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Just saw the highlights of the Coyotes embarrassing themselves on the way out the door. Pathetic, humiliating for the league and everyone involved. Mike Smith slashes a Kings player in the back of the kneecap...and the victim gets a penalty. What awful, awful officiating. The game is stopped already, there's no reason the video official can't call down and say "hey, you got that huge call completely 100% wrong" and have them fix it before they drop the face-off. Multiple boarding cheapshots by Coyotes players, etc. The league really needs to make things right here. Even someone like me who is entertained by violence in hockey realizes that this is one-sided BS and the Coyotes are a big group of pussies for doing this in a series that they've already lost.

and for the record I said Mike Smith is a "huge bitch" in this thread more than a month ago and none of you bought it. score another one for jrrrrrrr
 
All I have to say to the coyotes after watching this game is please keep boarding and randomly chopping knees, it gives my team many 5 minute powerplays leading to 2 of our goals. It was an absolute pleasure watching Doan walk off the ice too.
 
jrrrrrrr said:
Just saw the highlights of the Coyotes embarrassing themselves on the way out the door. Pathetic, humiliating for the league and everyone involved. Mike Smith slashes a Kings player in the back of the kneecap...and the victim gets a penalty. What awful, awful officiating. The game is stopped already, there's no reason the video official can't call down and say "hey, you got that huge call completely 100% wrong" and have them fix it before they drop the face-off. Multiple boarding cheapshots by Coyotes players, etc. The league really needs to make things right here. Even someone like me who is entertained by violence in hockey realizes that this is one-sided BS and the Coyotes are a big group of pussies for doing this in a series that they've already lost.

and for the record I said Mike Smith is a "huge bitch" in this thread more than a month ago and none of you bought it. score another one for jrrrrrrr
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Just curious...how exactly do you slash a person in the back of the kneecap? Do you remove everything behind the knee to get to it?
 
Shinryu said:
Why Coyotes why...you make it this far just to get swept by a fucking team worse than you? Get your asses back in the game, you cannot afford to lose in LA now for fuck's sake now >.>
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LOOOOOOOL

Oh wow.

I don't think Doan should be suspended. It looked like he had already lined himself up with Lewis, but Lewis turned his back pretty much a split second before the hit, which Doan couldn't really react to on time.

What Hanzal and Smith did were bitch moves, though.
 
popemobile said:
Kings were the best team in the West entering the playoffs, what are you on
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Not sure if trolling. No one really expected them to go that far, especially with Nashville, St Louis, Chicago, Vancouver, and even Detroit lurking in the foreground. Find me someone who accurately said that LA would sweep St Louis, and beat the Canucks in 5 games and I will show him a liar (Capt Kishimoto does not count).

Heh, looks like LA has the best chance to win the cup this year. As much as I like Kopitar and Richards, the thought of Brown and Doughty throwing a cup over their heads makes me die a little inside (honestly, I would rather have seen Chara lift another cup over his head). Although, NYR might have something to say to that, especially with Lundqvist playing like the way he is right now. Only thing that pulls me away from that is the fact that they've played two 7 game series so far, while LA has played 5 and 4 game series. Wear and tear is a pretty big factor in the playoffs, especially that deep, and LA doesn't seem to be slowing down any time soon.
 
Eraddd said:
Not sure if trolling. No one really expected them to go that far, especially with Nashville, St Louis, Chicago, Vancouver, and even Detroit lurking in the foreground. Find me someone who accurately said that LA would sweep St Louis, and beat the Canucks in 5 games and I will show him a liar (Capt Kishimoto does not count).
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THE_IRON_KENYAN said:
Stanley cup

(4) Pittsburgh Penguins vs (8) Los Angeles Kings
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I dunno if this counts.. And to his credit, TIK has been all about the Kings even before the start of the playoffs.
 
Carl said:
I dunno if this counts.. And to his credit, TIK has been all about the Kings even before the start of the playoffs.
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Heh, TIK was right. I defer to his predictions (although seriously, anyone who said LA would win the cup in the beginning round would be called a lunatic).

On a more serious note:

Source: The #NHL has provided the NHLPA with notice that it wants to terminate and/or modify the CBA. The labor deal expires Sept. 15, 2012

Really don't think it'll go to a lockout but anything is possible. Fehr plays motherfucking hard ball.
 
Eraddd said:
Not sure if trolling. No one really expected them to go that far, especially with Nashville, St Louis, Chicago, Vancouver, and even Detroit lurking in the foreground. Find me someone who accurately said that LA would sweep St Louis, and beat the Canucks in 5 games and I will show him a liar (Capt Kishimoto does not count).
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I said Kings would beat the Canucks, Blues, and Coyotes when each of the series began. I said before the playoffs started that the Kings had a very good shot at winning it all. It's documented in this thread. Granted I didn't think they would dominate to the extent that they did but I still had them winning. Also, I wasn't sold on any of the teams that you mentioned (except for Chicago due to homerism). Am I a prophet or was it just not that difficult to see?

edit: here's your proof

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4184797&postcount=7059

(1) Canucks vs. (8) Kings

I think this matchup will be close. Kings have been very hot lately, but so have the Canucks (albeit for a shorter, more recent period of time). Lack of scoring has hurt the Kings all year, but they've been averaging over 3 goals a game since late February, and are also sporting the second lowest GAA in the league behind St. Louis. Quick is arguably the best goalie in the league, and he was pretty much the only thing keeping LA relevant in the first 2/3rds of the season. The Nux won the Presidents trophy again, but like Boston I think many people overrate them. Plus the Luongo factor. Do the Nux abandon Luongo from his first shaky performance? Do they go with Schneider right away? By the time they figure that out, they might already be down 2 games. Do not be surprised if LA ends up winning this series, or even the entire thing. They are, in my opinion, the most dangerous team in the Western Conference right now, and only marginally less than the Penguins.

