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CAP 1 Smogon's First "Create a Pokemon": Reflections, Opinions, and Closing

Are You Satisfied with how the First "Create A Pokemon" Turned Out?

  • Yeah, I felt it was handled really well

    Votes: 147 42.5%
  • Well, it was alright, but a few changes need to be made

    Votes: 106 30.6%
  • No, I hated it

    Votes: 19 5.5%
  • I really liked it, but I think the pokemon is broken, so I'm going to be stupid and say no

    Votes: 43 12.4%
  • "Create A Pokemon?"

    Votes: 31 9.0%

  • Total voters
    346
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hows the baby sprite going?
hows the programing going?
are we going to have a japanese name for it?
whats it exact weight?
whats it exact height?
whats its footprint?
whats its habitat? (probably mountan but lets make this thing complet)
whats its exp. speed?
whats its wild hold item?
whats its color sceme? (look on serebii's pokedex, each pokemon has a color)
what other semi-pointless questions can we ask?
if these have been chosen can cooper edit them into the first post?
 
hows the baby sprite going?
hows the programing going? I hink we decided on Cyzir's original sprite for Syclant, or we are waiting on other options
are we going to have a japanese name for it? We might as well leave it to Nintendo to do that one
whats it exact weight? 100-130 was the approx. range everyone was saying
whats it exact height? Hmmmm: 5" 5' ?
whats its footprint? A large circle with four dots around it.
whats its habitat? Mountain
whats its exp. speed? Medium - Fast
whats its wild hold item? Nevermelt Ice (5%)
whats its color sceme? White/Blue
what other semi-pointless questions can we ask?
if these have been chosen can cooper edit them into the first post? I guess so. Most of them were just my guesses. I'm pretty sure about the Baby sprite.
My answers. Correct me if I'm wrong anyone.
 
hows the baby sprite going?
hows the programing going?

I hink we decided on Cyzir's original sprite for Syclant, or we are waiting on other options
i thought KOA said he was doing one, haveing a look a few pages back.
are we going to have a japanese name for it?

We might as well leave it to Nintendo to do that one
ok. unless someone here knows japanese we dont have much chance of geting a good name.
whats it exact weight?

100-130 was the approx. range everyone was saying
i know, but lets get a exact weight.
whats it exact height?

Hmmmm: 5" 5' ?
where did you get that from? if its oficial lets get cooper to edid it into the first post.
whats its footprint?

A large circle with four dots around it.
needs a drawing, but yea i agree.
whats its habitat?

Mountain
thought so, can this be edited in?
whats its exp. speed?

Medium - Fast
has this been chosen by lots of people or just you?
whats its wild hold item?

Nevermelt Ice (5%)
has this been chosen by lots of people or just you?
whats its color sceme?

White/Blue
which one? i say blue is better.
what other semi-pointless questions can we ask?
if these have been chosen can cooper edit them into the first post?

I guess so. Most of them were just my guesses. I'm pretty sure about the Baby sprite.
right, ok. cooper can you edit in soem of these?
and can someone draw the footprint?
 
Well, no one stepped up to those minor details (Item, EXP Points, Habitat, color scheme) so I took that as a cue to put some suggestions in there. The height was vaguely discussed and i remember that range, so maybe the middle number 115 Lbs? The height, I can't remember anyone posting that, so yeah. As for a drawing, I can make it on Photoshop, which is what I'll do now.

EDIT: Footprint
SyclantFootprint.png
 
Well, no one stepped up to those minor details (Item, EXP Points, Habitat, color scheme) so I took that as a cue to put some suggestions in there.
great, lets finish this.
The height was vaguely discussed and i remember that range, so maybe the middle number 115 Lbs?
have a look back and find what numbers people said, but 115 sounds ok to me.
The height, I can't remember anyone posting that, so yeah. As for a drawing, I can make it on Photoshop, which is what I'll do now.
i think you need to use paint so it looks in the same style as the games footprints, also do floating pokemon have footprints? i know birds do but what about stuff like bronzong and wezing? and is syclant floating?

