those grass and steel types resisting your STABs.
lmitchell0012
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Yes, but he doesn't get them BOTH.
Also, just wanted to add that he also gets fire blast as well. If you want extra damage, it's available, but I prefer accurate moves.
Another thing I wanted to add is that trick is illegal with regenerator, which is unfortunate...
And you would need both Aqua Tail and Waterfall... why?
lmitchell0012
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It's nice to have options. Aqua tail for those of us who feel like being 'risky', and waterfall is a solid STAB move for those of us who like to play it safe.
Nice =/= necessary. I hardly see how 10% would really matter if you wanted to go for a set, although I'm not sure if it can pull off Belly Drum that well anyway.
I'd rather use one move or the other rather than both in this instance. I'd go with Aqua Tail since Slowbro is too slow to take advantage of the flinch chance and it's bulky enough to afford the occasional miss from Aqua Tail, assuming it recovers before attacking.
A Trick Room Snorlax set with Flamethrower, Scald, Psychic... what Nature is that?
I do believe you mean Slowbro...
And I'd imagine that it'd be Quiet given that it's a Trick Room Slowbro.
Personally I'd prefer Relaxed Calm Mind...
Something like this?:
-Calm Mind
-Scald/Surf
-Psychic/Slack Off
-Trick Room
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SpD
IVs: 0 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
It was hard fitting in Slack Off in there because while switching gets Regenerator ready, it also erases your CM boosts. Also, having Surf or Scald as a lone attack leaves you walled by Jellicent and Vaporeon if Slack Off is used.