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The Everything NHL Thread

Possibly even more awesome than that Hasek/Gaborik thing yesterday, the most epic moment I have ever seen in regular season hockey just occured. Crosby vs. Luongo, Penalty Shot, Overtime. This is why I buy center ice, hahaha. Does it get any better than that? No, because it didn't go in. Luongo sure is something else... I'm not going to give in on Brodeur being the best in the league(and all time!) but I love watching Luongo. I've always been a goalie guy, and with guys like him and Kipprusoff and Miller poised to be around for a while I have a lot to look forward to.

Dude that game was fucking awesome. I kept turning it on just to check in on my fantasy stats and ended up watching from sometime in the second until the very end. The penalty shot, the end of the 3rd and OT... then the shoot out. Man it was just a great game all around... fast and intense. Thank god I get the CBC.
 
crying IRL



I had an interesting moment a minute ago. It reminded me of the playoffs last year, I was watching the end of the NYR/NJ game, and since I had Brodeur on my bench it was just like last season, where I was cheering for who I wanted to win with no consideration about who it was convenient for me to win.

Much like during most of last season, the team I was cheering for lost =[ fuckin' Brendan Shanahan scored on Brodeur 30 seconds into OT and it made me cry. A shutout was the only thing that I could have gotten out of starting Brodeur so it made me look better from a fantasy perspective but I really would have rather he'd just gotten it :( 9 game winning streak shattered by division rivals too, ugh. I am so bummed right now :(. At least Detroit won I guess. That game gave me a bit of a fantasy scare too though - Dunyain tied me in goals temporarily with two Cole goals but Datsyuk and Holmstrom both scored in the last 3 minutes, Datsyuk with a pretty typical steal into breakaway thing(I am wearing my Datsyuk jersey shirt today and it made me smile) and Holmstrom with a rebound after Ward made it back to a net he'd tried to vacate near the end of the game after a stop on Zetterberg. Dunyain has a ridiculous roster though, I am afraid of how he'd be doing if he actually played... as of right now I am +9 this week and I am still losing +/- by four and am losing assists and PPP which doesn't happen to me too often. Avery and Nylander being injured kinda sucks a lot for me though, next two weeks or so might be rough for me!


On the bright side, I have both Brodeur and Lundqvist in another league so that game going into overtime 0-0 will probably save my stats for this week, lol. Whats UP one goal in 121 minutes, one goal on 46 shots, a shutout and a win.

EDIT: so much for what i said about 'temporarily' tieing me in goals since both of his two players today scored two goals. awesome.
 
I have an open slot on my fantasy team. This is a custom league that counts PPG, PPA and Face off wins for the offensive categories. My centers are Olli Jokinen, Marc Savard, Shawn Horcoff and Jason Arnott (the last two were waiver pickups). My left wings are Ovechkin, Simon gagne (he'll come back strong with Briere on his line) and Ryan Smyth.

SO my centers and left wings are strong. My RW slot is weak however. I have Gaborik, Rolston and Horton.

My league's waiver has Marleau, Radulov, Slava Kozlov and Shane Doan are the top players available. Who would you recommend I pick up?

Also, Luongo is incredible. I am watching the AVs as I type this, and I really wish one of either Theodore or Budaj would take some lessons :/
 
Also, Luongo is incredible. I am watching the AVs as I type this, and I really wish one of either Theodore or Budaj would take some lessons :/


Theodore won one more Vezina than Luongo!

Theodore won one more NHL MVP than Luongo!

alright, I'd still take Luongo.
 
think i came 1 assist short tonight (blame tkachuk) for drawing 4-4 vs Jackal, think we'll end with a 5-4 win from your side. Unless I suddenly outshoot you by miles, havent been keeping track of that.

Was an exciting matchup and a very close battle, even though i feel both are offenses underachieved.
 
bunch of draws and a lot of 5-4 pairings. Nobody really wins or loses ground this week.

Jackal still hasnt made it to the first place yet even though he improves to 8-1.
 