EDIT: Footprint
SyclantFootprint.png

Edit: reposting this so people can find and comment on it

by lord sunday

[SET]
name: Mixant
move 1: Blizzard
move 2: Bug buzz
move 3: Brick Break
move 4: Substitute / Earth Power
item: Life Orb
ability: Compound Eyes
nature: Naive / Rash
evs: 200 Atk/ 56 Satk / 252 Spd

[SET COMMENTS]
Syclant has the ability to tear through many of the most common walls in D/P. Compound Eyes provided Syclant with an extremely high power 91% accurate STAB in the form of Blizzard. Brick Break deals with Blissey and will 2HKO 90% of the time. Bug buzz provides a strong STAB that deals with many opponents. Substitute can be used if you do not want to risk mispredicting, which will often force Syclant to switch out. It is also useful to absorb Thunder Waves from Blissey and Cresselia. If you do use substitute than Superpower becomes an option over Brick Break as it can 2HKO Blissey with less EVs.

If this set does not have sufficient Rapid Spin support, it will soon fall to passive damage. To combat this you can use Mountaineer over Compound Eyes, but only do this if you use an Abomasnow to set up hail or switch to the significantly weaker ice beam.

[SET]
name: Swords Ant
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Ice Shard / Ice Punch
move 3: X-Scissor
move 4: Brick Break / U-Turn
item: Life Orb / Expert Belt
ability: Mountaineer
nature: Adamant / Jolly
evs: 4 Def / 252 Atk / 252 Spd

[SET COMMENTS]
This is a full physical version of Syclant. It's attack reaches astronomical levels after a Swords Dance. Ice Shard takes care of anything that thinks it can switch in on the Swords Dance and out speed for a KO. Ice Punch provides a more reliable Ice STAB.

Fire fang, Thunder fang, Stone edge, Night slash or Shadow claw could be used over Brick Break / U-Turn. Fire fang dents Forretress, who would otherwise wall you, after a SD. Thunder fang is your best bet against Gyarados. Stone edge (or Rock slide if you don’t like the poor accuracy and want to take advantage of the flinch chance) has great coverage and can 1HKO some Pokemon you would otherwise have problems with after a Swords Dance. Night slash or Shadow claw can beat down Dusknoir and bulky psychics. Superpower is not an option on this set as the attack drop conflicts with sword dance.


[SET]
name: SpecsSycle
move 1: Ice Beam / Blizzard
move 2: Bug buzz
move 3: Super Power / Focus Blast
move 4: Earth Power
item: Choice Specs
ability: Mountaineer / Compound Eyes
nature: +Satk -Def / Timid / Modest
evs: 4 Def / 252 Satk / 252 Spd

[SET COMMENTS]
This set has the ability to do massage damage to most of the OU metagame, provided you predict right. If you run the low accuracy Blizzard and Focus Blast then use the Compound Eyes ability with heavy Rapid Spin support, as Syclant wants to have the ability to switch in and out freely with this set. If you don't want such a high-maintenance Poke than using running Mountaineer, Super Power and Ice beam allows you to still dent Blissey and also be immune to SR. Keep in mind that only Modest Nature and Focus Blast are able to 2HKO without SR.


[Other Options]
Stone Edge is a good option for dealing with the likes of Moltres and Articuno. Superpower is unable to 1HKO Blissey even with max Atk, so isn't of much note other than on the Choice Specs set, or to 2HKO with less EVs. Thunder Fang and Earth Power will 1HKO Gyarados and Heatran respectively, but don't be tempted to use them on anything that isn't 4x weak as unresisted STAB Blizzard or Bug buzz will usually do more. Most of the time its incredibly powereful STABs will cover it better than a single attack that hits Super Effective against a certain Poke. Choice Band is also an option if you don’t want to have to set up your Physical sweeper, but Syclant isn't build for repeated switch ins. Choice Scarf makes it a decent lead.


[EVs]
Neutral Natured Syclant with max Atk and Life Orb is never guaranteed to 2HKO Blissey with Break Break, but 200 EVs Provide a very reasonable chance and a guaranteed KO with SR in play. Any EVs Leftover from your main form of offence should go into Spd. Always make sure that Syclant can survive two switch ins to SR if running Compound Eyes. This means NEVER give it four Hp EVs. Either eight or none.


