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CAP 2 Smogon "Create a Pokemon" Part Deux: Poll 3
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More discussion please?
Anyways, I have to go Special. I love Deck Knight's idea of a much stronger McGar. SubPunch + Ghost move is awesome. The attack only needs to be in the range of 60-80 to work with Focus Punch. So more Special Defensive is good. I don't prefer either option of Ghost offensive moves; they are both pretty lacking. So I'm going to go with the one that is interesting.
Anyways, I have to go Special. I love Deck Knight's idea of a much stronger McGar. SubPunch + Ghost move is awesome. The attack only needs to be in the range of 60-80 to work with Focus Punch. So more Special Defensive is good. I don't prefer either option of Ghost offensive moves; they are both pretty lacking. So I'm going to go with the one that is interesting.
I see i didn't miss a new poll, so I'm happy. Also, my vote is winning! I feel if it is balanced then it would rival Scylant, making our creations counterable.
By the way, I'd like to clarify my vote. It is still Physical, but I'd like to point out that I like balanced defenses.
Since the OP mentions to explicitly state this, I did. So, to sum up, I want balanced defenses but with the attack stat being significantly higher than the special attack stat.
Since the OP mentions to explicitly state this, I did. So, to sum up, I want balanced defenses but with the attack stat being significantly higher than the special attack stat.
Physical.
We need more physical ghosts. Banette doesn't cover it
Edit: Balenced defenses though, don't waste that typing.
We need more physical ghosts. Banette doesn't cover it
Edit: Balenced defenses though, don't waste that typing.
I'd say 60 is a nice round number for base attack if it is to be a special-oriented mixed sweeper. 219 running maxed attack EVs (240 with a boosting nature) is more than enough to put a dent into Blissey/Snorlax/Regice with Focus Punch. STAB Fighting, even with a "bad" attack stat, is nothing to mock.
I don't understand why everyone is saying Physical and bolding that, but then adding a side note that they want balanced defenses. Isn't that what Balanced is?
that about sums it up: Physical with Special Defence and DECENT speed. I want a faster Spiritomb.
Did you not read the new OP? This is almost exactly why I didn't want to work with you, and you are proving me right as time goes along. Balanced is no longer an option. We are deciding Physical, Special, or Mixed. They want a Physical attacker, but with balanced defenses.
First of all, my comperter was down yesterday, so I did not know. Second of all, why the fuck would you change the options halfway through?
I still really would have enjoyed a
60/115/60/50/60/105, swords dance/cross chop/stone edge/dark blade( 50 BP ghost, 95 acc. move, that has 150 power after ability and STAB)
its too bad. oh well a physical tank with toned down giratina stats wouuld be very sexy =)
60/115/60/50/60/105, swords dance/cross chop/stone edge/dark blade( 50 BP ghost, 95 acc. move, that has 150 power after ability and STAB)
its too bad. oh well a physical tank with toned down giratina stats wouuld be very sexy =)
Because we finished that one. I am conducting all the polls on roll in this one thread. LIKE I SAID IN THE OP! Read the OP, not just the bolded parts.
Physical with alright speed, and decent defensive stats, much alike swampert.
mixed. Sorry.
The problem with that, and what I'm considering for my submitted spread, is that if we make it too slow it becomes an excellent Trick Roomer. While TR isn't too common, a pokemon with a 525 BST but 30 speed will undoubtably give Bronzong something else to strive for. I do agree with you however. Something that will have over 100 attack and 75+ Sp. Attack doesn't need to be fast with balanced defenses and excellent typing.
On that note, Hyra, you need to make a choice soon for the base stats. We could keep making OU pogeys with 500 BST minimum, but sooner or later the UUers will be upset. I know that tier is more often than not decided by moveset, but unless we limit this guy specifically to his STABs, it seems unlikely that he'll leave OU.
Uh... I already stated my opinion on us creating UU pokemon. We can't. I feel our goal should be to make a completely balanced metagame of about 40 Pokemon. If those Pokemon happen to be UU in the standard metagame, okay. But we can't what tier something is going to be. Also, I doubt any stat total under 500 will be chosen.
I think I'm going to leave the Physical/Special question open until tomorrow evening. Then I will update this with speed (which I feel is one of the most important things for us to decide). Once we have an attack orientation, a role orientation, and a speed orientation, we can move on to BST. Then we will decide on the stat spread of our Pokemon. Finally we decide art and then ability, moves, etc. should fall into place.
I know there are people who love the UU metagame and would love for us to add something for them. But if we created 40 something Pokemon and they are all OU, either we are replacing all but nine of the current OU or OU is drastically expanding. UU is already one of the largest and most varied metagames, they haven't even fully explored it yet. I do agree at some point we should aim for some UU Pokemon, but not until we have a substantial base of solid OU / BL ones (20 or so). Even then, I still want all of the Pokemon we create to be countered by other Pokemon we create. Garchomp recently took the #1 spot in Shoddy usage because it has no reall 100% counter (probably even in Ubers, but it is outclassed there).
Special. Would be fun to have a more special oriented fighting type plus Ghost has nothing for physical attacks. Shadow Claw doesn't cut it.
Close Combat or Aura Sphere? Shadow Ball or Shadow Claw? Mach Punch and Shadow Sneak (and Fake Out?)
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