Other The effectiveness of Baton Pass teams after the nerf

[Gloating]

Just want to drop in and say Deoxys-S getting banned does not really affect current BP at all, I just won about 30 battles im a row on PO using Mew as a lead with Screens, Stealth Rock and Taunt. Showdown is too slow on my phone.

 

[Zebstrika]

Right, Deoxys-S is definitely not by far the best screener, if it even is the best. It doesn't have any surprise factor on a baton pass team, we know it's screeens. Mew, Azelf, Klefki, Uxie, and Espeon are all good replacements, they even have some niches over Deoxys-S. I personally like Azelf because it goes boom without having to worry about the opponent awkwardly dicking around to stall out the screens.

 

[WebBowser]

Right, Deoxys-S is definitely not by far the best screener, if it even is the best. It doesn't have any surprise factor on a baton pass team, we know it's screeens. Mew, Azelf, Klefki, Uxie, and Espeon are all good replacements, they even have some niches over Deoxys-S. I personally like Azelf because it goes boom without having to worry about the opponent awkwardly dicking around to stall out the screens.

I actually prefer Latios, better typing, actually has offensive presence, and most importantly, memento. Great for punishing offensive swap ins like ttar.

 

[shack]

true, but this has nothing to do with quagsire specifically. haze quag, as you said, is at best, a shaky check to bp, and requires you to sac a moveslot, which usually ends up being Toxic. Not good, as this is mandatory for stallbreaking and countering set-up sweepers ala Char-X. For its intended role, Quag doesn't have the room to spare a moveslot - the Haze setup gives you an answer to BP pre-setup, but doesn't serve any function other than that. Bottomline: it's a gimmick. Not trying to be mean, I just don't see any reason for continuing this debate.

Then why did you post this? Lol. I never said Quagsire was the counter to BP. I said the videos previously posted in this thread attempted to use Unaware Quagsire as a counter. It did help slow down Denis from boosting, but eventually the Quag user messed up a prediction and let Denis set up.

I don't get why all of you are jumping to conclusions? I swear people on this site just like to blindly argue anything they can.

 

[Subject 18]

With the recent news about Baton Pass being limited to just 1 Pokemon per team, this thread doesn't serve much of a purpose. Thank you to everyone who contributed to this thread.