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Tangrowth Dex
[Overview]
<p>Though a firm UU last generation, Tangrowth received a very useful new toy with the onset of BW with Regenerator as his Dream World ability. With higher physical bulk than Forretress or Skarmory, he can readily put this newfound ability to use as an often overlooked physical tank. The advent of Drought Ninetales and Growth becoming a Swords Dance and Nasty Plot combined under the sun also makes Tangrowth a more viable Chlorophyll abuser than ever before. Although other Grass-types offer him some stiff competition due to his lackluster Speed and Special Defense, he has a drastically better physical movepool than all of them, as well as excellent abilities in Regenerator and Chlorophyll, providing him with a definite niche in the new metagame.</p>
[SET]
name: Physical Tank
move 1: Sleep Powder
move 2: Power Whip / Giga Drain
move 3: Hidden Power Ice / Earthquake
move 4: Leech Seed
ability: Regenerator
nature: Relaxed
item: Leftovers
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Tangrowth’s physical bulk is very impressive - here reaching 404 HP and 383 Def - and this set abuses Regeneration to keep him around for as long as possible. Sleep Powder is essential to deal with a possible counter or check, and under the new mechanics, this can be a huge blow to would-be counters. Power Whip is Tangrowth’s strongest reliable STAB option, which still hits Rock-types like Tranitar hard under sandstorm. Giga Drain can, however, be useful for additional healing, or if you need to hit something hard from the special side. Earthquake hits Fire-types resistant to Grass, whereas Hidden Power Ice hits Dragons and fellow Grass-types. Leech Seed is preferred in the last slot for the extra healing and residual damage on an opponent which Tangrowth greatly appreciates.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>As an alternative STAB attack, Leaf Storm can be used due to its great power and the fact that while abusing Regeneration Tangrowth will be switching out a lot. Stun Spore, Knock Off, and Toxic are alternative support options, with Stun Spore being the most attractive due to the number of fast and powerful sweepers in the current metagame.</p>
<p>In terms of coverage, if using only one non-STAB attack Hidden Power Ice is probably the best choice, allowing you hit the numerous OU Dragons as well as Grass-types immune to Leech Seed. It still leaves Tangrowth walled by Fire-types, but their frequent use of Air Balloon and dual typings means that Earthquake will often be worthless against them anyway, unless you can repeatedly predict their switches. Running both Hidden Power Ice and Earthquake, and dropping Leech Seed to allow for for better coverage but less healing can be viable, depending on your other Pokemons' needs. If your team can deal with Dragons without Tangrowth, Hidden Power Fire is a possibility over Ice to prevent Ferrothorn from coming in and setting up on this set easily. Focus Blast offers a way to hit Air Balloon Heatran along with being able to decimate Tyranitar, and if going physical or trying to avoid poor accuracy, Brick Break can take its place. However, Focus Blast fails to 2HKO standard Ferrothorn, Air Balloon Heatran can be dealt with by using Sleep Powder or by hitting it as it switches in, and Tyranitar takes a large hit from STAB Power Whip, making a Fighting move generally inferior to the other options.</p>
<p>Relaxed is the nature of choice since Tangrowth's speed is awful anyway, and the only thing of note he misses out on outpacing is Conkeldurr, though 24 EVs can be moved from Defense to Speed to remedy this. When using a set attacking from only one side of the attacking spectrum, altering his nature to either Impish or Bold would of course be a better option. If not dropping his speed with Relaxed, Tangrowth’s EVs can be adjusted to allow him to outspeed 0 Speed Jellicent, Swampert and Blissey with an alternative spread of 252 HP / 172 Def / 84 Spe. Doing this is possible with Relaxed but requires a total of 140 EVs in Speed, making it inadvisable. If using Hidden Power Ice, remember to counteract the IV drop with an extra 4 EVs.<p>
[SET]
name: Chlorophyll Sweeper
move 1: Power Whip
move 2: Hidden Power Fire
move 3: Earthquake / Rock Slide
move 4: Growth / Sleep Powder
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Naughty
item: Life Orb