If my math is correct I should go 7-1-2 again this week.

I most certainly will have at least 6 judging by Milan Hejduk's (and really Colorado's) rampage alone.. 3 goals and 3 assists but more importantly a +4 and 3 shots on goal to combine with Dan Cleary's 3 SOG from earlier in the day. That puts me over on SOG by 1 and well enough above in +/-. I was leading all other skater stats coming into today and only padded them by today's output. On the goalies end of things, despite a general bad output, no Osgood games and a fluke 2/3 game by Miller I still might, again if my math is correct, still take GAA. We'll tie on wins and shutouts and WER will most likely take SV%. MEANWHILE, all this was made even more possible due to the fact that WER forgot to move today's active players off the bench! So where the stats were close (+/- and SOG) and easily up for grabs, I suddenly win almost by default.

In short, I get at least 6 points this week and forced 2 ties which isn't exactly staying stagnant since it might bump me up a spot or two in the standings going into next week. Not by much mind you, but small wins do add up in the long run.

Anyway, I really hope Hejduk and the Ave's saved some of that scoring for this upcoming week because besides the shots (which would have come regardless of 9 goals) and the +4, I didn't really need any of that output today!
 
Sabres lose 8-2, then rebound and win 7-1. Craziness.

On a side note, at the Bills game yesterday we were playing Flipcup and needed one player, so I randomly asked this group of guys walking by in they wanted in. One guy finally agreed, so his buddies came and watched. Turns out all 4 were Qeubecois down from CA to watch the Bills game, and they were fucking AWESOME. They really got into the game, and it got to the point where we had a 4 vs. 4 USA vs. Canada Flipcup Battle of the Nations! USA won narrowly 2-1 because the one guy on their team wasn't doing so great, but they were hilarious to watch, standing there screaming in French at each other and screaming "TABARNAK!" at their cups. They had Alexander Keith's with them and shared it with us, and it was fucking good.

End of story.
 
solid story A+, although i dislike keiths :(

I am 8-1 (lost that one week to vineon like 8-1), but i never really have huge lopsided wins, my team is more consistant rather than streaky i guess.

Also great week from Kopitar :P Not so much from Rosivial, who had 0 points and -7 -___-
 
hahaha thats awesome dm

not so hard to party with quebecois. Montreal does have an intense night life and the most strip clubs/population in canada. Besides, tabarnak is just a fantastic word to yell.
 
With most teams 29 or 30 games into the season the standings are starting to take form a bit but it's still early enough in the season to make some bold predictions - what teams do you guys think will make the playoffs? For reference: http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&page=StandingsPage

I'd personally go with these teams in each conference as of right now(in no particular order):

Ottawa
New Jersey
New York Rangers
Philadelphia
Carolina
Atlanta
Montreal
Buffalo

Detroit
San Jose
Vancouver
Dallas
Minnesota
Anaheim
Calgary
Chicago

I am expecting Toronto, Boston, and Pittsburgh(that division is just too rough) to miss in the East and Colorado, St. Louis, and Columbus to miss in the West in spite of all putting up pretty solid seasons this far. I think really all five teams in the Central and the Atlantic are good enough to be playoff teams this year so any of them could get in, and probably would in weaker divisions, but it'll be tough for them to sneak in getting beat up by each other. It might just be my wishful thinking putting the Sabres in, but the way Ryan Miller typically plays in the playoffs they could really make some noise if they get in.

Predicting Anaheim/NYR(assuming they actually find some offense) finals currently, hoping for Detroit/NJ. Preseason pick of Detroit/Carolina is looking interesting after seeing them play the other day, haha.

As an aside, does anyone find the NHL's all-star voting to be as much of a joke as I do? Honestly, is ANYONE surprised that the top 10 or so in each conference are almost exclusively Red Wings and Canadian teams(and occasionally players)? I realize that it's a popularity contest but honestly with various teams having much larger fan backings than others I'm not sure popular vote is really the best way to determine these teams. I mean hell, not only has Hasek been terrible this year, but he's only played fourteen games and he is still outvoting goalies who have been great this year like Giguere, Backstrom, and Nabakov. The combination of name recognition and voting for teams really annoys me - in Detroit's case they didn't even target the bias on the right goalie.
 
