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The Everything NFL Thread - 2013-2014 Edition
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You are giving Sean Payton way too little credit.
I find it funny how you're still holding on to that win... I guess I would too if say the Eggs were something like 46-8 against divisional opponents over the past decade like the Patriots are. Not trying to sound rude, juts find it humorous.
Can't really argue what you said. So i'll take you word for it. Not expecting much.
First off, I hate what if statements because they're mostly useless. They probably would of been better off yeah, but I honestly don't care since it didn't work out that way.
Are you calling Tannehill crappy? I can understand calling all of their other QBs crappy since Marino(except for Pennington), but calling a 2nd year QB who went through a developmental year his first year while having a limited wide receiver core crappy is premature, I think. Also have you seen him in play in the last two preseason games? He's been solid.
Though losing Keller hurts a lot and I hate to see that happen to him.
When your rookie season is more comparable to Christian Ponder's than Matt Ryan's, you pretty much had a crappy season regardless of context.
Sure, Tannehill might be better this season and every season afterwards, but every other season put in by a Phins QB the past decade has been crap with the exception of one year by Chad Pennington.
Sure, Tannehill might be better this season and every season afterwards, but every other season put in by a Phins QB the past decade has been crap with the exception of one year by Chad Pennington.
Ah yes Pennington. The master of the Comeback player of the Year award.
Also I laughed at this when I really shouldnt have:
You have what ifs? You must be the most boring person in the fucking world, hypotheticals are fantastic. Sports enjoyment is influenced by so much context that things like "what would have happened if Miami does not shit on Drew Brees" is extremely relevant.
Does it matter what I called Tannehill? Drew Brees has been the best "toss it up over and over" QB in the league for several years (not the most efficient). So you what, you think missing out on 8 years of Brees is somehow helped by if Tannehill is any good? You still missed out on 8-??? years of DREW BREES.
(I prefer to look at what has happened, not try to project so many hypotheticals...Tannehill had an awful first season, if he goes off and does better this year cool, he wasted a year of great rushing & killer D & a quality offensive line though)
I'm not saying his season wasn't crappy, since it kind of was, but saying Tannehill is a crappy QB (which is what I thought CK was implying) based on his rookie season is premature.
I don't see them as fantastic, I see them as dwelling in the past. Instead of wondering if Miami would be better if they signed Brees, I rather focus on what's happening now. I honestly don't see the relevancy of a past hypothetical situation where the conclusion can not be obtained and/or can have infinite outcomes to a current point in time. Now if you're just asking for entertainment purposes, than whatever, but I don't think they have a point overall.
How the fuck you got that from what I said is beyond me. Rather he turns out good or not doesn't change the fact that Miami was terrible those eight years.
I was going to reply to that last point, but I'm tired and I feel like it. -_-
Von Miller suspended for 6 games/yawn.
This has 0 effect on the Broncos season. Peyton is good enough for 10 wins by himself, and Von will be back for the playoffs. So yeah, all this does is give hope to the fans of teams who are facing the Broncos before week 7.
This has 0 effect on the Broncos season. Peyton is good enough for 10 wins by himself, and Von will be back for the playoffs. So yeah, all this does is give hope to the fans of teams who are facing the Broncos before week 7.
If Jamaal is as good as you say, he should be fine if he is used as much as 2011 Mccoy. Also, hes got Captain Checkdown as QB. I'm sure Reid knows his QBs limits.
Eagles and Panthers will make the playoffs this season both finishing in the top 5 of the NFL for points scored
you heard it here first (and last)
you heard it here first (and last)
Andy Reid hates RBs, I just want to keep seeing 1400-1500 yard Jamaal Charles seasons
Lesean McCoy has averaged 17.5 carries/game and 3.8 catches/game over the past two seasons. If Charles can get anywhere close to his career 5.8 yards/carry and 8.4 yards/catch, he can easily reach an average of 100 yards/game with those numbers.
Reid just seemed to prematurely abandon the run at times, but that's nothing new to Charles (games with 5, 6, 9, 12, and 12 carries last year, 10 carries in 2011 season opener, got fewer carries than Thomas Jones in 2010 even though he was nearly twice as productive). I have high hopes that Charles can continue his production going into this season.