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Although not the fastest Chlorophyll abuser, Tangrowth holds the second highest combined attacking stats of any with this ability, as well as significant bulk even without any investment. Power Whip is present as obligatory STAB, being the prime choice here due to its power, and due to the hard hit on Tyranitar, who always gives sun teams issues. Hidden Power Fire is a great choice in sun, netting you OHKOs on most Grass-types even without a Growth. Earthquake gives powerful coverage on most Fire-types, but Rock Slide can be used instead, still hitting Fire-types hard and Heatran neutrally, but allowing for a super effective hit on the Dragon / Flying-types, all of whom would wall this set otherwise. Growth is preferred on a sun sweeper set, as it boosts both attacking stats two stages when used in sunlight, though Sleep Powder is still viable.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The EV spread given allows you to just hit the Speed benchmark of 396 in sun when accounting for the 30 Spe IV for Hidden Power Fire. However, switching to a Naive nature will allow you to reach a perhaps more beneficial mark instead, beating, notably, Choice Scarf Heatran and +1 Speed Gyarados. 240 Speed is the required investment to beat these threats with Naive and Hidden Power Fire, letting you add a little more to Special Attack. Even with his speed maximised, Tangrowth still cannot outpace a lot of Choice Scarfers, meaning that their elimination is necessary for him to perform a sweep. A faster Chlorophyll abuser can be used for this role, leaving Tangrowth to clean up with Growth, with good options being Sawsbuck, Venusaur, or Shiftry. Your own fast Choice Scarf user can also do this well, and Dragon-types fare particularly well in sun due to the boost their Fire attacks receive. Naturally, Wobbuffet also does this job extremely well.</p>
[Other Options]
<p>Stun Spore and Knock Off are viable on any defensive set, crippling faster switch-ins or threats and removing Leftovers recovery, respectively. Toxic is less desirable due to Tangrowth’s other moves being of rarer distribution and thus more useful to most teams, but is still usable. Sleep Powder is the main reason for these moves being less viable, as its ability to remove one Pokemon from the match almost entirely is often more useful. Amnesia is the final support option that can be utilized, boosting Tangrowth's Special Defense from awful to acceptable levels. However, on a defensive set where it is of use, moveslots are sparse and other coverage or status moves will often prove far more valuable than the extra special bulk would. Synthesis may have been useful on defensive Tangrowth for added recovery, were it not for it being illegal with Regenerator. Using it with a sun-related ability is the only possible option, and is quite viable due to the boosted recovery it offers. Rest and Sleep Talk allows Tangrowth to function as a status absorber, but the lack of two moveslots and inability to control Sleep Powder's use is a huge downfall.</p>
<p>Most viable attacking moves have been mentioned, aside from Nature Power (mimicking Earthquake in Wifi battles) to replace Earthquake wherever it is used, as it has much greater PP. Unfortunately, it is technically a status move and as such can be Taunted, making Earthquake the superior choice unless you desperately need the extra PP. Tangrowth having access to such a huge array of coverage moves makes a Choice Band set seem attractive, but his appallingly low Speed means his switch-in options are extremely limited and he can be revenge killed very easily. Similarly, a Swords Dance set is possible, but his Speed stops any use for this besides some wallbreaking, where it is outclassed.</p>
<p>SubSeeding is a possible direction to take Tangrowth in, as with practically every other Grass-type, and given his ability to regenerate health for another Substitute upon switching out, he initially seems a prime candidate. However, his awful Speed and Special Defense let him down despite his physical bulk and 101 Substitutes, meaning Shaymin, for example, often does the job better. In general, Tangrowth sees better use as a defensive pivot, able to repeatedly and easily switch in thanks to his Regenerator ability. If you do choose to run a SubSeed set, Giga Drain is the attack of choice for added healing whilst Hidden Power Fire lets it deal with Ferrothorn - and as per the other sets Sleep Powder can deal with a single other counter, or another support option could be used.</p>
<p>When abusing Chlorophyll in the sun, Wide Lens can be utilized if you are using several imperfect accuracy moves, but the power drop is significant unless running Growth to make up for it. SolarBeam is also viable on sun sets due to its sheer power, but the surprise factor the first time you use it will often turn against you as Tyranitar begin switching into your STAB and locking you into a charge-up turn. It also restricts Tangrowth you severely in the role of countering Tyranitar and/or Politoed, which he can otherwise perform quite well, and is often crucial on sun teams.</p>
[Checks and Counters]
