I only use it for cloning and getting extra TMs and whatnot. I -hate- people using hacked Pokemon. Dont care if the parents were hacked, or hacked TMs, or whatever, just not directly hacked.
I think if you want perfect monsters without effort, go for NetBattle or wait for Competitor. If you're too busy to put effort into the game, rather than cheat, play something that you can actually enjoy for itself. Don't waste money on Pokémon. Or just battle fellow hackers with perfect teams made effortlessly. Don't battle other players just so you can cheat them out of a fair match. Racking up a win record by cheating to do what? Impress people online? Become 1337? Gaia Online has tons of members swarming Smogon now.. people with Wonderguard Spiritombs, Sleep Powder Honchkrows, etc. Scams have been getting pretty sick too. People trading fakes and pawning them off as real - then others finding out that the monster is fake because it turns into a bad egg or is banned from PBR. Darkrai and Arceus are nice, but I don't give a crap if they're available or not. I don't want them. Most people ban legendaries in battle anyway. With cloning and WiFi trade, people can easily spread official Arceus/Darkrai/Shaymin when they're actually released. It's not like back in the older games where only people who actually went to Nintendo Events can get a Celebi or something.
Excluding people from the game just because they don't want to spend hours of mindless, luck-based breeding just isn't fair. Most hackers hack because they want a level playing field, not because they want to trash teams with their Wonderguard Spiritomb or No guard, Sheer Cold Ninjack. Also, most people don't ban legendaries. I don't think anybody bans legendaries on smogon.
Excluding people from the game just because they don't want to [or can] spend hours of mindless, luck-based breeding just isn't fair. Most hackers hack because they want a level playing field, not because they want to trash teams with their Wonderguard Spiritomb or No guard, Sheer Cold Ninjack. Also, most people don't ban legendaries. I don't think anybody bans legendaries on smogon.
Well people who participate in official tournaments can't use hacked monsters and I doubt they all managed to capture or breed perfect monsters to have an equal standing with one another.
I only use it for Cloning and Fast Egg Hatching, I cant Pokesav since I lost the CD and My dog Ate My Cable.
If you want to play competitively with perfect IVs and no effort because you're busy, then go ahead - battle other people exactly like that, but rarely ever will you run into someone with 6 perfect monsters without hacking.
I've been to other forums like Neoseeker and the hacking there is getting out of hand - beyond max stats alone. On the internet though, you can run into a lot of deceptive people.
Pokemon battling is not the same as pokemon breeding. I know they both start with "B" which can be tricky but please try not to confuse the two. Breeding for a single pokemon requires more time on average than battling does. Battling also requires six of these pokemon.. This is first and foremost a competitive battling site.. not a competitive breeding site. We focus on the strategy involved with battling and specifically human vs human battling. The core of this community is here because they like battling. I'd rather waste hours of my time playing the part of the game I actually enjoy instead of the part that Jumpman does while driving 80mph. Yes, breeding requires that much brain activity.
I see where the "time and effort" thing comes into play and making it unfair for competition when someone spends five minutes versus your 50 hours on a team. At the same time, however, you chose to spend those 50 hours breeding. You could just as easily have gone online and found the equipment needed to shark your pokemon. In a Smogon tournament I will be all about using only pokemon I've bred/"legally obtained." For casual battling, I have no problem with anyone sharking anything so long as it can be done in the game as well. It all comes down to how much you value your free time and how much of it you have. Jump could probably come in here and argue with me but that's how I feel about it in general. To me 60 bucks seems cheap for the amount of time I save.
Well now that's just silly. Because it's a great game, lots of fun, and takes up a whole lot less time than selling your soul to an MMO. Plus, strategy games (imo) are a whole lot less of a waste of time than fps's.
I'm just curious...if this (or any of the similar posts) is being directed at me, did you read what I stated above at all? I don't touch/change/edit any values, period. That includes IV's. I agree that would be crossing a line. It seems like most of the smogon AR using community agrees with this viewpoint.
This I completely understand...because the IGN boards are the same way. I came here because I was sick of it.
Battles should be more of a test of your skills and the strategy you're implimenting to win as opposed to like.. a test to see who's a better hacker. A lot of people advise me to just stick to battling Smogon users, but with it's advertisement on places like Gaia Online, where the most popular users are the ones with Levitating Pichu with 800 HP and Fire Blast.. just kinda pisses me off that this place might be flooded with gimmicks soon.
I think if you want perfect monsters without effort, go for NetBattle or wait for Competitor. If you're too busy to put effort into the game, rather than cheat, play something that you can actually enjoy for itself. Don't waste money on Pokémon. Or just battle fellow hackers with perfect teams made effortlessly. Don't battle other players just so you can cheat them out of a fair match.
General Tso said:Actually Carl, although I'm speaking on behalf of myself, not everyone can buy an AR. I certainly can't, only getting games as a present from Christmas or birthdays, so I feel I would be at a disadvantage and instead make up for it by breeding although having an AR will admittedly save time.
Pokemon battles on Gaia? Maybe in some guilds, but I've never heard anything about Pokemon there except a topic with the title "fuck this, I'm going to watch Pokemon".
Competitive battles should be saved for Simulators/PBR WiFi if unbeatable Pichu's are your problem.
I'm pretty sure most the people complaining they "don't have enough time" are full of BS. Do you watch TV? Movies? Go on the internet? Just breed while doing these things. Unlike one 30 minute battle, once you've bred something once you won't need to spend time doing it again.
How is it unfair? You can buy the tools needed to modify all this stuff as well. It's not like only certain people can buy an Action Replay and others can't. It's unfair to you because you don't have one or don't use it for this purpose. Understandable to feel this way if you take the time to breed for pokemon... but by this logic wouldn't it be unfair for a person who has less time to breed battling a person who has more time? You said it yourself you breed to get an advantage so suddenly it's unfair when it gets taken away and we're put on an even playing field??