[Opinion]
Syclant can tear through some of D/P's prestige walls, but is extremely high maintenance. Its typing is a mixed bag. It has two wonderful STABs for an offensive Poke, but is hindered by a horrible SR weakness. Mountaineer takes care of this, but leaves it using a weaker STAB. If you can keep Syclant in good condition then it will be a great asset to your team.


[Counters]
Tentacruel is a good overall counter, but dies if Syclant is carrying Earth Power. Blissey is a good counter to the Spec set. Against the Mixant set, Blissey can come in on anything other than Brick Break and Substitute and can 1HKO Syclant with Flamethrower, or use a status move like Sing or Thunderwave. Priority moves, or Pokes that out speed Syclant can deal very heavy damage once they get in.

In order to survive, Syclant relies on its extremely powerful and accurate STAB moves and its impunity to Stealth Rock. Taking either one of these away will weaken it significantly. If it is running the Compound Eyes ability, an opponent that can use Stealth Rock and prevent them from being spun away will stop Syclant in its tracks. If Syclant is using Abomasnow's hail for 100% Acc Blizzard then your own weather changer will hinder it.

I decided that instead of saying "immunity" (to SR), because it wasn't actually immune, just wising there were none out I changed it to impunity.

this is the newest one isent it?
 
I was working on the pre-evo sprite, got I got swamped with work from another site. I should finish work on it soon.

Also, that footprint is wrong considering he only has 3 fingers.
 
Accoriding to most of the images, Syclant has 4 legs. And this is a FOOTPRINT. Why would its fingers have to do with it? The circle is its thorax and the four dots are the legs.
 
Oh, well in that case, I think you'd just want to go with one dot then, as a majority of the footprints in D/P only go with one leg's print.
 
This one is a different one. It has the hole in the middle as if the spike from the foot was driven into the ground. I added an extra appendage because it was boing without it.
SyclantFP.png
 
This one is a different one. It has the hole in the middle as if the spike from the foot was driven into the ground. I added an extra appendage because it was boing without it.
SyclantFP.png

have you ever done a sprite? you do iy pixel by pixel. have a look on a pokemon game to see what footprints look like, cos its not quite like that. and did you use paint? if not do for your next atempt. also dont add stuff so its interesting, add stuff cos its there.
 
Syclant on Shoddy Update

I was out of town for a week, then I was sick, and then I spent some time on the new pokemon thread. But, I've spent some time today continuing work on getting Syclant into ShoddyBattle.

I've decided to stop working on any Shoddy client mods. I'm going to focus on server mods only. It's just too much of a pain to mess with the client, and Shoddy really wasn't built for client mods. Server mods are part of the framework design.

I have some good news and some bad news. Bad news first -- without modifying the client, it is impossible to add a new pokemon, in addition to all the others. Here's the good news -- it appears to be very reasonable to replace an existing pokemon with Syclant. I think I can replace a pokemon completely -- name, stats, movesets, everything. With a little plugin help, I think I can even replace the sprites on the client. Thank DragonTamer for influencing the adoption of plugins in the Shoddy client. Without plugins, we'd be in real trouble for seeing KOA's awesome sprites alongside the rest of Syclant's data.

So, here's the big decision: What pokemon do I replace with Syclant? I'm really leaning towards replacing Delibird. The irony of it is just too delicious. If someone has a better suggestion, I'm listening.

BTW, this "replacement" should only affect when you are connected to my special Shoddy server. Otherwise, when you connect to any other Shoddy server, Delibird should be there, ready for all your competitive battling needs. LOL....
 
Bulbasaur, so that every default Pokemon is Syclant. Just so people remember which Pokemon they're playing with.

Also great work with that as always.
 
Bulbasaur, so that every default Pokemon is Syclant. Just so people remember which Pokemon they're playing with.

Also great work with that as always.

I concur, this way people know that its a mod server with custom pokemon. After Syclant, we should just go along the list and remove NFE's(ivysaur, charmander,etc.) but NOT the acceptable ones like scyther.
 
i say remove bulbasaur for syclar then ivysaur for syclant, or the evolution line will not work. keep delibird, or syclant will have nothing to eat.

also do you need its final weight? and for the pre evo you need its weight, sprite, and what else?
 
The Bulbasaur idea sounds great, I'd do that. Venusaur would still be there for use, and you'd see in an instant what is different in that server.
 
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