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The Everything NHL Thread
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i would like to thank the vancouver canucks for banning jrrrr from this thread!
The Canucks won by playing Canucks hockey: diving all over the place, looking like a group of emotionless undevoted cowards, talking trash and then bitching out of fights. Talented enough to steal a regular season game but not good enough to win a meaningful series. The only fight they started was a gang attack on one fourth-line player in front of their own bench and they still got punked*. All of their goals were on power plays (including a 5-on-3), the Bruins are a million times better 5-on-5 and they proved that once again. There's no way in hell the Canucks can win a playoff series playing like that against the Bruins, especially since their star goalie is too scared to play in Boston. The Bruins beat the shit out of the Canucks up and down the ice all game and there isn't any debating that. I can't believe you guys are seriously trying to rub this game in my face, did you watch the same game as I did? I seem to remember this same cockiness after game 2 last June...
*I know "hockeys not supposed to be about fighting" but if you're going to start a fight in hockey don't be a bitch about it like they did.
If the Canucks are currently the second best team in hockey after a game like that, then I am going to reiterate my statement that the Bruins are the stone cold lock of the century to repeat as Cup champs. I've never had my opinion of a team go down after a win like the Canucks seem to do every time I see them. To me, the play with 30 seconds left where the Canucks player dove, then pulled the puck out of the crease with his hand and laid on top of it really says it all. Too bad he didn't accidentally take a couple sticks to the face when he was down there.
And no I didn't go to the game I went to the casino instead. Watched the game while winning a miniscule amount of money and getting blasted.
Also the freak injury to Salo was pretty upsetting. Marchand is inexperienced and made a really bad hit. Marchand deserves the suspension he's going to get. Although a very small part of me wants to say "well that's hockey!" like Canucks fans did when Rome cheapshotted Horton in the head in last season's finals. Lucic is probably going to get suspended too for coming off the bench during the Canucks gang attack on Thornton. I personally don't think he should be suspended, but he'll probably get it because people think he got off easy with the Miller incident.
Bruins' record vs. Hawks, Wings, Nucks, Sharks:
1 shootout win
1 shootout loss
2 regulation losses
3/4 games at home
barely above average Western conference team that gets the benefit of playing in the joke Eastern conference. Nothing to see here.
1 shootout win
1 shootout loss
2 regulation losses
3/4 games at home
barely above average Western conference team that gets the benefit of playing in the joke Eastern conference. Nothing to see here.
I can't tell if you're trolling or legitimately don't know that Schneider's hometown is Marblehead, MA.
Luongo has never started a 10 am game since he got injured in one in 2008
fun fact
fun fact
- SO win against the Blackhawks on the road, any team would take that.
- SO loss against the Detroit puckwizards. In last year's playoffs I posted in this thread that the only team that Boston had a chance of losing to in a 7-game series was Detroit and I still think that's true. Detroit matches up so well against Boston that I can't believe they even took that game into OT. Although if I wanted to reach into my bag of homer excuses I would say "Thomas didn't start" but Rask is too good for that kind of treatment. This game was also notable because it was their only loss in November.
- A loss to the Canucks in which the Bruins outscored them 3-0 during 5-on-5 play and ended with a Canuck pulling the puck out of the crease and laying on it. Ok
- A loss to the Sharks during the first 10 games during their championship hangover, a loss so far away that it can basically be described as last season. The Bruins also lost 2 games to Carolina and 2 games to Montreal in that opening string of games, would you say that they're worse than those teams too? Since their 3-7 opening they are 23-5
They're 7-4-1 against the Western Conference. Two of those losses were during the 3-7 opening and one was the shitshow of a game yesterday. What you really should have mentioned was the loss to Dallas which still boggles my mind.
I was aware of that before I posted (NESN commentators rule), but it really doesn't matter because Luongo wasn't going to start this game even if Scheider was from a different planet and the game started at primetime (especially if it was during primetime). Even I give Vigneault more credit than that.
Their strength is 5-on-5. Their power play has been overperforming so far this season tbqh. You might remember the Bruins had an embarrassingly long stretch with no power play goals in last season's playoffs and I think we all remember how that turned out (look at my avatar if you forgot)
And lol if you really think that the final score was an indication of how this game was played.. The better 5-on-5 team will always win the series and the Bruins utterly dominated that. I'm honestly shocked that you guys are happy that they won like that. I would be disappointed and worried if the Bruins had to pull wins like that out of thin air.
