Small Objective Changes - (Typos, Poor Wording, Etc.)

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DO NOT EDIT YOUR POSTS IN THIS THREAD. DOUBLE POST. TRIPLE POST, BUT DO *NOT* EDIT.

Post small changes to pages on the site here. Fundamental idea: if there is something wrong with a page on the site and your fix does not change the structure of it, then post it here instead of making a new topic. (Quick addition: if your change is controversial, this is not the topic for it. Post a new topic with your ideas so others can criticize them.)

Why are there no posts here?: When something gets fixed in this thread the post is deleted, don't be weirded out by the lack of posts!

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When corrections are made by Site Staff, the post reporting the error will be deleted.

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~ It would be wonderful if you linked to the page you want to correct, that makes fixing it that much quicker. Please link to the page on the site. I'm tired of trying to find the page to edit something, only to read through the whole thing and realize you were talking about the ADV analysis or something dumb. If you just say something like "Geodude needs to have 5 more Attack EVs on its Rock Throw set" without linking to the analysis, you will be infracted. If you can't take the time to just add a link, then it's not that helpful.

~ If the errors you find are limited to certain parts of a page, it's a great idea to clarify in which areas your edits are located. For example, "On Kakuna's 'Ubers Support' set, x needs to be capitalized". Better yet is quoting the context so the section you're talking about is quickly and easily found.

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NOTICE #3: I've noticed that for some reason on the credits page that strings of text will move around the page in between edits from when a person edits the page and when someone caches it. Nobody is doing this on purpose, and it irritates me that it happens, though it mostly happens at the very bottom of the page after the last </dd> tag. For a while there it was "Symphx" that was jumping down, and then a few times it was "ed seve" that jumped. IDK why or how this happens, just be aware that it does.
 
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Smeargle can learn Stealth Rock in DP. He is currently not listed as a user.
Technically, Smeargle only "learns" Sketch. However, considering Sketch can't copy every move, I'll look into changing Smeargle's learnset to everything it can currently copy with Sketch, as listing it as a learner of said move on the move's page is probably more important than being technically correct.
 
https://www.smogon.com/ingame/guides/emerald_itemlocations
Some TMs can be obtained for clearing the Trainer Hill in 12 minutes.
TM11 sunny day: normal mode
TM19 giga drain: unique mode
TM31 brick break: expert mode
Dragon Scale
Held by wild Bagon.
I think they can also be held by wild Horsea.
Leaf Stone
Route 119: In a small corner amongst a gropu of skinny trees next to the top of a small waterfall. Route 124: Diving Treasure Hunter (Trade one Green Shard).

Sun Stone
Mossdeep City: In the white stone at the base of the Space Center. Held by wild Solrock.
It's received from a sailor inside the Space Center. For some reason, the screenshot is good. Only the text is wrong.
 
https://www.smogon.com/ingame/guides/chaining
Quick Ball (Decreases by 1 after every 5 turns): 4
Bulbapedia says it starts at 4 and decreases to 1 on the second turn.
Dusk Ball (Rate is 1 when it is not night): 4
Bulbapedia says the multiplier is 3.5.
Nest Ball (Depending on the level): 3
If the multiplier depends on the level, then it should be obvious that the multiplier isn't always 3. The article should probably include the entire formula, which according to Bulbapedia, is max(40 - wild Pokemon's level) / 10, 1).
Timer Ball(Increases by 1 after every 10 turns): 1
Bulbapedia says it increases by 0.1 every 1 turn until it reaches 4.
Soundproof/Suction Cups
Although Taunt is usually more convenient, Soundproof prevents wild Pokémon from using Roar on you, and Suction Cups nullifies both Roar and Whirlwind.

Pokémon: Voltorb, Electrode, Mime Jr., Mr. Mime, Whismur, Loudred, Exploud, Lileep, Cradily.
This one is missing Octillery.

https://www.smogon.com/ingame/guides/dpp_pokeradar
The chain will never break when encountering the same species in a patch of grass,
I haven't tested this in DP, but I know that in Pt, sometimes my chain will break when I encounter a Pokemon of the same species that I was chaining. I know this thread is for corrections that we know for sure are wrong, not for edits that "probably should" happen. But I still thought it's a convenient time to mention that if you have the "trainer counter" app open on the Poketch while you're chaining, and you walk into a patch of grass that breaks the chain, then you can see the top bar go blank before the battle starts. I think this probably should be mentioned in the guides.