Ottawa
New Jersey
Carolina
New York Rangers
Philadelphia
Atlanta
Pittsburgh
Tampa Bay

Rooting hard for TB because I always loved that team and I still think they can do it. Pittsbugh will make it, Montreal I will be very surprised if they do.

Buffalo have definitely been good recently and are knocking to make it. Boston will collapse, Toronto I hope the worst for, Islanders have slowed down but I would be happy for them if they make it somehow, Florida and Washington are out.

95% of the games I watch are between East teams so predicting the west is hard for me considering I do not know the Conference well enough but I will still make predictions for fun :

Detroit
Anaheim
Minnesota
San Jose
Vancouver
Dallas
Chicago
St Louis

My Preseason pick for the finals were Pittsbugh against I dont actually remember who. I guess the chances of that happening are fairly slim, but who knows, right before he was injured, Fleury started playing awesome.

I would really hate a detroit/new jersey final, its been done and I dont particularly like either team, it does sound very probable but I'll go with Ottawa making it again in spite of their recent losing ways, against the Sharks.

But my favorite scenario would be any of Montreal/Ottawa/Pittsburgh/TB/Philly/Buffalo vs a western canadian hockey team or Chicago. All the other eastern teams can lick my balls.

edit : Just learned that Fleury will miss 2 months instead of the early predicted 1 week and a half. OK that sucks and probably would change my standings, I'd probably have Buffalo take 8th.

That is also disastrous for my Fantasy team, who was already in a pretty bad position in the net. I will have to keep Garon or Theodore as my 2nd netminder or juggle them and I dont particularly like either. Theres also Sabourin but I dont trust him at all, the other Quebec goalies (Denis/Thibault/Lalime/Aubin) are all backups.
 
yeah I pretty much give up for fantasy this week, Nylander and Avery are still out but might get one game after missing every last week, Luongo is out all week, and now Holmstrom is hurt. A common link between these players in that none of them actually got injured during a game(or at least all of them finished the game they got 'hurt' in) which is kind of frustrating me a lot. This week and last week both got pretty owned by injuries, beginning to wonder when I'll get a week to see how well this lineup will work.


As an aside, this is made even better by the fact none of them are actually on IR, so I can't replace them. I have four roster slots that are just dead right now which is really not amusing me right now !!
 
Not my week either, all my goalies are getting injured and Souray scores without me knowing it, and expected detroit to shutout oilers tonight and souray gets an assist. Too much points for a guy who didnt play for 3 months :p
 
shane o'brien for best fantasy line ever

3 assists, +3, 12 PIM, 1 shp (im in a league where this counts)

phaneuf too with 5 assists, +5 and 2 PIM

what a game lol.


PS: synre all star voting is obv. a joke. Remember "Vote for Rory" ??? lol
 
Sadly, my favorite (and the state) team, the Coyotes, aren't doing well at all, as they haven't been since they made the idiot Gretzky the coach. Now, I know he's a great player and all, blah blah blah, but he has to be one of the worst coaches out there imo.
 
I hope more of what happened tonight happens for the Isles. I mean, we were going up against the second-lowest scoring club in the league, but we need to climb out of last place in our division.

Also lol 9-6 Flames over the Lightning. My man Prospal went -4. XD
 
I am bummed I missed the Flames/Lightning game, god that is an unbelievable amount of goals :( Was busy with Wings/Oilers and Devils/Bruins at the time.

Synre 6
Rips 1

yeah ok.

"just wait"


week isn't over, in danger of not getting 3 goalie starts, getting blown out in one stat, am likely to lose two of the three tied stats and I'll probably lose PIM since I have anyone still in the lineup who tends to be very good at generating those, and +/- hasn't been a very good stat for me historically even though I took the lead in it in spite of Phaneuf going +3 with 5 assists. I'm expecting this'll end up at like 4-6 which is frustrating considering he evidently isn't even playing anymore.