Actually one of the biggest reasons why the Canucks lost was because we went 3/31 on the powerplay in the finals, while scoring at a 25% clip in the playoffs and the regular season (which we led with 117 points!). I'd say the powerplay and penalty kill has a great amount of say on how well a team does, and you'd have to be insane to believe otherwise.
I never said that penalty kills weren't important, I said that Power Play Goals is an overrated stat. It says a lot to me that the Canucks are so dependent on the power play that they couldn't win a series without it, and they were humiliated yesterday at even strength. (Maybe that is why they dive so much?)
And take it from this Patriots fan, leading the regular season doesn't mean a whole lot. At least you get a trophy for it in the NHL.
How is it that they get those power plays? ? ? ? I'm sure you must realize the fallacy in pointing out how superior a 5v5 team they are when they took so many (well deserved) penalties due to being outplayed 5v5.
The Bruins took those penalties because they rely on almost purely physical play to shut down the other teams (which is not a bad tactic, don't get me wrong) but when they get outmaneuvered and broken threw, they turn to gray area hits resulting in penalties most of the time.
Hopefully they don't take out their anger on the young and already injured jets.....
The Bruins took those penalties because they rely on almost purely physical play to shut down the other teams (which is not a bad tactic, don't get me wrong) but when they get outmaneuvered and broken threw, they turn to gray area hits resulting in penalties most of the time.
Hopefully they don't take out their anger on the young and already injured jets.....
The first one was a 5-on-3, Thornton slashed and it broke out into a fight. Lucic's idiotic-in-game-terms-but-noble-in-team-terms penalty gave them the extra. The second one was a meh tripping call on Kesler. The last two were on the major from the bad hit by Marchand (end of 2nd and start of 3rd). They deserved the penalties but it's a real stretch to say that they got the penalties because they were "outplayed". Actually it's not just a stretch, it's complete nonsense. Vancouver is not Detroit, they are not nearly fast enough to force teams into consistent mistakes as you imply...where tripping them is the only way to slow them down. The Bruins' defense has utterly dominated the Canucks' offense the last 8 times they've played. My reasoning is no more fallacious than assuming that the Canucks are more capable of winning the cup than the Bruins because of one game where they are outscored 3-0 at even strength. No team who is that dependent on the power play will win a Stanley Cup, ever.
I'm obviously outnumbered as a Bruins fan in this thread, but seriously...I don't understand how anyone could have watched that game and say "yeah the Canucks look like they're ready to win the cup" or "the Bruins suck this year because they lost that game in the end"
Nobody posting here said, or even implied, either of those things. From what it looks like, you talked the original smack saying that the Bruins were going to "fuck the Canucks" on Saturday and then Vancouver ended up winning the game so people called you out on it. They're rubbing it in your face because you were the one who brought it up and are being an unbelievably biased fan about it after the fact. Had your first postgame reply been something like "yeah, things didn't go the Bruins' way, there were some questionable calls, yadda yadda but whatever it's the regular season and we won the bigger games that mattered last year," you wouldn't be getting nearly the backlash you're receiving now. Instead, you came in, talked more smack and then wonder why you're outnumbered as a "Bruins fan." You're outnumbered for being a blind homer, not a Boston fan. Nobody here really gives a fuck which team you root for.
Like your comment above implies, it's one game in the regular season that doesn't mean all that much in the big picture. Get over it and move on.
It's strange that he has a concussion, yet right after the hit he looked angry about the hit and aware that he wasn't okay. That's kinda strange for a concussion, unless he just felt a little loopy at first and the symptoms set in later.
In Salo's case, I have a more positive outlook on the injury because it was a concussion and NOT something in knees, which would've made more sense considering the hit.
In Salo's case, I have a more positive outlook on the injury because it was a concussion and NOT something in knees, which would've made more sense considering the hit.
So Arniel has now been fired. This is kind of surprising, considering if he was going to be fired, it probably would've been 2 months ago. Columbus still hasn't fired the right person though.
Columbus honestly needs many, many personnel changes. The team's been a mess ever since it started up, and none of that has changed the past 10 years. It seems like every time, they manage to find a new way to mess up, be it rushing prospects, making bad trades/ signings, and all. I would go on a rant about the Oilers management, but nobody would care, so I shall end at that.
Surprising, I thought he'd get more considering the injury report. I cringed when I saw that low hit. We'll miss him
Of all the teams that had to discover the secret formula for beating us.... WHY THE HECK DID IT HAVE TO BE THE FREAKING ISLANDERS?! 1-4-1 since lockout baby... Someone needs to find the little islander mole in the locker room, cause this is ridiculous. No team of that suckitude ought to have THAT much luck against us.
Or maybe its just because teams actually, you know, scout other teams?