Additionally, there are inconsistencies between the 2 guides, and for some of them, I don't know which one is right. The first 1 is about the number of kinds of grass patches.
Unlike regular patches, there are multiple variants of flashing patches.
Here, we can see 2 different types of grass shaking.
This 1 is about the effective differences between the different kinds of grass.
Poké Radar Exclusives are Pokémon that only appear using the Poké Radar, and only appear in flashing patches.
There are 3 that have leaves jumping around, and one that just shakes gently. There isn't too much different about these to my knowledge.
This 1 is about formations.
After extensive testing, the following have been determined to be the safest formations in the game. Results may vary with the appearance rate of the target Pokémon, but all of these formations should have a success rate of at least 90%. They are also ranked from most successful to least successful, with the first formation having a phenomenal success rate of at least 98%.
I have come across a few tutorials on chaining saying that there are bad formations, or formations that might trade probabilities between patches. These are all myths. After some research in the ASM of the game, I found no such case where this applied. Long story short, the patches have the percentages as listed in this guide, regardless of other patches touching them, or lack of patches touching each other.
The "ways to break your chain" list are slightly different.
  • Entering a patch that does not contain your Pokémon (this can occur for many reasons).
  • Entering an edge patch that contains your Pokémon, but having the subsequent patches all activate outside of your field.
  • Entering the wrong type of patch.
  • Forgetting to use a Repel.
  • Moving so that all the patches most recently activated are out of view.
  • Being Roared or Whirlwinded by a Pokémon.
  • Resetting the Poké Radar on an edge patch.
  • Using the bicycle.
Here is a list of things that will break your chain:

  • Turning off the power.
  • Moving away so that all patches that shook are offscreen (careful about this one).
  • Using your bike.
  • Forgetting to re-apply a Repel and encountering a random wild battle.
  • No patches shook as a result of each tile that was supposed to shake not being a grass tile (this is why you should be cautious about edges of grass and corners). If you have 8 grass tiles surrounding you (all tiles in the red zone are grass), then you don't need to worry about this. (That's also why Route 222 is probably the best for chaining.)
  • That unlucky chance your chain will break. The lowest this chance will get is 2%, which is pretty low. If you only go to the blue zone, it will be a 12% chance that your chain will break at most, but keep the risk of edges and corners in mind.
 
https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/moves/blast_burn/
https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/moves/frenzy_plant/
https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/moves/hydro_cannon/
NFE starters, Silvally, and elemental monkeys are listed as getting the elemental hyperbeams when (for the most part) they don't get them

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/moves/grass_pledge/
Silvally is not listed as getting Grass Pledge

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/crobat/
Checks and Counters
Physically Defensive Pokemon: Despite Crobat's access to Brave Bird in tandem with Flyinium Z, some physically bulky foes cannot be effectively broken by Crobat. Hippowdon can set up Stealth Rock or heal with Slack Off, Rhyperior can also set the entey hazard and is less vulnerable to Taunt, and Alomomola has access to Regenerator, allowing it to recover HP even when afflicted by Taunt.
entey should be entry


https://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/pokemon/terrakion/battle_spot_doubles/
Location: Standard set, Set Details
A Jolly nature is typically the better nature on this Terrakion set, as it makes the most out of Terrakion's Speed stat and allows Quick Guard to block more Fake Outs than Terrakion could with Adamant, such as Meinshao and Jolly Mega Kangaskhan.
Meinshao should be Mienshao

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/porygon2/monotype/
Location: Physically Defensive (Normal) set, Moves
Discharge can be used over Toxic for its good coverage alongside Ice Beam and its decent chance to paralyse the foe.
paralyse should be paralyze

https://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/pokemon/landorus-therian/battle_spot_singles/
Checks and Counters
Strong Special Attackers: Landorus-T often relies on Intimidate to check physical attackers, but it has no way to take powerful speical attacks if it doesn't have an Assault Vest.
speical should be special