<p>Tangrowth, while incredibly bulky on the physical side, can be dealt a lot of damage by even strong neutral attacks to his weak special side. Anything specially powerful that outspeeds and is able to take most of its attacks without concern can easily switch in and threaten to KO him, with some minor prediction necessary in order to get in safely. However, due to Regenerator, Tangrowth can easily switch out when a counter comes in to wear them down with entry hazards and other damage, while remaining at good health himself, which often means tricky prediction is required to deal with him effectively.</p>
<p>Fellow Grass-types counter Tangrowth relatively well - Virizion earns a special mention for its resistance to Tangrowth’s STAB, immunity to Leech Seed and Special Defense high enough to shrug off super effective Hidden Powers while setting up Calm Minds. To a lesser extent, Celebi or Breloom can set up on Tangrowth too, and are able to shrug off or avoid any status Tangrowth may throw their way too with Natural Cure and Toxic Orb, respectively. Ferrothorn poses severe problems unless HP Fire is being run due to being immune to almost all the residual damage Tangrowth likes to exploit and being able to set up entry hazards against Tangrowth.</p>
<p>Any special Fire-type can very easily eliminate Tangrowth, especially if they run Balloon to avoid Earthquake. Heatran in particular is a potent threat due to its ability to easily survive unboosted Focus Blasts, as is Chandelure for being immune to them, and both resist Grass and are immune to Fire attacks. Even worse, however, is Volcarona, who resists Grass, Ice, Fighting, and is neutral to Hidden Power Fire and Earthquake, whilst packing two STABs which can OHKO Tangrowth, and Butterfly Dance to threaten the rest of your team.</p>
<p>Counters for the Chlorophyll set in the sun include any positive-natured Choice Scarf user with a base Speed of 85 or higher and a super effective move. Notably, a Scarfed Latios or Latias with Hidden Power Fire or Ice will counter him very well. Faster Chlorophyll users with Hidden Power Fire or Ice serve excellently as well, as long as they can get in safely. Politoed and Tyranitar often carry Ice Beam or Flamethrower, respectively, and if able to switch into Tangrowth can take away his Speed boost. Both have higher base Speed than Tangrowth, and can safely OHKO if they manage to switch in, but only if running enough Speed EVs to avoid a possibly Naive Tangrowth from OHKOing the valuable weather setters first.</p>
GP checks from: Athenodoros, Aeron Ee1
Tangrowth Dex
[Overview]
<p>Though a firm UU last generation, Tangrowth received a very useful new toy with the onset of BW with Regenerator as his Dream World ability. With higher physical bulk than Forretress or Skarmory, he can readily put this newfound ability to use as an often overlooked physical tank. The advent of Drought Ninetales and Growth becoming a Swords Dance and Nasty Plot combined under the sun also makes Tangrowth a more viable Chlorophyll abuser than ever before. Although other Grass-types offer him some stiff competition due to his lackluster Speed and Special Defense, he has a drastically better physical movepool than all of them, as well as excellent abilities in Regenerator and Chlorophyll, providing him with a definite niche in the new metagame.</p>
[SET]
name: Physical Tank
move 1: Sleep Powder
move 2: Power Whip / Giga Drain
move 3: Hidden Power Ice / Earthquake
move 4: Leech Seed
ability: Regenerator
nature: Relaxed
item: Leftovers
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Tangrowth’s physical bulk is very impressive - here reaching 404 HP and 383 Def - and this set abuses Regeneration to keep him around for as long as possible. Sleep Powder is essential to deal with a possible counter or check, and under the new mechanics, this can be a huge blow to would-be counters. Power Whip is Tangrowth’s strongest reliable STAB option, which still hits Rock-types like Tranitar hard under sandstorm. Giga Drain can, however, be useful for additional healing, or if you need to hit something hard from the special side. Earthquake hits Fire-types resistant to Grass, whereas Hidden Power Ice hits Dragons and fellow Grass-types. Leech Seed is preferred in the last slot for the extra healing and residual damage on an opponent which Tangrowth greatly appreciates.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>As an alternative STAB attack, Leaf Storm can be used due to its great power and the fact that while abusing Regeneration Tangrowth will be switching out a lot. Stun Spore, Knock Off, and Toxic are alternative support options, with Stun Spore being the most attractive due to the number of fast and powerful sweepers in the current metagame.</p>
