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[Standard] Fallout 3 Mafia - Game Over! UncleSam and Flamestrike Win!
- Thread starter MK Ultra
- Start date
So are we getting started on a lynch or what?
Lynch Unclesam
Reasoning:
He claimed a fucking uninspectable man who's a neutral in Fallout 3.
He was targeted by a post restrictor and a vigilante and both failed. (He has no idea why it failed and the bg protected a different person.)
If he dies, we have a backup alliance inspector, yes/no asker, sheriff, and probably an inspector left.
He cleaned a man, so if he is indeed village, we have someone who has been cleaned to talk to, and even if you don't trust me, there's someone who's been 100% cleaned.
If you have any questions I can clear them up for you, unless your name is Unclesam in which case I'm honestly tired of pointing obvious things out to you.
I can show you the claims of both the vig and the post restricter if you want, not the names obviously.
Three Dog out.
Reasoning:
He claimed a fucking uninspectable man who's a neutral in Fallout 3.
He was targeted by a post restrictor and a vigilante and both failed. (He has no idea why it failed and the bg protected a different person.)
If he dies, we have a backup alliance inspector, yes/no asker, sheriff, and probably an inspector left.
He cleaned a man, so if he is indeed village, we have someone who has been cleaned to talk to, and even if you don't trust me, there's someone who's been 100% cleaned.
If you have any questions I can clear them up for you, unless your name is Unclesam in which case I'm honestly tired of pointing obvious things out to you.
I can show you the claims of both the vig and the post restricter if you want, not the names obviously.
Three Dog out.
OK guys billymills has decided it is time to lynch an alliance checker who has proven he is not a member of either mafia faction while riding on the coattails of his stunning success with trusting vonfiedler. I will c/p our rather lengthy conversation in its entirety, bolding where I see appropriate...
Now as you can see, on MULTIPLE occasions when given the chance in the moment billy failed to post the flavor of these "failures" or provide any sort or proof they exist. I would also point out that he publicly trusted von, that I have proven I'm not mafia, that I've proven I am an important role, and that even IF billy is village he is an announcer (not much of a loss for a worst case scenario!)
Lynch billymills
Note: It was a long convo so the beginning cut off sadly...
Also note that although he claims to be able to provide these claims now, he could not in the moment and is probably writing them as we speak.
Also he somehow "KNEW" I was going to die last night, which seems odd doesn't it?
All the evidence points to billy in this situation.
<billymills> I hope you understand now
<billymills> why I think you're bad
<UncleSam> indeed
<UncleSam> the thing is
<UncleSam> you blind trusted von
<UncleSam> and ive proven im not mafia
<billymills> what do you mean trusted
<billymills> I didn't give him any info
<billymills> I just didn't want him targeted by someone
<billymills> and I forget who even.
<billymills> I don't give a fuck about a person who claims rogue
<billymills> which is better than some of the other claims i've been given
<billymills> I have a bpv, and a man with no powers at all.
<billymills> rogue seems pretty good in comparison.
<billymills> also a back up alliance checker
<UncleSam> yea so uh you have a <SNIP FOR INFO> who i cleaned to being on the village
<billymills> ~___~
<billymills> yes
<UncleSam> i say supposedly for teh role
<billymills> I asked him to check 3 fishy claims.
<UncleSam> i mean did he get any results
<billymills> I asked him
<billymills> we'll see
<billymills> I also have a sheriff
<billymills> -_-
<billymills> which makes you again
<billymills> more fishy.
<UncleSam> um no it makes the variety of ppl
<UncleSam> who HAVENT proven they arent either mafia faction
<UncleSam> more fishy
<billymills> a sheriff and an alliance checker
<billymills> AND a backup alliance checker.
<UncleSam> yea and has this sheriff found mafia
<billymills> you proved you aren't creature
<billymills> but I have a man claiming there are only 13/25 villagers
<billymills> which means 5 each mafia and 2 neutral
<billymills> at best.
<UncleSam> well i feel ive proven im not enclave either
<UncleSam> given fucking von being on the enclave
<billymills> not proven
<billymills> but close
<UncleSam> as close as
<billymills> i'll give you that.
<UncleSam> so if ive proven im not either mafia
<UncleSam> i feel you should check your other inspect claims
<UncleSam> especially since
<billymills> I won't lynch you as long as I have a better target.
<UncleSam> hey guess what
<UncleSam> i feel the majority of ppl trust me over you at this point
<UncleSam> given the FUCKING BG DIED
<billymills> I knew who the bg was protecting
<UncleSam> nice rand huh?
<billymills> and
<billymills> it wasn't you.
<billymills> and if my calculations are correct
<UncleSam> um ok
<billymills> you should have died.
<UncleSam> oh i should have died?
<billymills> yes.
<UncleSam> how do you figure that?
<UncleSam> did you have your mafia team kill me?
<billymills> -_-
<billymills> please tell me
<billymills> how you dodged both a posting restriction
<billymills> and a kill.