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/mienfoo/
Other Options
Both Flyinium Z with Bounce and Poisinium Z with Poison Jab can be used to give Mienfoo a high-power Z-Move to lure in opposing Fighting-and Fairy-types, respectively, but they come at the cost of the bulk Eviolite provides.
Poisinium Z should be Poisonium Z

https://www.smogon.com/dex/bw/pokemon/floatzel/uu/
Location: Choice Band set, paragraph 3
Donphan is also immune to the dangerous Electic-type moves, and it's able to set up Stealth Rock as well.
Electic should be Electric

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/hippowdon/monotype/
Overview
Lastly, Hippowdon's Ground typing makes it weak to Water, Grass, and Ice, which are common offensive types and commonly used as coverage moves, making it harder for Hippowdown to perform well as a defensive Pokemon.
Hippowdown should be Hippowdon

https://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/pokemon/dragonite/
Location: Dragon Dance set, Team Options
As a bonus, Mega Charizard Y sets sun, negating Tyranitar's and Hippowdown's sand.
Hippowdown should be Hippowdon

https://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/pokemon/xatu/
Location: Pivot set, Team Options
Naturally, any Pokemon that has a weakness to Stealth Rock such as Scyther, Pyroar, or Vivilion, is a good teammate, as it appreciates Xatu's ability to keep entry hazards, which would otherwise severely cripple, it off the field.
Vivilion should be Vivillon

https://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/pokemon/conkeldurr/ou/
Location: Assault Vest set, Moves
Poison Jab is a final option that targets Fairy-types such as Azumarill, Clefable, Mega Gardevior, and Sylveon, dealing decent damage to them all.
Gardevior should be Gardevoir

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/houndour/
Location: Life Orb set, Team Options
Houndour appreciates entry hazard removal from the likes of Staryu or Drillbur, as otherwise it struggles to be nearly as effective when Stealth Rock is up.
Drillbur should be Drilbur

https://www.smogon.com/dex/bw/pokemon/armaldo/
Checks and Counters
Even with Rain up, Armaldo is still very slow and is outsped by common Choice Scarf users such as Primape, Rotom-A, and Charizard, which can take down Armaldo at low health.
Primape should be Primeape

https://www.smogon.com/dex/dp/pokemon/oddish/
Location: Sunny Day Special Attacker set, paragraph 3
Good candidates to set up Sunny Day include, but are not limited to: Aipom, Bellsprout, Growlithe, Drifloon, Exeggute, Koffing, and Duskull.
Exeggute should be Exeggcute

https://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/pokemon/sliggoo/
Overview
Sap Sipper furthers Sliggoo's walling capabilities, letting it serve as a hard counter to Liligant without Hidden Power Ice, one of NU's most fearsome Pokemon, as well as granting it the ability to switch into Sleep Powder from the likes of Lilligant and Vivillon.
Offensive set, Set Details
Eviolite is used to give Sliggoo a significant increase to both of its defensive stats, letting it switch into Pokemon such as Magmortar and Liligant much more comfortably.
Liligant should be Lilligant x2

https://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/pokemon/swellow/
Location: Choice Specs set, Moves
Sleep Talk makes Swellow a decent sleep absorber, coming in on Pokemon such as Vileplume and Liligant while also being able to dish out huge damage and burn sleep turns.
Liligant should be Lilligant

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/golurk/
Other Options
A Choice Band can be used to make Golurk a wallbreaker; however, Golurk prefers not to be Choice-locked because being locked into Earthquake gives free setup opportunities to Pokemon like Liligant.
Liligant should be Lilligant

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/dugtrio-alola/
Location: All-out Attacker set, Team Options
Liligant also appreciates Alolan Dugtrio's Memento support, which eases its setup.
Liligant should be Lilligant

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/carbink/
Other Options
A Calm Mind RestTalk set can be run on Carbink; however, Carbink needs several boosts to become threatening due to its mediocre offensive stats, and this set is setup fodder for threatening sweepers such as Liligant and Carracosta.
Liligant should be Lilligant