<p>In terms of coverage, if using only one non-STAB attack Hidden Power Ice is probably the best choice, allowing you hit the numerous OU Dragons as well as Grass-types immune to Leech Seed. It still leaves Tangrowth walled by Fire-types, but their frequent use of Air Balloon and dual typings means that Earthquake will often be worthless against them anyway, unless you can repeatedly predict their switches. Running both Hidden Power Ice and Earthquake, and dropping Leech Seed to allow for for better coverage but less healing can be viable, depending on your other Pokemons' needs. If your team can deal with Dragons without Tangrowth, Hidden Power Fire is a possibility over Ice to prevent Ferrothorn from coming in and setting up on this set easily. Focus Blast offers a way to hit Air Balloon Heatran along with being able to decimate Tyranitar, and if going physical or trying to avoid poor accuracy, Brick Break can take its place. However, Focus Blast fails to 2HKO standard Ferrothorn, Air Balloon Heatran can be dealt with by using Sleep Powder or by hitting it as it switches in, and Tyranitar takes a large hit from STAB Power Whip, making a Fighting move generally inferior to the other options.</p>
<p>Relaxed is the nature of choice since Tangrowth's speed is awful anyway, and the only thing of note he misses out on outpacing is Conkeldurr, though 24 EVs can be moved from Defense to Speed to remedy this. When using a set attacking from only one side of the attacking spectrum, altering his nature to either Impish or Bold would of course be a better option. If not dropping his speed with Relaxed, Tangrowth’s EVs can be adjusted to allow him to outspeed 0 Speed Jellicent, Swampert and Blissey with an alternative spread of 252 HP / 172 Def / 84 Spe. Doing this is possible with Relaxed but requires a total of 140 EVs in Speed, making it inadvisable. If using Hidden Power Ice, remember to counteract the IV drop with an extra 4 EVs.<p>
[SET]
name: Chlorophyll Sweeper
move 1: Power Whip
move 2: Hidden Power Fire
move 3: Earthquake / Rock Slide
move 4: Growth / Sleep Powder
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Naughty
item: Life Orb
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Although not the fastest Chlorophyll abuser, Tangrowth holds the second highest combined attacking stats of any with this ability, as well as significant bulk even without any investment. Power Whip is present as obligatory STAB, being the prime choice here due to its power, and due to the hard hit on Tyranitar, who always gives sun teams issues. Hidden Power Fire is a great choice in sun, netting you OHKOs on most Grass-types even without a Growth. Earthquake gives powerful coverage on most Fire-types, but Rock Slide can be used instead, still hitting Fire-types hard and Heatran neutrally, but allowing for a super effective hit on the Dragon / Flying-types, all of whom would wall this set otherwise. Growth is preferred on a sun sweeper set, as it boosts both attacking stats two stages when used in sunlight, though Sleep Powder is still viable.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The EV spread given allows you to just hit the Speed benchmark of 396 in sun when accounting for the 30 Spe IV for Hidden Power Fire. However, switching to a Naive nature will allow you to reach a perhaps more beneficial mark instead, beating, notably, Choice Scarf Heatran and +1 Speed Gyarados. 240 Speed is the required investment to beat these threats with Naive and Hidden Power Fire, letting you add a little more to Special Attack. Even with his speed maximised, Tangrowth still cannot outpace a lot of Choice Scarfers, meaning that their elimination is necessary for him to perform a sweep. A faster Chlorophyll abuser can be used for this role, leaving Tangrowth to clean up with Growth, with good options being Sawsbuck, Venusaur, or Shiftry. Your own fast Choice Scarf user can also do this well, and Dragon-types fare particularly well in sun due to the boost their Fire attacks receive. Naturally, Wobbuffet also does this job extremely well.</p>
[Other Options]
<p>Stun Spore and Knock Off are viable on any defensive set, crippling faster switch-ins or threats and removing Leftovers recovery, respectively. Toxic is less desirable due to Tangrowth’s other moves being of rarer distribution and thus more useful to most teams, but is still usable. Sleep Powder is the main reason for these moves being less viable, as its ability to remove one Pokemon from the match almost entirely is often more useful. Amnesia is the final support option that can be utilized, boosting Tangrowth's Special Defense from awful to acceptable levels. However, on a defensive set where it is of use, moveslots are sparse and other coverage or status moves will often prove far more valuable than the extra special bulk would. Synthesis may have been useful on defensive Tangrowth for added recovery, were it not for it being illegal with Regenerator. Using it with a sun-related ability is the only possible option, and is quite viable due to the boosted recovery it offers. Rest and Sleep Talk allows Tangrowth to function as a status absorber, but the lack of two moveslots and inability to control Sleep Powder's use is a huge downfall.</p>
