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Swine flu hitting everywhere

Intresting update - WHO has raised pandemic level to 5, one short of a full on pandemic. But, as Douglas Adams so rightly said, DON'T PANIC!!(so important I even used 2 exclamation points o.O) This does not mean that it isn't safe to go out of your houses. Act as if life is going on as normal. having an infection in your state does not mean that going out or going anywhere will get you swine flu. Panic is a greater enemy than the flu at the moment.
 
Except that West Nile really was an issue that eventually subsided.

Yeah and it really was nothing to panic about, it's so retardedly unvirulent and uncommon in virulent form for people that it was silly to flip out.

Come on people, just sit and wait. This is exactly what we get for overpopulating and being so densely populated. We totally had it coming.
 
Come on people, just sit and wait. This is exactly what we get for overpopulating and being so densely populated. We totally had it coming.

So because there are more people alive...people getting sick is "us having it coming"? I don't get your logic. Are you saying that since we have a lot of people, we deserve to suffer "pandemics"?

Anyway, I'm not worried; this virus is not very deadly, despite how virulent it is. People die from the flu every year, sad to say. This is an anomaly, but the vast majority of people who contract this flu will be fine.
 
I don't think people deserve it in the sense that you're kind of imposing upon my quote there, but our lifestyle is very condusive for rapid spreading of hypervirulent flu and other disease. More people mean more density given how things work today and that is exactly how devastating pandemics are even possible.

So in a sense, we really did have it coming (not to mention the observable fact that there is one major flu approximately once per generation).
 
Well, according to my Biology professor... Swine Flu is just the beginning. Apparently, Swine Flu leads to Bird Flu and Bird Flu is easily passed to Humans. At least that is what he says. I mean at least this is time season for bird migration. Am I right?
 
im from mexico, and we cant go to school or any public place till the 6th of march.... and yeah theres been several cases of dead, specally in D.F.
Districto federal? and I'm pretty sure you mean may not march.

Oh and why didn't they restrict travel to/from Mexico from the beginning?
 
all of you are overreacting

you remind me of the people spazzing out in the 2004 florida hurricane season when the media said the the storm was nearly the size of the state

I think you are overreacting to peoples reactions.

maybe... but... the media 'overreacts' with this type of coverage (ex: y2k + conficker); probably not the best example but you get what i mean

Have a nice day.

do you bind this to ctrl+v or do you type it out every time? it's a question that's been bugging me for the last few years
 
I think you are overreacting to peoples reactions.

[edit] - I type it every time, it means more that way.

Have a nice day.
 
all of you are overreacting

you remind me of the people spazzing out in the 2004 florida hurricane season when the media said the the storm was nearly the size of the state

well everybody around the world is fearing this as it's spreading so quickly around the world. They did raise the pademic level from 4 to 5, almost every state in the us has been infected or possibly infected and around the world theirs many confirm and possible cases. the government itself is putting fear in the people, Obama says not to panic but then mentions the possibilities of closing schools nationwide highly possible and that many will die,heck in Egypt they sent for the extinguishing of all pigs in the nation even tough the virus isn't spread by eating pork meat. It's not us that's making it all that serious is the statistics that have been shown so far
 
It may be spreading quickly, but that is just a consequence of living in a densely populated world connected by fast transportation.

Besides, unless you are really, really old, or really, really young (or have cancer or w/e), you have nothing to worry about.
 
This flu allegedly targets those between the ages of 20 and 45 actually.

Also, overpopulation is a myth; we are nowhere near the world's threshold for being able to support us. Pockets of dense populations do contribute to the spread of disease, but it is not an inevitable way of living nor is it a sign of the world getting 'too crowded resulting in nature trying to cull our numbers'.
 
Well, according to my Biology professor... Swine Flu is just the beginning. Apparently, Swine Flu leads to Bird Flu and Bird Flu is easily passed to Humans. At least that is what he says. I mean at least this is time season for bird migration. Am I right?


the last two MAJOR influenza outbreaks were avian.