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/primeape/
Location: Choice Scarf set, Usage Tips
Close Combat is Primeape's main revenge killing tool and its coverage, most notably Earthquake, should be used sparingly because it's weak and easily taken advantage of, allowing Pokemon like Musharna and Liligant to set up for free.
Liligant should be Lilligant


https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/dragalge/monotype/
Overview
  • By virtue of its secondary Poison-typing, Dragalge is the only Dragon-type with a neutrality to Fairy-types, allowing it to pivot into Fairy-types such as Tapu Koko, Azumaril, and Tapu Bulu.
Azumaril should be Azumarill

https://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/pokemon/chesnaught/ou/
Location: Physical Tank set, Usage TIps
If Spiky Shield is not being run, instead use Wood Hammer to force out Pokemon such as Azumaril and Gyarados.
Azumaril should be Azumarill

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/chandelure/monotype/
Checks and Counters
Bulky Water-types: Bulky Water-types such as Toxapex, Sap Sipper Azumaril, and Mantine can all wear Chandelure down with Scald while tanking Shadow Ball and Energy Ball.
Azumaril should be Azumarill

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/azumarill/battle_spot_singles/
Location: Belly Drum set
Focusing too much on trying to set up can end up wasting Azumaril's chance of doing anything.
Azumaril should be Azumarill

https://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/pokemon/keldeo/monotype/
Location: Wallbreaker (Fighting) set, Team Options
Both can also take out Azumaril, one of Keldeo's main checks, with either a Fake Out and Zen Headbutt combination or Bullet Seed, respectively.
Azumaril should be Azumarill

https://www.smogon.com/dex/dp/pokemon/lucario/
Other Options
Focus Sash is a decent alternative item on the Sword Dance set, as it can ensure a second Swords Dance if you can keep the field clear of hail, Spikes, and Stealth Rock.
Sword Dance should be Swords Dance

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/gallade/nu/
Location: Swords Dance set, Moves
Sword Dance doubles Gallade's power to terrifying heights, making its attacks hit incredibly hard.
Sword Dance should be Swords Dance

https://www.smogon.com/dex/rs/pokemon/feraligatr/
Location: Physical Sweeper set
It's basically your standard physical sweeper, Earthquake and Hidden Power Flying are an attempt to cover its two weaknesses, Sword Dance to boost them, and Hydro Pump to hit the Pokemon with higher Defense, scoring an easier kill on Sandslash, Golem and friends.
Sword Dance should be Swords Dance

https://www.smogon.com/dex/rs/pokemon/qwilfish/
Location: Flail set
Sword Dance to boost the power of Flail, Endure to get down to 1 HP and get the Salac boost, and then nail whatever you can with Flail.
Sword Dance should be Swords Dance

https://www.smogon.com/dex/dp/pokemon/corphish/
Checks and Counters
However, it should be wary of switching into Return from the Dragon Dance and Sword Dance sets.
Sword Dance should be Swords Dance

https://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/pokemon/excadrill/uber/
Checks and Counters
Landorus-T: Intimidate, respectable physical bulk, and its decent typing mean that Landorus-T can take on Excadrill one-on-one and win fairly comfortably. It struggles with Air Balloon and Sword Dance setsbut is otherwise solid against Excadrill.
Sword Dance should be Swords Dance. Also there is no space in setsbut.

https://www.smogon.com/dex/bw/pokemon/oddish/
Other Options
Oddish could run a Sword Dance set, though its Attack is rather low and its physical movepool is quite shallow, consisting of only Seed Bomb and Double-Edge.
Sword Dance should be Swords Dance

https://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/pokemon/metagross/cap/
Checks and Counters
Mega Scizor can set up with Swords Dance and Roost off the damage, and after two Sword Dance boosts, a Knock Off will OHKO Mega Metagross, not to mention that the next Pokemon after Mega Metagross will have to deal with a boosted Mega Scizor.
Sword Dance should be Swords Dance

https://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/pokemon/espeon/battle_spot_singles/
Checks and Counters
Mega Mawile laughs at Espeon's attacks, even if its running Hidden Power Fire, being able to use Sword Dance or just Knock Off in return.
Sword Dance should be Swords Dance. Also its should be it's.
 
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https://www.smogon.com/ingame/guides/adv_tips
In Emerald, the Synchronize and Flame Body abilities were introduced. Unlike most others, these two abilities have an outside of battle effect.
These abilities were introduced in Ruby and Sapphire. They were given out-of-battle effects in Emerald.

https://www.smogon.com/ingame/guides/dpp_tips
The Soothe Bell can be obtained from either a maid at Mr. Backlot's Pokémon Mansi

+2on,
or from Cheryl after travelling through Eterna Forest (Platinum).
Also can you alert me if you delete this post?
 