<p>Most viable attacking moves have been mentioned, aside from Nature Power (mimicking Earthquake in Wifi battles) to replace Earthquake wherever it is used, as it has much greater PP. Unfortunately, it is technically a status move and as such can be Taunted, making Earthquake the superior choice unless you desperately need the extra PP. Tangrowth having access to such a huge array of coverage moves makes a Choice Band set seem attractive, but his appallingly low Speed means his switch-in options are extremely limited and he can be revenge killed very easily. Similarly, a Swords Dance set is possible, but his Speed stops any use for this besides some wallbreaking, where it is outclassed.</p>
<p>SubSeeding is a possible direction to take Tangrowth in, as with practically every other Grass-type, and given his ability to regenerate health for another Substitute upon switching out, he initially seems a prime candidate. However, his awful Speed and Special Defense let him down despite his physical bulk and 101 Substitutes, meaning Shaymin, for example, often does the job better. In general, Tangrowth sees better use as a defensive pivot, able to repeatedly and easily switch in thanks to his Regenerator ability. If you do choose to run a SubSeed set, Giga Drain is the attack of choice for added healing whilst Hidden Power Fire lets it deal with Ferrothorn - and as per the other sets Sleep Powder can deal with a single other counter, or another support option could be used.</p>
<p>When abusing Chlorophyll in the sun, Wide Lens can be utilized if you are using several imperfect accuracy moves, but the power drop is significant unless running Growth to make up for it. SolarBeam is also viable on sun sets due to its sheer power, but the surprise factor the first time you use it will often turn against you as Tyranitar begin switching into your STAB and locking you into a charge-up turn. It also restricts Tangrowth you severely in the role of countering Tyranitar and/or Politoed, which he can otherwise perform quite well, and is often crucial on sun teams.</p>
[Checks and Counters]
<p>Tangrowth, while incredibly bulky on the physical side, can be dealt a lot of damage by even strong neutral attacks to his weak special side. Anything specially powerful that outspeeds and is able to take most of its attacks without concern can easily switch in and threaten to KO him, with some minor prediction necessary in order to get in safely. However, due to Regenerator, Tangrowth can easily switch out when a counter comes in to wear them down with entry hazards and other damage, while remaining at good health himself, which often means tricky prediction is required to deal with him effectively.</p>
<p>Fellow Grass-types counter Tangrowth relatively well - Virizion earns a special mention for its resistance to Tangrowth’s STAB, immunity to Leech Seed and Special Defense high enough to shrug off super effective Hidden Powers while setting up Calm Minds. To a lesser extent, Celebi or Breloom can set up on Tangrowth too, and are able to shrug off or avoid any status Tangrowth may throw their way too with Natural Cure and Toxic Orb, respectively. Ferrothorn poses severe problems unless HP Fire is being run due to being immune to almost all the residual damage Tangrowth likes to exploit and being able to set up entry hazards against Tangrowth.</p>
<p>Any special Fire-type can very easily eliminate Tangrowth, especially if they run Balloon to avoid Earthquake. Heatran in particular is a potent threat due to its ability to easily survive unboosted Focus Blasts, as is Chandelure for being immune to them, and both resist Grass and are immune to Fire attacks. Even worse, however, is Volcarona, who resists Grass, Ice, Fighting, and is neutral to Hidden Power Fire and Earthquake, whilst packing two STABs which can OHKO Tangrowth, and Butterfly Dance to threaten the rest of your team.</p>
<p>Counters for the Chlorophyll set in the sun include any positive-natured Choice Scarf user with a base Speed of 85 or higher and a super effective move. Notably, a Scarfed Latios or Latias with Hidden Power Fire or Ice will counter him very well. Faster Chlorophyll users with Hidden Power Fire or Ice serve excellently as well, as long as they can get in safely. Politoed and Tyranitar often carry Ice Beam or Flamethrower, respectively, and if able to switch into Tangrowth can take away his Speed boost. Both have higher base Speed than Tangrowth, and can safely OHKO if they manage to switch in, but only if running enough Speed EVs to avoid a possibly Naive Tangrowth from OHKOing the valuable weather setters first.</p>