Avian doesn't 'transfer' into swine types, they are completely different things for the most part. Bird migration means very little in all this I'd imagine.

This flu allegedly targets those between the ages of 20 and 45 actually.

so did spanish flu, the deadliest ones always do!

Overpopulation isn't as big a deal as overcrowding. People living in such close quarters in such large numbers over such small areas really is pandemic encouraging.
 
The Fort Worth Independent School District will temporarily close all schools until further notice, effective Thursday, April 30, 2009. Schools will likely not reopen any sooner than Monday, May 11.
This follows the official confirmation of one case of swine flu at one campus -- previously reported as a probable case --and the announcement that there are three other probable cases at three other schools.


This is terrible, that is a fucking major school district freaking out, so this may be indicative of more schools freaking out.
 
This is terrible, that is a fucking major school district freaking out, so this may be indicative of more schools freaking out.

Agreed, but proactiveness is the only way to combat a flu. It's bad to freak out and start going insane about things, but being catious of a pandemic is never bad. Getting the students out of one area of congregation that is confirmed to have a case of hypervirulent flu is probably a good idea for now; the thing did kill like 150 people+ worldwide within just a week of discovery and outbreak...

Still, I remain stalwart in my opinion that I will freak out when the time comes, and that time is not now. I am a little more cautious, though my curiousity of the growth of this flu is quite overpowering the caution in me.
 
So because there are more people alive...people getting sick is "us having it coming"? I don't get your logic. Are you saying that since we have a lot of people, we deserve to suffer "pandemics"?

Pretty much.

It's natures way of saying there's too many people on this planet.
 
I don't think people deserve it in the sense that you're kind of imposing upon my quote there, but our lifestyle is very condusive for rapid spreading of hypervirulent flu and other disease. More people mean more density given how things work today and that is exactly how devastating pandemics are even possible.

So in a sense, we really did have it coming (not to mention the observable fact that there is one major flu approximately once per generation).

Seems like its one major flu once per year nowadays. Still, I agree that it is getting blown way out of proportion.
 
Edmonton's school district sucks ass.

They made all students come home if they were away from the province, cause of the swine flu. Our band was in California for 5 days. We left after the first.
FML
 
Agreed, but proactiveness is the only way to combat a flu.

What about antivirals?

Proactiveness is also the only way to combat car accidents; we should close the roads when it is raining.

the thing did kill like 150 people+ worldwide within just a week of discovery and outbreak...

That's roughly as fast as the normal flu spreads, which kills 36,000 people a year.

Still, I remain stalwart in my opinion that I will freak out when the time comes, and that time is not now. I am a little more cautious, though my curiousity of the growth of this flu is quite overpowering the caution in me.

I don't understand why people are such a ridiculous amount more cautious than they are during flu season.
 
What about antivirals?

The thing about antiviral medicines is that can shorten the course of the flu, but only by about 1 day. And you must to take the medicine within 2 days of getting sick for it to work. Most people don't feel symptoms that early, so oftentimes, the drugs have no effect at all.
 
The thing about antiviral medicines is that can shorten the course of the flu, but only by about 1 day. And you must to take the medicine within 2 days of getting sick for it to work. Most people don't feel symptoms that early, so oftentimes, the drugs have no effect at all.

If you don't feel the symptoms that early, you don't have a bad enough case of swine flu that it matters.

Antivirals don't just shorten the length, they significantly reduce the symptoms. Swine flu is the variant of flu most susceptible to antivirals, and we have plenty to go around.
 
Tangerine touched on the problem - it's not that the flu is so dangerous that it will bring about the end of humanity - quite the opposite, it's not particularly harmful - a 1% death rate is acceptable. but it is infectious, and if it mutates (which viruses are so good at doing) into something more harmful, a virus which has effects similar to those of bird flu, then we really are in trouble - remember, bird flu had something like a 50% death rate. That's the really dangerous thing about swine flu IMO. and habitually, Don't Panic! That's the best thing to do.
 
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