<UncleSam> um you have no proof i dodged a kill nor do i know anything about dodging a kill
<UncleSam> i dont know about a "post restrictor" either
<billymills> the post restricter has been confirmed
<UncleSam> again all these are merely claims substantiated by yourself
<UncleSam> btw care to explain how you KNEw i was going to be killed?
<UncleSam> im interested really
<billymills> lol
<billymills> like I'd tell you
<billymills> you've dodged everything
<UncleSam> because from what ive seen
<UncleSam> 2 kills
<UncleSam> is p standard
<UncleSam> 1/2 or 2/3 each mafia
<UncleSam> 1 wolf
<UncleSam> =2
<UncleSam> on n1
<UncleSam> in most cases
<UncleSam> so uh care to explain how i "dodged" a kill?
<billymills> how about
<UncleSam> oh thats right because you ordered me to be killed!
<billymills> you come clean.
<billymills> no I didn't.
<UncleSam> except apparently no one targeted me for death
<UncleSam> and as for the bg he conveniently cant answer who he targeted last night
<UncleSam> now let me put it this way
<UncleSam> from my and every other person's view
<UncleSam> i have exposed mafia on each side
<UncleSam> you have openly trusted these mafia
<UncleSam> and tried to swing the lynch away from one of them
<billymills> what?
<billymills> are you just fucking retarded
<UncleSam> "von has given me plenty of reasons to believe he is wasteland"
<billymills> I posted those reasons
<UncleSam> thats called openly trusting son
<billymills> in the thread.
<UncleSam> yea
<billymills> also for the record
<UncleSam> so trustworthy you ASSURED me
<billymills> openly defending him
<UncleSam> and told me not to target him
<billymills> got him killed
<billymills> xD
<billymills> hey
<billymills> if you targeted him
<billymills> we wouldn't know <SNIP> was clean
<billymills> so in my books
<UncleSam> true
<billymills> that's a win for me.
<UncleSam> a win for the village
<billymills> yea
<UncleSam> now i would REALLY like to know about this killing business
<billymills> either way
<billymills> um no
<UncleSam> because i was just figuring i got lucky
<billymills> yea sure.
<UncleSam> and the bg protected me or i wasnt targeted
<UncleSam> but you seem legitimately angry i didnt die
<billymills> I am
<UncleSam> which seems to imply that you tried to kill me
<billymills> no
<billymills> I really hoped I'd be done with you
<billymills> what do you say
<billymills> <SNIP FOR CLAIM>
<billymills> is he a worthy lynch?
<UncleSam> well yes i suppose
<UncleSam> wait
<UncleSam> not really
<UncleSam> i mean <SNIP>
<UncleSam> but
<UncleSam> question
<UncleSam> IF there was already another <SNIP FOR CLAIM>
<billymills> what other <SNIP> claim
<billymills> since when did you hear this
<billymills> if there was another I wouldn't have trusted von lol.
<UncleSam> uh
<UncleSam> oh wait
<UncleSam> thats <SNIP>
<UncleSam> srry misread it
<UncleSam> i dunno it seems to me you have "so many inspect claims"
<UncleSam> you shouldve found a mafia by now...
<billymills> but
<billymills> no real inspector.
<UncleSam> and uh you dont suppose the reason for so many other random parts is because there is no real one?
<UncleSam> oh btw
<UncleSam> what was the flavor
<UncleSam> of the post restrictor failing
<UncleSam> can you c/p it for me right here right now
<billymills> no (Note that he can't provide any evidence as the the post restrictor's existence at all)
<UncleSam> oh rly
<billymills> did you read what I said in the thread
<billymills> ?
<UncleSam> so uh how do i know there is a post restrictor
<billymills> did you see shade's post day 1?
<UncleSam> ?
<billymills> I'm really considering lynching you just so I don't have to explain everything.
<UncleSam> oh btw <SNIP>, who was "suspicious" of von and turned out to be right, was also suspicious of shade
<UncleSam> not that thats any evidence against shade
<billymills> good for him
<UncleSam> just saying im a little puzzled if this dude might know more than just hunches
<billymills> I have a claim from <SNIP>
<UncleSam> just like you have a claim from everyone
<billymills> no?
<UncleSam> oh thats right you just try to kill the people who claim important village roles my bad
<billymills> I'm just waiting on 1-2 men
<billymills> I have what I think is a good target
<UncleSam> what <SNIP>
<billymills> no.
<UncleSam> lol then you will try to lynch me
<billymills> although he'd be good.
<billymills> [17:15] <billymills> what do you do
<billymills> [17:20] <UltraPorygon> what do you mean exactly?
<billymills> [17:20] <billymills> what's your power in fallout mafia
<billymills> [17:21] <UltraPorygon> you want a claim?
<billymills> [17:21] <billymills> yes
<billymills> [17:21] <UltraPorygon> did you get cleaned?