Sadly, my favorite (and the state) team, the Coyotes, aren't doing well at all, as they haven't been since they made the idiot Gretzky the coach. Now, I know he's a great player and all, blah blah blah, but he has to be one of the worst coaches out there imo.

I'm not sure I would blame Gretzky unless he recently became the GM without my knowing. It's not a coincidence that there's like three people on that team anyone who doesn't follow the team has even heard of, if they wanted to win they should have brought in oh, I don't know, more than zero free agents since the time Tkachuk, Roenick, and Drake were there. It's a young team that will probably suck less in a few years(especially if they actually manage to hold on to Bryzgalov) but they aren't built to win now - not much he can do about that. If anything I'd be worried that he'd get frustrated and leave before he gets a chance to do anything with the team.

Not that I've ever been a big Gretzky fan...

I hope more of what happened tonight happens for the Isles. I mean, we were going up against the second-lowest scoring club in the league, but we need to climb out of last place in our division.

imo devils 1 islanders 2 lets make it happen


seriously i hate every other team in that division so much I can't even describe it, I wish i could make myself hate the central that much
 
fuck eh, the one week i need toskala and the leafs to suck more than usual, this happens....

ugh and backstrom is missing two games cause he is "sick", this is ballsacks.
 
Espn.com said:
After giving up five goals to the Red Wings and six to the Senators, Cam Ward lets in four goals on 21 shots, daring his fantasy owners to outright drop him in favor of an empty goalie slot; hey, at least it won't ruin your other goaltenders' ratios, right?

i loled, poor zerowing

his skaters are good enough now that I wont feel too bad though



The real reason I wanted to post(besides laughing at Backstrom, thanks for giving me a spot start in case Brodeur doesn't play back to back this weekend buddy) was because of this trade though

nhl.com said:
The Anaheim Ducks traded center Andy McDonald to the St. Louis Blues in order to create the cap room they need to bring back Scott Niedermayer.
The Anaheim Ducks created the cap room needed to bring back All-Star defenseman Scott Niedermayer on Friday by sending center Andy McDonald to the St. Louis Blues for center Doug Weight, left wing Michal Birner and a seventh-round pick in the 2008 Entry Draft.


Thoughts, guys? I actually kinda think Anaheim(as usual) got the better end of this since McDonald iirc is on the least year of his contract anyway and could be tricky to resign for either team, and while Weight is in the same boat he's not the type of player you pick up for longevity at this point in his career.

Should be good for both of them fantasywise, as fan it's a bummer because I like(d) Weight but I hate Anaheim oh so very much. Makes it easier to not like the Blues though, lol.
 
I was a fan of Niedermayer until he took that half-a-season retirement.

Now that he is back and it forces a player out of the team in the mid season as a result I cant help but having lost some respect for the guy. I'm not sure how his team-mates feel about this, there must be some mixed reactions although they are probably still glad they get their star defenseman back.

I just hope this kind of thing doesnt become a new trend in the NHL.
 
In other news, what do you guys think about that new hockey league in project to be implemented in Europe to rivalise the NHL? Bob Goodenows, Igor Larionov and many supposed investors being in the project.

Assuming this lifts off, this could finally mean what I always wanted the NHL to be, which is an euro-american league. In Europe, it wouldnt be the NHL, at least at first, but I see it eventually merging with it.

This talent spread could finally mean the final nail in the coffin of some american markets where hockey doesnt and wouldnt ever work.

This could form the equivalent eventually of a national/american league thing similar to the baseball model. Where both league would operate somewhat independantly, with a couple of interleague matches and the winner of both would at the end face off for the Stanley Cup.
 
i think its a really neat idea! And the faster we get teams out of Atlanta and Nashville and Florida the better.

The time zones will create problems though.
 
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