I submit here some small mistakes to correct, but only the first is "important":
• for less than a month, the PU classification on the Smogon Dex has changed again: the viable mons but not PU by usage are no longer classified (only present in the category "Other Pokemon with Strategies"). Altaria and Silvally-Water should therefore not be classified as PU;
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• both Meowstic have the same menu sprite: replace that of the female with this one
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• there has been a change of menu sprites for Diancie, Steelix, Treecko, Combusken, Blaziken, Ludicolo, Nuzleaf, Shiftry, Sableye and Metagross between XY (
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and ORAS (
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I did some of the above related to "untiered" mons. Can't do anything about the sprites with my level of access.
 

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https://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/pokemon/duosion/

According to the last tier shifts of XY PU, Duosion doesn't have sufficient usages and therefore shouldn't be classified as PU
There are numerous mons under 3.41% usage in that last usage stats listed as PU in XY. These in theory should be called Untiered. However, this would require adding "Untiered" as a designation in gens prior to SM. I'm personally fine with that decision but feel it should be taken by someone with more authority.

The Dutch Plumberjack

Ariados
Banette
Bastiodon
Beartic
Beautifly
Beedrill
Bellossom
Bibarel
Butterfree
Carbink
Carnivine
Castform
Cherrim
Chimecho
Corsola
Dedenne
Delcatty
Delibird
Dewgong
Ditto
Dunsparce
Dustox
Emolga
Farfetch'd
Fearow
Furfrou
Furret
Gigalith
Girafarig
Glaceon
Glalie
Gogoat
Golduck
Gothitelle
Gourgeist
Gourgeist-Large
Gourgeist-Small
Heatmor
Huntail
Hypno
Illumise
Jumpluff
Kricketune
Ledian
Lopunny
Lunatone
Luvdisc
Luxray
Magcargo
Maractus
Masquerain
Meganium
Meowstic-F
Meowstic-M
Mightyena
Minun
Mothim
Noctowl
Octillery
Pachirisu
Parasect
Persian
Phione
Pidgeot
Plusle
Politoed
Purugly
Raticate
Regigigas
Sawsbuck
Seaking
Seviper
Shedinja
Simipour
Simisage
Simisear
Slaking
Solrock
Spinda
Stantler
Sudowoodo
Sunflora
Swalot
Swoobat
Tropius
Unfezant
Unown
Vanilluxe
Vespiquen
Volbeat
Wailord
Walrein
Watchog
Whiscash
Wigglytuff
Wobbuffet
Wormadam
Wormadam-Sandy
Wormadam-Trash


Meanwhile, with respect to your single request, I can certainly remove Duosion's PU classification, since it's an NFE and we wouldn't call it Untiered anyway.
 
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There are numerous mons under 3.41% usage in that last usage stats listed as PU in XY. These in theory should be called Untiered. However, this would require adding "Untiered" as a designation in gens prior to SM. I'm personally fine with that decision but feel it should be taken by someone with more authority.

The Dutch Plumberjack

Ariados
Banette
Bastiodon
Beartic
Beautifly
Beedrill
Bellossom
Bibarel
Butterfree
Carbink
Carnivine
Castform
Cherrim
Chimecho
Corsola
Dedenne
Delcatty
Delibird
Dewgong
Ditto
Dunsparce
Dustox
Emolga
Farfetch'd
Fearow
Furfrou
Furret
Gigalith
Girafarig
Glaceon
Glalie
Gogoat
Golduck
Gothitelle
Gourgeist
Gourgeist-Large
Gourgeist-Small
Heatmor
Huntail
Hypno
Illumise
Jumpluff
Kricketune
Ledian
Lopunny
Lunatone
Luvdisc
Luxray
Magcargo
Maractus
Masquerain
Meganium
Meowstic-F
Meowstic-M
Mightyena
Minun
Mothim
Noctowl
Octillery
Pachirisu
Parasect
Persian
Phione
Pidgeot
Plusle
Politoed
Purugly
Raticate
Regigigas
Sawsbuck
Seaking
Seviper
Shedinja
Simipour
Simisage
Simisear
Slaking
Solrock
Spinda
Stantler
Sudowoodo
Sunflora
Swalot
Swoobat
Tropius
Unfezant
Unown
Vanilluxe
Vespiquen
Volbeat
Wailord
Walrein
Watchog
Whiscash
Wigglytuff
Wobbuffet
Wormadam
Wormadam-Sandy
Wormadam-Trash