<billymills> [17:22] <billymills> yes
<billymills> [17:23] <UltraPorygon> you're announcer?
<billymills> [17:23] <billymills> yes.
<billymills> [17:23] <billymills> stop stalling
<billymills> conversation ends there
<UncleSam> wait thought the claim up above was his
<billymills> then the next day he provides me with <SNIP> claim
<UncleSam> oh
<UncleSam> yea that seems kinda obvious
<UncleSam> wait so uh whyd you say no
<UncleSam> still gonna try and lynch me anyways lol
<billymills> there's another man
<UncleSam> even though im the most cleaned person
<billymills> that would probably be a good lynch
<billymills> you're not the most cleaned person.
<UncleSam> i have essentially proven im not mafia
<billymills> if you're clean, the <SNIP> is clean
<billymills> if you're not clean
<billymills> then <SNIP> could still be clean
<billymills> so <SNIP> is definitely more clean than you
<UncleSam> true i suppose
<UncleSam> so out of curiosity what question did >SNIP> ask
<UncleSam> last night
<billymills> that's what I'm waiting on
<billymills> it wasn't in regards to you though.
<UncleSam> you didnt tell him what to ask?
<billymills> I know what he asked
<billymills> I didn't geta result though.
<UncleSam> well i asked iimkultra specifically about a y/n asker during n0 when me and ipl claimed to each other and he said y/n askers STILL fail against me
<billymills> you're really not helping your case.
<UncleSam> how is that
<billymills> right now it may just be a good idea to lynch you anyway
<billymills> because nothing works on you.
<UncleSam> oh right
<UncleSam> your mafia kills dont work on me
<UncleSam> better lynch me
<billymills> umm
<billymills> yes
<billymills> definitely.
<billymills> if you can't be killed at night
<billymills> there's no fucking way you're village
<UncleSam> you realize you just admitted
<UncleSam> you tried to kill me
<UncleSam> last night
<UncleSam> right
<billymills> ?
<billymills> no
<UncleSam> so then how the fuck did i survive anything?
<billymills> I knew of an attempt on your life
<billymills> no doubt about it
<billymills> I didn't order it
<UncleSam> oh
<billymills> and
<billymills> it's not a mafia.
<UncleSam> so you told a vig
<UncleSam> to kill me
<billymills> I didn't order it (KEEP THIS IN MIND FOR LATER)
<UncleSam> thats not suspicious at all
<billymills> do I have to spell fucking everything out to you.
<billymills> it's far less suspicious than you not dying.
<UncleSam> um...no?
<UncleSam> i dont know how i lived last night except that it seemed there were plenty of kills and
<UncleSam> we dont know for sure who the bg targeted
<billymills> yes I do?
<UncleSam> in case you didnt notice i argued and argued for the bg to protect me in the thread
<UncleSam> specifically so ppl wouldnt kill me
<UncleSam> so now you know someone who FOR SURE tried to kill me?
<billymills> no
<billymills> she could always be lying (So he admits the kill mightv'e been a mistake...)
<UncleSam> then how the fuck did i survive anything
<UncleSam> oh right you cant answer that because you dont wanna admit you are mafia
<billymills> i'm fucking 3 dog
<billymills> you really think i'm mafia.
<UncleSam> jackie chans have happened
<UncleSam> js
<UncleSam> not saying its likely
<UncleSam> and its the reason i have trusted you thus far
<billymills> you're really testing my limits. (Yes this is why he is lynching me)
<UncleSam> ...ok?
<UncleSam> now in case you didnt notice
<UncleSam> someone probably safeguarded me again figuring it would make me look suspicious
<billymills> that works
<UncleSam> which it certainly fucking has in your eyes
<UncleSam> except we cant verify the existence of a posting restrictor whatsoever
<UncleSam> but moving on
<UncleSam> you dont even take this into account
<UncleSam> why?
<UncleSam> because you KNOW someone tried to kill me last night!
<UncleSam> btw this big
<UncleSam> vig*
<UncleSam> is it an every night claim?
<billymills> huh?
<UncleSam> because every night vigs are rare
<billymills> oh
<billymills> hmm
<UncleSam> well you claimed that some nonmafia killer targeted me
<UncleSam> which i presume is a vig
<billymills> actually
<billymills> The wolf talked to me night 0
<billymills> when I claimed to want the village to burn
<billymills> he claimed 2 kills every night
<UncleSam> ...
<billymills> so i'm like
<billymills> hey get unclesam
<billymills> and then he's like
<billymills> sure
<UncleSam> ok stop fucking around
<billymills> can you give me the bg too?
<billymills> so I did
<billymills> so he killed the bg and attempted to kill you
<billymills> but it failed
<billymills> and i'm like
<billymills> hey wtf
<billymills> but he hasn't responded
<billymills> so yea
<UncleSam> ...