Reid just seemed to prematurely abandon the run at times, but that's nothing new to Charles (games with 5, 6, 9, 12, and 12 carries last year, 10 carries in 2011 season opener, got fewer carries than Thomas Jones in 2010 even though he was nearly twice as productive). I have high hopes that Charles can continue his production going into this season.
In 2011, McCoy's best year, Vick played 13 games and McCoy played 15, while they both played in 12 games. McCoy had 223 rushes and 37 receptions in those 12 games, at an average of 18.6 and 3.1 per game. In the other three games McCoy played, he averaged 16.7 rushes and 3.7 receptions per game.
In 2012, Vick only played in 10 games (really let's call it 9, he missed about 2/3rds of the first Dallas game), and McCoy played in 12. Together, they were on the field for 9 complete games. In these games, McCoy averaged 17.3 rushes and 3.9 receptions per game. In the three games that McCoy played and Vick didn't, he averaged 14.7 rushes and 6.3 receptions/game.
Obviously these are pretty small sample sizes, but it seems like McCoy was actually utilized more with a good passing game than without. It's likely that there's a more direct correlation between a successful offense -> McCoy's touches (or perhaps just "close games" -> more touches), as the offense was fairly productive with the presence of Vick and not so productive with Vince Young/Nick Foles at the helm. If Alex Smith can be a moderately productive passer, and the KC defense can keep games close, I find it hard to believe that Reid will find a way to underutilize Charles as much as last year's coaching staff did.
In 2012, Vick only played in 10 games (really let's call it 9, he missed about 2/3rds of the first Dallas game), and McCoy played in 12. Together, they were on the field for 9 complete games. In these games, McCoy averaged 17.3 rushes and 3.9 receptions per game. In the three games that McCoy played and Vick didn't, he averaged 14.7 rushes and 6.3 receptions/game.
Obviously these are pretty small sample sizes, but it seems like McCoy was actually utilized more with a good passing game than without. It's likely that there's a more direct correlation between a successful offense -> McCoy's touches (or perhaps just "close games" -> more touches), as the offense was fairly productive with the presence of Vick and not so productive with Vince Young/Nick Foles at the helm. If Alex Smith can be a moderately productive passer, and the KC defense can keep games close, I find it hard to believe that Reid will find a way to underutilize Charles as much as last year's coaching staff did.
It's possible that McCoy's increased receptions without Vick were because the lesser QBs liked to check down to him more? Or Reid called more screens to make it easier on them since he was less confident in their passing. Either way I don't think Reid necessarily limits RBs, I think he just expects them to be more involved in the passing game.
I don't think you guys realize how bad reid actually is when it comes to the run. Mccoy is actually just literally the 3rd best rb in the nfl behind peterson/charles but was never utilized correctly. Classic reid strategy: run the ball to start, completely abandon it later for no reason. Its like how the ravens use ray rice
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proudly reppin' 2 superbowl wins since DEFLATEGATE
Yeah, if only the Ravens knew how to use Ray Rice better they may have won a fucking Super Bowl or someth-
Yeah, New Rule: You're not allowed to complain about anything your team does within, IDK, 3 years of winning the Super Bowl.
Yeah, New Rule: You're not allowed to complain about anything your team does within, IDK, 3 years of winning the Super Bowl.
I'd argue McCoy is actually 2nd best rb, andy reid is like you said just an idiot
I don't know if it's worth anything but the kid played our high school back in the day when he was in high school and he was consistently dropping 400-yard games against our whole division
Kid is way too hard to tackle, if he was on the Vikings instead of AP he probably would be a 2,000 yard rusher too
Good thing he has Chip Kelly now
I don't know if it's worth anything but the kid played our high school back in the day when he was in high school and he was consistently dropping 400-yard games against our whole division
Kid is way too hard to tackle, if he was on the Vikings instead of AP he probably would be a 2,000 yard rusher too
Good thing he has Chip Kelly now
LOL good one. I guess the great Minnesota Vikings football team is now some kind of magical fairyland where "Insert this RB and he will easily deliver an all-time great season".
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The point is that when you're running the ball 348 times as long as you have an elite running back along the lines of McCoy/Charles/Peterson you're going to get a shitton of yards
Same thing when Chris Johnson ran for 2,006, 358 attempts is still a huge amount
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