Meanwhile, with respect to your single request, I can certainly remove Duosion's PU classification, since it's an NFE and we wouldn't call it Untiered anyway.
The idea of expanding the Untiered list to Gen 6 is undoubtedly very relevant. Concretely, it can even be done also for the Gen 5: the last tier shifts of the BW NU date from October 2013 (and not from November). Here are the mons involved mons:
Arbok
Shiftry
Gigalith
Rampardos
Flareon
Marowak
Vileplume
Torterra
Rapidash
Lapras
Muk
Zebstrika
Camerupt
Ursaring
Audino
Glaceon
Luxray
Simipour
Raichu
Leafeon
Mightyena
Meganium
Articuno
Linoone
Dodrio
Beheeyem
Swoobat
Lopunny
Butterfree
Persian
Mantine
Jumpluff
Volbeat
Grumpig
Slaking
Rotom-Frost
Kingler
Emolga
Simisear
Banette
Regigigas
Hypno
Shuckle
Stunfisk
Victreebel
Shedinja
Golduck
Throh
Mawile
Mr. Mime
Heatmor
Relicanth
Raticate
Tropius
Simisage
Walrein
Beedrill
Beartic
Seviper
Swanna
Octillery
Parasect
Bibarel
Exploud
Wailord
Whiscash
Illumise
Wormadan-Trash
Glalie
Girafarig
Stoutland
Dunsparce
Pelipper
Kecleon
Masquerain
Huntail
Solrock
Leavanny
Fearow
Spinda
Granbull
Chimecho
Magcargo
Purugly
Lunatone
Seaking
Mothim
Stantler
Corsola
Noctowl
Dewgong
Ariados
Bellossom
Sudowoodo
Dustox
Furret
Lumineon
Maractus
Vanilluxe
Wormadan-Sandy
Vespiquen
Swallot
Phione
Wigglytuff
Unfezant
Chatot
Pidgeot
Delibird
Carnivine
Castform
Ledian
Beautifly
Minum
Pachirisu
Delcatty
Cherrim
Plusle
Farfetch'd
Sunflora
Kricketune
Watchog
Unow
Luvdisc
Wormadan
Fraxure
Combusken
Dragonair
Murkrow
Sneasel
Gabite
Natu
Machoke
Munchlax
Lairon
Lampent
Zweilous
Shelgon
Duosion
Togetic
Seadra
Vigoroth
Of course, it's in case if the decision is favorable. But it may be too complicated for previous generations: the Gen 4 hasn't usage statistics for the NU and nothing for preceding gens. The only way would be cutting according to viability rankings (as PU Old Gens already do), but the risk of labyrinthine system is too important.
 
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The PU and untiered distinctions won't be made for dpp and prior as concrete stats simply don't exist and pu was not accounted for until recently, well after the passing of the generation
 
Tapu Lele easily sets itself apart from a jungle of powerful wallbreakers in OU due to its unique and utile ability: Psychic Surge.

I know utile is a word but I have a feeling most people have no clue what it means. Can't we use a more common word in its place?
 

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Tapu Lele easily sets itself apart from a jungle of powerful wallbreakers in OU due to its unique and utile ability: Psychic Surge.

I know utile is a word but I have a feeling most people have no clue what it means. Can't we use a more common word in its place?
I would say no. "You can't build up a vocabulary without meeting any new words" is a quote that sticks out in my mind that sums up my feeling on this.
 
For the Griseous Orb page, I think its worth mentioning that it changes Giratina into its Origin Form, because it shows Giratina-A as a Pokemon recommended for it, even though that's technically not possible.
 
The description for the ability Contrary should be updated to specify that it does not affect stat changes caused by Z-moves. For example: if a pokemon with contrary were to use Z-celebrate, its stats would be boosted and not lowered. If it were to use Z-work up, it would boost its attack from the Z-move effect and then lower its attack and special attack from the effects of work up under contrary.
 

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