<UncleSam> can we get back to the problem at hand please
<UncleSam> you claim there is a vig claim who tried to kill me with your knowledge
<UncleSam> last night
<UncleSam> correct?
<UncleSam> and you dont find an unrestricted vig claim at least a LITTLE bit suspicious?
<UncleSam> btw care to c/p the role pm of this person RIGHT NOW without their name?
<UncleSam> so that i can verify you are telling the truth?
<UncleSam> because you couldnt c/p the posting restrictor pm either...
<UncleSam> oi billymills
* [billymills] (~billy@the.eternal.scholar): billy mills
* [billymills] is a registered nick
* [billymills] #freemobile +#Fallout3 &#warau +#fluodome
* [billymills] blizzard.nl.eu.synirc.net :Thou shalt not ping before any graven server
* [billymills] idle 00:01:52, signon: Fri Dec 17 23:32:57
* [billymills] End of WHOIS list.
<UncleSam> ok yea w/e try to lynch me go ahead
<UncleSam> you cant answer my simply questions
<UncleSam> so good luck with that (NOTE THIS BIT IN PARTICULAR)
<billymills> why I think you're bad
<UncleSam> indeed
<UncleSam> the thing is
<UncleSam> you blind trusted von
<UncleSam> and ive proven im not mafia
<billymills> what do you mean trusted
<billymills> I didn't give him any info
<billymills> I just didn't want him targeted by someone
<billymills> and I forget who even.
<billymills> I don't give a fuck about a person who claims rogue
<billymills> which is better than some of the other claims i've been given
<billymills> I have a bpv, and a man with no powers at all.
<billymills> rogue seems pretty good in comparison.
<billymills> also a back up alliance checker
<UncleSam> yea so uh you have a <SNIP FOR INFO> who i cleaned to being on the village
<billymills> ~___~
<billymills> yes
<UncleSam> i say supposedly for teh role
<billymills> I asked him to check 3 fishy claims.
<UncleSam> i mean did he get any results
<billymills> I asked him
<billymills> we'll see
<billymills> I also have a sheriff
<billymills> -_-
<billymills> which makes you again
<billymills> more fishy.
<UncleSam> um no it makes the variety of ppl
<UncleSam> who HAVENT proven they arent either mafia faction
<UncleSam> more fishy
<billymills> a sheriff and an alliance checker
<billymills> AND a backup alliance checker.
<UncleSam> yea and has this sheriff found mafia
<billymills> you proved you aren't creature
<billymills> but I have a man claiming there are only 13/25 villagers
<billymills> which means 5 each mafia and 2 neutral
<billymills> at best.
<UncleSam> well i feel ive proven im not enclave either
<UncleSam> given fucking von being on the enclave
<billymills> not proven
<billymills> but close
<UncleSam> as close as
<billymills> i'll give you that.
<UncleSam> so if ive proven im not either mafia
<UncleSam> i feel you should check your other inspect claims
<UncleSam> especially since
<billymills> I won't lynch you as long as I have a better target.
<UncleSam> hey guess what
<UncleSam> i feel the majority of ppl trust me over you at this point
<UncleSam> given the FUCKING BG DIED
<billymills> I knew who the bg was protecting
<UncleSam> nice rand huh?
<billymills> and
<billymills> it wasn't you.
<billymills> and if my calculations are correct
<UncleSam> um ok
<billymills> you should have died.
<UncleSam> oh i should have died?
<billymills> yes.
<UncleSam> how do you figure that?
<UncleSam> did you have your mafia team kill me?
<billymills> -_-
<billymills> please tell me
<billymills> how you dodged both a posting restriction
<billymills> and a kill.
<UncleSam> um you have no proof i dodged a kill nor do i know anything about dodging a kill
<UncleSam> i dont know about a "post restrictor" either
<billymills> the post restricter has been confirmed
<UncleSam> again all these are merely claims substantiated by yourself
<UncleSam> btw care to explain how you KNEw i was going to be killed?
<UncleSam> im interested really
<billymills> lol
<billymills> like I'd tell you
<billymills> you've dodged everything
<UncleSam> because from what ive seen
<UncleSam> 2 kills
<UncleSam> is p standard
<UncleSam> 1/2 or 2/3 each mafia
<UncleSam> 1 wolf
<UncleSam> =2
<UncleSam> on n1
<UncleSam> in most cases
<UncleSam> so uh care to explain how i "dodged" a kill?
<billymills> how about
<UncleSam> oh thats right because you ordered me to be killed!
<billymills> you come clean.
<billymills> no I didn't.
<UncleSam> except apparently no one targeted me for death
<UncleSam> and as for the bg he conveniently cant answer who he targeted last night
<UncleSam> now let me put it this way
<UncleSam> from my and every other person's view
<UncleSam> i have exposed mafia on each side
<UncleSam> you have openly trusted these mafia
<UncleSam> and tried to swing the lynch away from one of them
<billymills> what?
