I doubt the shifts will really be that pronounced - Abra and Cubone may go up a tier, but the rest is just Battle Spot stuff. And Abra was doing pretty well already.
Nah, it would be sufficient to put a text (disclaimer/warning?) in the OP that all tiers are relevant as of update 1.1. If people are savvy enough to find this thread and use for reference, they should have no problems updating their Pokémon games.Given the advent of 1.1, I actually would suggest that the Pokemon that get affected by it should have both a 1.0 rank and a 1.1 rank. I know that sounds a bit silly, but given the fact that a lot of people probably intend to use this thread as a resource, I think that doing so would be the most useful for newcomers while also serving as a reminder for Abra users to update their game. Plus, it's not like it's impossible for people to play through the main story without updating, as the update is only required to go online.
What is the point of this, exactlyGiven the advent of 1.1, I actually would suggest that the Pokemon that get affected by it should have both a 1.0 rank and a 1.1 rank. I know that sounds a bit silly, but given the fact that a lot of people probably intend to use this thread as a resource, I think that doing so would be the most useful for newcomers while also serving as a reminder for Abra users to update their game. Plus, it's not like it's impossible for people to play through the main story without updating, as the update is only required to go online.
Pichu is practically dead weight outside of Charm I guess. It's a pain to evolve (Refresh does affection, not friendship) and even with Soothe Bell it's not efficient. You also have to get a 5% chance of catching it. Not only did they make this Pokemon rare, but a pain to evolve too.Alolan Raichu to A.
Pichu is a complete asshole when it comes to evolving, but do it as fast as possible. Pikachu gets Electro Ball at Lv 13, which sweeps A LOT in Alola. Everyting is slow. Psychic is a great STAB move that can come in handy against Hala in the E4. Thunderbolt is hard to get. You need a Lv 43 Pikachu, OR you relearn it, OR you get the TM... which is post-game. Relearning is the best option. In Seafolk Village, you can show someone your Raichu and you get the Aloraichium Z. This move... whoops ass. 180 BP. If they tank it, they'll get paralyzed. ALL. THE. TIME. Great Z-move if you don't wanna use Specs. The last move is personal preference. Nuzzle if you don't have the Z-crystal, Fake Out for support, Volt Switch for momentum, or Grass Knot (or wait for a Surf event or something) for coverage against Ground. Raichu is great, Pikachu is as strong as your starter, but the HUGE drawback... you gotta evolve the Pichu. Well, there's Refresh and a Soothe Bell on Route 3...
I'm just not seeing how Grimer could "beat nigh anything one on one". Lilligant was the only thing on my team that was more of a let-down.gotta disagree, grimer has a higher attack stat than talonflame along with an excellent movepool. it's also the perfect pokemon to give the eviolite to, letting it soak up a ton of punishment and leech away at opponents with poison. when i used it it seemed to be able to beat nigh anything one on one
I used Grimer; it Evolved into Muk during Route 16 / Po Town. It was useful throughout the game.I'm just not seeing how Grimer could "beat nigh anything one on one". Lilligant was the only thing on my team that was more of a let-down.
Also, it doesn't help that its best Poison STAB is Poison Fang until you can get Poison Jab on... Route 17. Right before Po Town. And that's exactly the problem I had with it - Grimer's damage output was so underwhelming that I had to bench it unless I was facing a Psychic-type or Ghost-type, and the only reason I relied on the Poison Fang badly poison chance for Mallow's Trial was because I didn't have any other option for beating Totem Lurantis, and, at least in my view, when you have to beat something by relying on a non-guaranteed badly poison chance and then proceed to stall, there's a problem. To be frank, I'd be hating on this thing harder if Muk weren't as great as it is.
Also, you're actually wrong about the Talonflame comparison - Talonflame has a higher attack stat than Grimer (81 > 80) but this is mostly splitting hairs at this point as both attack stats are mediocre at best.
I believe Grimer to be one of the best Lurantis counters. As you said, speed control, poison, and maybe hyper poison can really cripple that monster. I've never had too many problems with the bulk, Black Sludge is there before you get Eviolite, and having only one, not too widespread in-game weakness really helps. I actually forgot to give it Rock Tomb, but it was good anyway.I used Grimer; it Evolved into Muk during Route 16 / Po Town. It was useful throughout the game.
80 base attack is still ok. It's only bad endgame but it'll be Muk by then. You get Crunch at level 32 which is around the time Bite / Poison Fang become insufficient. Team Skull also had many Zubats/Golbats which are great for Rock Tomb (which you thankfully get early) - even if you haven't evolved by the time you reach Po Town, you should be able to evolve it here before taking on Aether Foundation (which thankfully has many Psychics). Rock / Poison / Dark coverage is respectable. This in addition to its bulk (amazing early game, and Eviolite does patch it up to become respectable until it evolves) and one weakness. I found it to be a safe lead against most trainers. Worse to worse like against a Ground-type, switch out.
To be fair, Lurantis is quite a difficult Totem fight. If you're relying on a Poison Fang badly poison, that means your team as a whole is insufficient to handle Lurantis - you should not be relying on one Pokemon solely to beat it. Grimer has Poison Gas and Rock Tomb for speed control which can be useful for weakening it for another Pokemon to finish off.
It's weakest phase is shortly before Eviolite when its bulk is falling behind, but that doesn't last long, and it was never at the babying stage throughout the game.