Prediction: Kings in 7
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Hanzal gone one game, no supplemental discipline for Doan. I agree with both; this is Hanzal's first transgression, and Doan's wasn't as dirty as it may have looked (Lewis knew he was coming and turned his back, essentially taking one for the team. Probably should've been only 5, no game misconduct). I'm still steamed over the diving they gave Brown, no one in their right mind can watch this and see embellishment:

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Even though I'm not one to mind cheap shots by my own team, that was kinda suspect. And it's those kinds of plays that bog the team down even more, giving your opponent a 2 man advantage isn't good even if it's getting frustrating.

To be clear, I'm more mad and disappointed about Coyotes' sloppy play and lack of scoring and general breaking down more than hating the Kings, though should the Kings win I'll hop over to the East side for rooting for a winner...
 
man kings vs flyers (round one edition) would have been completely amazing, goddamn devils ruining everything.

i can only hope for ny vs la
 
Very disappointed in my Coyotes...won't bother saying much more since I'll just rant into general LA bashing in my disappointment, but I'm rooting for Devils or Rangers in the finals at this point.
 
Can't say I agree with that. Don't think it's a surprise the Kings rolled after Vancouver -- they were obviously the most intimidating of the other 7 teams in the West, and appropriately provided the biggest challenge for LA in spite of the series not being that close partially because of the Daniel Sedin injury -- but there's a reason the teams in the Eastern finals are there and I think it was debatably a tougher conference this year. Almost every Western team other than LA completely imploded this year, and while LA was a big part of that for 3 of the 7 teams. there was a hell of a lot of sloppy play. The Rangers, in particular, haven't been the beneficiary of that and I think especially if they can get ahead to rest their D a little they'll be pretty formidable against LA. The Devils had a bit of a cakewalk round 1, but they managed to beat a Flyers team that everyone seemed to think was just as unbeatable as the Kings now after round 1 and if they manage to beat the Rangers they'll have earned their spot, too (though I can't imagine the Devils beating the Kings either). Would be surprised if the finals don't go at least 6 regardless of opponent and I think the Rangers definitely have the best shot of beating the Kings since the Canucks... which makes sense, given that they were the two top regular season finishers. It could get interesting if the Kings drop Game 1 or Game 1 and 2 on the road, since they've had the benefit of being ahead all playoffs... they've barely been tested so far.

While it's no Kings/Flyers, it'd certainly be an interesting storyline for the Kings to have beaten 4 division winners on the way to the cup. Pity about the Coyotes managing to Mike Smith their way by a team that largely outplayed them, though: it'd be even cooler for the Kings to have beaten the four teams with the most regular season points instead (Vancouver, NYR, St. Louis, Nashville).
 
I don't see how the Kings can lose against either Eastern Conference team. I see NY/NJ going seven games so the Kings will have played 13-14 games while their opponents will have played 20-21 games. And when you factor in how much OT they've played the gap gets wider. Also factor in how much NY is leaning on their top defensive pairing. I saw a stat somewhere about how no team has ever won the cup after playing seven games in their first two series.
 
Didn't Boston have a lot of game 7s last year? If I had to put money on a team to win the cup it would be the Kings, but the Rangers are almost too solid defensively and I'm not sure if LA will be able to break through them like they did the Blues or Phoenix. I'm also not sure if the rangers can break through a almost-as-solid defensively LA team, though more of LA's defense has come from their emerging offensive presence.

Pure 100% speculation......the finals better have a ton of day-time games so I can watch them without losing sleep.
 
Wikey said:
I don't see how the Kings can lose against either Eastern Conference team. I see NY/NJ going seven games so the Kings will have played 13-14 games while their opponents will have played 20-21 games. And when you factor in how much OT they've played the gap gets wider. Also factor in how much NY is leaning on their top defensive pairing. I saw a stat somewhere about how no team has ever won the cup after playing seven games in their first two series.
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Boston played 3 7 game series (Montreal, Tampa Bay and Vancouver) en route to winning the Stanley Cup. I don't see why NY couldn't either.

I believe that your statistic is essentially a correlation and not a causation; playing more games increases the risk of injuries to players, and having even two or three injuries to your roster players pretty much kills a good deal of chance of winning to the cup. Boston, while playing more games, didn't sustain crucial injuries en route to winning the cup; both LA and NY have not either (not trying to jinx anything). The athleticism of most NHL players, not to mention most of their drive and adrenaline fueled by their playoffs, can sustain them for long stretches to June; it's just the injuries sustained in this war of attrition from April to June that have a damning effect.
 
Heysup said:
Didn't Boston have a lot of game 7s last year? If I had to put money on a team to win the cup it would be the Kings, but the Rangers are almost too solid defensively and I'm not sure if LA will be able to break through them like they did the Blues or Phoenix. I'm also not sure if the rangers can break through a almost-as-solid defensively LA team, though more of LA's defense has come from their emerging offensive presence.

Pure 100% speculation......the finals better have a ton of day-time games so I can watch them without losing sleep.
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That's if Rangers can beat the Devils and they have looked tired in this series, let alone against LA in the final. I'm kind of hoping Rangers make it to the final only to get swept so Tortorella's head explodes. But it is lookin like Devils/Kings finals.
 
Also, echoing Justinxxxx's previous sentiments but I'm pretty tired of watching the clutch-grab-interfere-grope style of playing.
 
popemobile said:
finals at this point will just be a formality. neither eastern team has a shot at beating the kings
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hmmm where have I heard this before??? oh yeah right before last years stanley cup final when everyone was saying the same thing about the canucks.

don't get me wrong, the kings will still be favorites, but to say it's just a formality is beyond ignorance.
 
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