<billymills> are you just fucking retarded
<UncleSam> "von has given me plenty of reasons to believe he is wasteland"
<billymills> I posted those reasons
<UncleSam> thats called openly trusting son
<billymills> in the thread.
<UncleSam> yea
<billymills> also for the record
<UncleSam> so trustworthy you ASSURED me
<billymills> openly defending him
<UncleSam> and told me not to target him
<billymills> got him killed
<billymills> xD
<billymills> hey
<billymills> if you targeted him
<billymills> we wouldn't know <SNIP> was clean
<billymills> so in my books
<UncleSam> true
<billymills> that's a win for me.
<UncleSam> a win for the village
<billymills> yea
<UncleSam> now i would REALLY like to know about this killing business
<billymills> either way
<billymills> um no
<UncleSam> because i was just figuring i got lucky
<billymills> yea sure.
<UncleSam> and the bg protected me or i wasnt targeted
<UncleSam> but you seem legitimately angry i didnt die
<billymills> I am
<UncleSam> which seems to imply that you tried to kill me
<billymills> no
<billymills> I really hoped I'd be done with you
<billymills> what do you say
<billymills> <SNIP FOR CLAIM>
<billymills> is he a worthy lynch?
<UncleSam> well yes i suppose
<UncleSam> wait
<UncleSam> not really
<UncleSam> i mean <SNIP>
<UncleSam> but
<UncleSam> question
<UncleSam> IF there was already another <SNIP FOR CLAIM>
<billymills> what other <SNIP> claim
<billymills> since when did you hear this
<billymills> if there was another I wouldn't have trusted von lol.
<UncleSam> uh
<UncleSam> oh wait
<UncleSam> thats <SNIP>
<UncleSam> srry misread it
<UncleSam> i dunno it seems to me you have "so many inspect claims"
<UncleSam> you shouldve found a mafia by now...
<billymills> but
<billymills> no real inspector.
<UncleSam> and uh you dont suppose the reason for so many other random parts is because there is no real one?
<UncleSam> oh btw
<UncleSam> what was the flavor
<UncleSam> of the post restrictor failing
<UncleSam> can you c/p it for me right here right now
<billymills> no (Note that he can't provide any evidence as the the post restrictor's existence at all)
<UncleSam> oh rly
<billymills> did you read what I said in the thread
<billymills> ?
<UncleSam> so uh how do i know there is a post restrictor
<billymills> did you see shade's post day 1?
<UncleSam> ?
<billymills> I'm really considering lynching you just so I don't have to explain everything.
<UncleSam> oh btw <SNIP>, who was "suspicious" of von and turned out to be right, was also suspicious of shade
<UncleSam> not that thats any evidence against shade
<billymills> good for him
<UncleSam> just saying im a little puzzled if this dude might know more than just hunches
<billymills> I have a claim from <SNIP>
<UncleSam> just like you have a claim from everyone
<billymills> no?
<UncleSam> oh thats right you just try to kill the people who claim important village roles my bad
<billymills> I'm just waiting on 1-2 men
<billymills> I have what I think is a good target
<UncleSam> what <SNIP>
<billymills> no.
<UncleSam> lol then you will try to lynch me
<billymills> although he'd be good.
<billymills> [17:15] <billymills> what do you do
<billymills> [17:20] <UltraPorygon> what do you mean exactly?
<billymills> [17:20] <billymills> what's your power in fallout mafia
<billymills> [17:21] <UltraPorygon> you want a claim?
<billymills> [17:21] <billymills> yes
<billymills> [17:21] <UltraPorygon> did you get cleaned?
<billymills> [17:22] <billymills> yes
<billymills> [17:23] <UltraPorygon> you're announcer?
<billymills> [17:23] <billymills> yes.
<billymills> [17:23] <billymills> stop stalling
<billymills> conversation ends there
<UncleSam> wait thought the claim up above was his
<billymills> then the next day he provides me with <SNIP> claim
<UncleSam> oh
<UncleSam> yea that seems kinda obvious
<UncleSam> wait so uh whyd you say no
<UncleSam> still gonna try and lynch me anyways lol
<billymills> there's another man
<UncleSam> even though im the most cleaned person
<billymills> that would probably be a good lynch
<billymills> you're not the most cleaned person.
<UncleSam> i have essentially proven im not mafia
<billymills> if you're clean, the <SNIP> is clean
<billymills> if you're not clean
<billymills> then <SNIP> could still be clean
<billymills> so <SNIP> is definitely more clean than you
<UncleSam> true i suppose
<UncleSam> so out of curiosity what question did >SNIP> ask
<UncleSam> last night
<billymills> that's what I'm waiting on
<billymills> it wasn't in regards to you though.
<UncleSam> you didnt tell him what to ask?
<billymills> I know what he asked
<billymills> I didn't geta result though.
<UncleSam> well i asked iimkultra specifically about a y/n asker during n0 when me and ipl claimed to each other and he said y/n askers STILL fail against me
<billymills> you're really not helping your case.
