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NOC Smallstreet Mafia v2 Won by the Mafia (Clouds, Ehmcee, Dead By Daylight, Duskfall98)

ngl tracker is uh

kinda bad ngl

i don't foresee us losing out on much if mafia decide to shoot the tracker LOL

a town mayor is like the only role of much value we could lose IMO, and commuter and vengeful being outed obviously is a loss of value if they are town but tbh these roles are above rand mafia roles anyways.
Can't we catch an early role cop with trackers? If I read correctly jalmont's post tracker learns the targets of special actions. I feel like it's a useful role.
 
EBWOP: after a lynch tracker has a 1/16 chance of getting a guilty result, practically. and this is actually lower in practice because sometimes somebody could have a reasonable excuse for tar getting the person that dies (i.e., maybe a neighborizer lol).

but this could be mitigated to some degree if we have both trackers simply claim "tracker." That way, if mafia really were scared of a odd night tracker result, we could make them guess in the world where both are town.
 
Also D1 massclaim makes mafia spend less points in rolecop I don't really like it. If they want info they need to work for it! :mad:

there is a very high probability that we just break the game if we do a massclaim, and in the world where we can't its because the mafia team made strictly sub-optimal role decisions in which case *shrug* thats not the worst possible outcome IMO.
 
again the only thing I'm really worried about at all in a massclaim is outing the commuter, mayor, and vengeful

but i think that is highly worth it here.
 
In case they saved points for role cop they could use them on a role block instead whenever they want.

Did I understand tracker wrong? It says it can track mafia special actions targets. It doesn't say anything about standard night actions.
 
there is a very high probability that we just break the game if we do a massclaim, and in the world where we can't its because the mafia team made strictly sub-optimal role decisions in which case *shrug* thats not the worst possible outcome IMO.
We probably break the game but I'm not sure for what side :wo:
 
In case they saved points for role cop they could use them on a role block instead whenever they want.

Did I understand tracker wrong? It says it can track mafia special actions targets. It doesn't say anything about standard night actions.

ok roleblock is a legit point but its -2 points when a no kill is +3. tbh im not all that worried about either.

trackers can track BOTH standard and special actions, such as the roleblock you mentioned.
 
Eh

I'm getting tired of the long drawn out analyses.

Time for the vibes list

M2H
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Lechen
AngryPidgeon
ElectricityCat
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Tommy
Clouds
Skipper
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DbD
Alice
Pulsar
ImaginaryNeon (solve through mech later)
Apricity
HH
NE (on the verge of dropping to a SL actually)
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Ehmcee
StupidFlandrs48
Saberslasher11

HH, Alice, Pulsar, and Skipper placements were very high level tbh, i kind of just placed them somewhere that felt vaguely right.

:tyke: its not looking good for you friend
 
Does anyone have a meta opinion on Skipper? Skipper does seem to be comfortably interacting with the thread which is the basis for me not wanting to vote them. But I put them with Flandrs in my reads because there is something about both Flandrs/Skipper that gives me a slight pause.

as mentioned earlier i think skipper is town and i think his engagement and questions coming from town perspective and i think the conclusions he has overall made so far make sense (i think both flanders and skipper are town)
 
Im slightly away will full catch up later.
But to be clear I dont think anyone is saying the public vanilla vote confirms anything.

I do think that PV is more likely picked than other roles. If mafia did not recruit, then I dont see a world where they take PV. If they did recruit, that limits their pool of roles, but PV is a notable one in that pool and one which I think most people take over FV/Priest. Id say its nearly guaranteed that one of PV, Gladiator, Neighborizer is mafia in that case
 
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