I believe that's due to the effects not activating when the Raid Pokemon sets up its shield, which protects them from stat drops, status conditions, etc. Otherwise, the effects continue to stack up in any other scenario.
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Sword & Shield Battle Mechanics Research
- Thread starter Marty
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I thought G-Max Steelsurge sets Spikes like G-Max Stonesurge sets Rocks, but it seems to be listed as its own unique hazard on the battlefield status screen - can somebody with a G-Copperajah test this?
EDIT: Niiiiice. And thankyou. ^_^
EDIT: Niiiiice. And thankyou. ^_^
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Copperajah's G-max move sets Stealth Steel, not Spikes. See this video, where Inteleon later switches in on it and takes just 10 damage out of 172 HP.
Yung Dramps
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Can we get definitive closure on Choice Items' interaction with Dynamax? Do the items' boost still apply even with the ability to switch up moves or nah? I remember there being some proof of no boost, but it was contested and left unresolved.
Hey guys... I dunno if this has been asked but... it looks like Dynamax does something like an "Embargo effect" over Choice items locking items so:
1.- Does Choice items effect (boost over speed, Attack or Special Attack for each one) will still be in effect for every single one of them.
2.- Which other items are also affected by this "Embargo effect"? I'm in particular interested by possibly losing Eviolite effect in NFE mons during Dynamax...
See ya
1.- Does Choice items effect (boost over speed, Attack or Special Attack for each one) will still be in effect for every single one of them.
2.- Which other items are also affected by this "Embargo effect"? I'm in particular interested by possibly losing Eviolite effect in NFE mons during Dynamax...
See ya
Yung Dramps
awesome gaming
Swift Swim outspeeds, no?
Yeah but speed tiers are calculated right before the turn starts, at least in gen 7. In this case, pelipper switches in and as soon as it does it looks like seismistoad gets the speed boost
Speeds couldn't be locked in until mega evolution took effect, and switching happens before mega evolution on the same turn, hence speed determination also has to wait until after switches and any effects they might create.
As far as I'm aware, Mega evolution triggers a speed recalculation on the mon that mega evolves (that's why Mega Swampert can get the rain boost the same turn it mega evolves)
Ty for that confirmation, I did tested this on PS a while ago and it uses dynamaxed HP for recoil, like 38 HP Dynamaxed mon loses 3 HP from LO recoil, rather than 1 (19 HP is the mon's base)
But does the shield protect them from damage? Because it's weird if Max Knuckle connected and didn't give the user an Attack boost.
Can confirm that in addition to Intimidate being blocked by Own Tempo and Inner Focus, it is also blocked by Oblivious
I am so glad my theory is picking steam...it may be worth looking into any ability that deals with a mentality for testing vs intimidate
To add to that, what about Mental Herb? Does it block Intimidate?
about time they nerfed that trash
Have we figured out how Body Press works yet?
Is it like Gyro ball/electro ball where the higher your stat, the more the BP, but it still uses your normal Atk for the damage calculation?
Or does it actually use your defense stat in place of the attack stat in the calc?
Simple test:
Use body press, take a note of the damage.
Use Swords Dance then use Body Press again. Was the damage doubled?
Use Iron Defense then use Body Press again. Was the damage doubled?
Is it like Gyro ball/electro ball where the higher your stat, the more the BP, but it still uses your normal Atk for the damage calculation?
Or does it actually use your defense stat in place of the attack stat in the calc?
Simple test:
Use body press, take a note of the damage.
Use Swords Dance then use Body Press again. Was the damage doubled?
Use Iron Defense then use Body Press again. Was the damage doubled?
The shield doesn’t fully protect them from damage, even from normal non-Max attacks. The shield just adds damage resistance in that regard, but the main function is to shield the max mon from status ailments, stat drops, Max move effects, etc.
If you play with animations turned off, you can see that when Cramorant uses Dive it actually goes through the Forme change and then hides underwater--which was useful for me because on one particular usage the opponent Cramorant ended up turning into Pikachu-gulp, so I was able to switch to an Electric type instead of getting a surprise wallop.
It would seem that all that needs to happen is the first turn being able to be executed (i.e., the message "Cramorant used Dive!" appearing), so anything happening on the second turn wouldn't affect Gulp Missile. I suppose it is also theoretically possible to tell whether it's Pikachu-gulp or Barracuda-gulp on the first turn, but PvP battles require animations to be on, right?
If it's anything like Gen VII, then you cannot turn off animations for PvP.
It is useful for the Battle Tower, though.