<UncleSam> how is that
<billymills> right now it may just be a good idea to lynch you anyway
<billymills> because nothing works on you.
<UncleSam> oh right
<UncleSam> your mafia kills dont work on me
<UncleSam> better lynch me
<billymills> umm
<billymills> yes
<billymills> definitely.
<billymills> if you can't be killed at night
<billymills> there's no fucking way you're village
<UncleSam> you realize you just admitted
<UncleSam> you tried to kill me
<UncleSam> last night
<UncleSam> right
<billymills> ?
<billymills> no
<UncleSam> so then how the fuck did i survive anything?
<billymills> I knew of an attempt on your life
<billymills> no doubt about it
<billymills> I didn't order it
<UncleSam> oh
<billymills> and
<billymills> it's not a mafia.
<UncleSam> so you told a vig
<UncleSam> to kill me
<billymills> I didn't order it (KEEP THIS IN MIND FOR LATER)
<UncleSam> thats not suspicious at all
<billymills> do I have to spell fucking everything out to you.
<billymills> it's far less suspicious than you not dying.
<UncleSam> um...no?
<UncleSam> i dont know how i lived last night except that it seemed there were plenty of kills and
<UncleSam> we dont know for sure who the bg targeted
<billymills> yes I do?
<UncleSam> in case you didnt notice i argued and argued for the bg to protect me in the thread
<UncleSam> specifically so ppl wouldnt kill me
<UncleSam> so now you know someone who FOR SURE tried to kill me?
<billymills> no
<billymills> she could always be lying (So he admits the kill mightv'e been a mistake...)
<UncleSam> then how the fuck did i survive anything
<UncleSam> oh right you cant answer that because you dont wanna admit you are mafia
<billymills> i'm fucking 3 dog
<billymills> you really think i'm mafia.
<UncleSam> jackie chans have happened
<UncleSam> js
<UncleSam> not saying its likely
<UncleSam> and its the reason i have trusted you thus far
<billymills> you're really testing my limits. (Yes this is why he is lynching me)
<UncleSam> ...ok?
<UncleSam> now in case you didnt notice
<UncleSam> someone probably safeguarded me again figuring it would make me look suspicious
<billymills> that works
<UncleSam> which it certainly fucking has in your eyes
<UncleSam> except we cant verify the existence of a posting restrictor whatsoever
<UncleSam> but moving on
<UncleSam> you dont even take this into account
<UncleSam> why?
<UncleSam> because you KNOW someone tried to kill me last night!
<UncleSam> btw this big
<UncleSam> vig*
<UncleSam> is it an every night claim?
<billymills> huh?
<UncleSam> because every night vigs are rare
<billymills> oh
<billymills> hmm
<UncleSam> well you claimed that some nonmafia killer targeted me
<UncleSam> which i presume is a vig
<billymills> actually
<billymills> The wolf talked to me night 0
<billymills> when I claimed to want the village to burn
<billymills> he claimed 2 kills every night
<UncleSam> ...
<billymills> so i'm like
<billymills> hey get unclesam
<billymills> and then he's like
<billymills> sure
<UncleSam> ok stop fucking around
<billymills> can you give me the bg too?
<billymills> so I did
<billymills> so he killed the bg and attempted to kill you
<billymills> but it failed
<billymills> and i'm like
<billymills> hey wtf
<billymills> but he hasn't responded
<billymills> so yea
<UncleSam> ...
<UncleSam> can we get back to the problem at hand please
<UncleSam> you claim there is a vig claim who tried to kill me with your knowledge
<UncleSam> last night
<UncleSam> correct?
<UncleSam> and you dont find an unrestricted vig claim at least a LITTLE bit suspicious?
<UncleSam> btw care to c/p the role pm of this person RIGHT NOW without their name?
<UncleSam> so that i can verify you are telling the truth?
<UncleSam> because you couldnt c/p the posting restrictor pm either...
<UncleSam> oi billymills
* [billymills] (~billy@the.eternal.scholar): billy mills
* [billymills] is a registered nick
* [billymills] #freemobile +#Fallout3 &#warau +#fluodome
* [billymills] blizzard.nl.eu.synirc.net :Thou shalt not ping before any graven server
* [billymills] idle 00:01:52, signon: Fri Dec 17 23:32:57
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<UncleSam> ok yea w/e try to lynch me go ahead
<UncleSam> you cant answer my simply questions
<UncleSam> so good luck with that (NOTE THIS BIT IN PARTICULAR)
Now as you can see, on MULTIPLE occasions when given the chance in the moment billy failed to post the flavor of these "failures" or provide any sort or proof they exist. I would also point out that he publicly trusted von, that I have proven I'm not mafia, that I've proven I am an important role, and that even IF billy is village he is an announcer (not much of a loss for a worst case scenario!)
Lynch billymills
Note: It was a long convo so the beginning cut off sadly...
Also note that although he claims to be able to provide these claims now, he could not in the moment and is probably writing them as we speak.
Also he somehow "KNEW" I was going to die last night, which seems odd doesn't it?
All the evidence points to billy in this situation.
Again, if anyone who's not a completely idiotic asshole wants proof, don't hesitate to contact me!
Great argument.
Hey guys if there is anyone who sees that billymills is pulling these claims out of his ass vote him off.
Also don't vote off the alliance checker who has proven he isn't mafia eh?
Maybe vote off the guy who arranged for him to be killed, or so he admits (and managed to fail at it too, though I'm not sure how if the BG didn't protect me. Then again, we don't know WHO the BG protected do we?).
By the way billy, you admitted there were more suspicious claims out there yet decided to lynch me. Odd, huh?
Edit: Note that I'm the one providing logs and evidence here while billy is spouting things and hoping something sticks.
Just remember back to yesterday/von when the same thing happened guys.
Hey guys if there is anyone who sees that billymills is pulling these claims out of his ass vote him off.
Also don't vote off the alliance checker who has proven he isn't mafia eh?
Maybe vote off the guy who arranged for him to be killed, or so he admits (and managed to fail at it too, though I'm not sure how if the BG didn't protect me. Then again, we don't know WHO the BG protected do we?).
By the way billy, you admitted there were more suspicious claims out there yet decided to lynch me. Odd, huh?
Edit: Note that I'm the one providing logs and evidence here while billy is spouting things and hoping something sticks.
Just remember back to yesterday/von when the same thing happened guys.
Lynch billymills
I'm simply tired of arguing with idiots.
I have the logs, I have the PMs, I have the timestamps.
I'm just not interested in handing them to mafia.
I have the logs, I have the PMs, I have the timestamps.
I'm just not interested in handing them to mafia.
And yet you give them to ANYONE who PMs you...
Dude give it up no one is fooled by this either you tried to kill me and the BG mercifully protected me or you are just making up reasons to lynch off an alliance checker who has proven he isn't mafia (BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION).
By the way, nice to see you have so many inspect claims yet no full inspector (according to yourself) AND you don't bother trying to clean the other inspectors.
You just assume I am bad.
None of these are actions of a villager. Jackie Chans have happened before. Village leaders who order the deaths of their inspectors haven't.
Dude give it up no one is fooled by this either you tried to kill me and the BG mercifully protected me or you are just making up reasons to lynch off an alliance checker who has proven he isn't mafia (BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION).
By the way, nice to see you have so many inspect claims yet no full inspector (according to yourself) AND you don't bother trying to clean the other inspectors.
You just assume I am bad.
None of these are actions of a villager. Jackie Chans have happened before. Village leaders who order the deaths of their inspectors haven't.
So billy's not going to say who he gave the logs too? Please do tell.
EDIT: Ninja'd
EDIT: Ninja'd
Nah he will provide flawless ones once he has finished doctoring them in a few minutes smashlloyd.
The fact he couldn't provide them when it mattered is what condemns him.
Also I presume his mafia teammates will back him up on this just like yesterday when he tried to counterlynch me despite KNOWING makiri was mafia for what he described as "political reasons" (AKA to get everyone to claim to him not to me).
Seriously guys at the least look at risk/reward. Billy is a useless announcer who, if villager, can give the sheet to someone else "cleaned" (he said so himself there was someone clean). On the other hand, you could lynch the alliance checker. Pretty clear who to lynch first here.
Edit: Going to bed soon. Any questions just PM me or post them HERE and I will answer where EVERYONE can judge my truthfulness, unlike billy.
The fact he couldn't provide them when it mattered is what condemns him.
Also I presume his mafia teammates will back him up on this just like yesterday when he tried to counterlynch me despite KNOWING makiri was mafia for what he described as "political reasons" (AKA to get everyone to claim to him not to me).
Seriously guys at the least look at risk/reward. Billy is a useless announcer who, if villager, can give the sheet to someone else "cleaned" (he said so himself there was someone clean). On the other hand, you could lynch the alliance checker. Pretty clear who to lynch first here.
Edit: Going to bed soon. Any questions just PM me or post them HERE and I will answer where EVERYONE can judge my truthfulness, unlike billy.
Flawless doctored-oxymoron. Looove that word.
Seriously guys, lynch billy. I hate announcers anyway-so pointless.
Seriously guys, lynch billy. I hate announcers anyway-so pointless.
If Unclesam is clean, then you have a 100% confirmed village role to which we can all claim to (not me, the man he inspected). There is seriously no loss to lynching him.
Lynching me on the other hand grants you nothing. Unclesam is just as suspicious as before, but now he's even more righteous. You can't trust a single thing he says, and he's immune to fucking everything.
Um billy not for anything but if I get lynched I would have to say BEFORE I get lynched who is clean.
According to you you could do the same so that, when "proven clean", we could all claim to the same person.
And yea, no loss in lynching the alliance checker who lynched a mafia already. None at all.
So basically lynching you is: worst case lose announcer, gain CLEAN person (you could tell us who is this "confirmed" person before dying the same as I could say who I inspected before dying; this point is equally valid for both of us.)
Lynching me: We lose an alliance checker who is proven not to be mafia. We gain a clean person.
BEST Case: Either of us is mafia, the other still isn't really trusted.
By the way, anyone else notice that lynching billy seems to have more benefits than downsides? He is an ANNOUNCER for god's sake, and can clean someone if he is actually village. That seems like a good trade to me.
Except he is mafia and so we actually gain a dead mafia who is both cunning and has all your lot's claims.
Don't forget the BG died last night. Lucky rand for the mafia, eh?
Also you have STILL not given ANY proof that I dodged a single thing OR that the BG didn't protect me last night.
EDIT: Also I told ipl I couldn't be checked for Y/N asker before N0 was out, if he was still playing he could confirm this. Permission from hosts for, if he feels like it, confirming I did in fact tell him this?
I forgot to mention it to you, billy, because I had hardly seen you until tonight ANYWAY.
According to you you could do the same so that, when "proven clean", we could all claim to the same person.
And yea, no loss in lynching the alliance checker who lynched a mafia already. None at all.
So basically lynching you is: worst case lose announcer, gain CLEAN person (you could tell us who is this "confirmed" person before dying the same as I could say who I inspected before dying; this point is equally valid for both of us.)
Lynching me: We lose an alliance checker who is proven not to be mafia. We gain a clean person.
BEST Case: Either of us is mafia, the other still isn't really trusted.
By the way, anyone else notice that lynching billy seems to have more benefits than downsides? He is an ANNOUNCER for god's sake, and can clean someone if he is actually village. That seems like a good trade to me.
Except he is mafia and so we actually gain a dead mafia who is both cunning and has all your lot's claims.
Don't forget the BG died last night. Lucky rand for the mafia, eh?
Also you have STILL not given ANY proof that I dodged a single thing OR that the BG didn't protect me last night.
EDIT: Also I told ipl I couldn't be checked for Y/N asker before N0 was out, if he was still playing he could confirm this. Permission from hosts for, if he feels like it, confirming I did in fact tell him this?
I forgot to mention it to you, billy, because I had hardly seen you until tonight ANYWAY.
So you want me to tell you the powerful village role that the bg protected last night.
You also want me to tell you precisely who the vigilante is.
You're ignoring any of my arguments.
You're making sensationalist arguments that have no basis whatsoever, in hopes that idiots like smashlloyd will believe you.
You also want me to tell you precisely who the vigilante is.
You're ignoring any of my arguments.
You're making sensationalist arguments that have no basis whatsoever, in hopes that idiots like smashlloyd will believe you.
Actually, I've got a reason for trusting UncleSam. Partially, anyway.
Vote removed.
I want you to c/p the PM WITHOUT THE NAMES (JUST like you offered to do before...)
So yea stop contradicting yourself.
Also how can we trust what you say at all as to who the BG protected? THAT'S MY POINT: He died VERY conveniently, someone must've known who he was AND, maybe, knew that he was protecting someone they wanted to claim wasn't protected the next day?
You keep avoiding obvious shit billymills and no one buys it. You STILL haven't provided any evidence while I have a massive log of your own words contradicting yourself and making up bullshit!
Edit @above: Even billy admitted that ultraporygon was suspicious and probably mafia, I mean just look at the part of the log where billy wants to lynch him instead lol. Thanks for voting with no reasoning whatsoever and proving you are mafia (probably creature I'm guessing because billymills wanted him lynched and it seems obvious billy is enclave at this point).
And billymills, sensationalist implies without proof. I have provided my proof. You have been withholding yours for JUST enough time to doctor it at this point.
FURTHER EDIT: Hey smashlloyd why not provide this evidence I would love to know what it is and I'm sure everyone else would too.
So yea stop contradicting yourself.
Also how can we trust what you say at all as to who the BG protected? THAT'S MY POINT: He died VERY conveniently, someone must've known who he was AND, maybe, knew that he was protecting someone they wanted to claim wasn't protected the next day?
You keep avoiding obvious shit billymills and no one buys it. You STILL haven't provided any evidence while I have a massive log of your own words contradicting yourself and making up bullshit!
Edit @above: Even billy admitted that ultraporygon was suspicious and probably mafia, I mean just look at the part of the log where billy wants to lynch him instead lol. Thanks for voting with no reasoning whatsoever and proving you are mafia (probably creature I'm guessing because billymills wanted him lynched and it seems obvious billy is enclave at this point).
And billymills, sensationalist implies without proof. I have provided my proof. You have been withholding yours for JUST enough time to doctor it at this point.
FURTHER EDIT: Hey smashlloyd why not provide this evidence I would love to know what it is and I'm sure everyone else would too.
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