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I've never gotten the "runner's high" or whatever you call it, either. I usually just feel like crap after I'm done with a run so I do more interesting forms of cardio to lose weight (mostly racquetball, which I love playing anyway)

I feel like "runner's high" is more of a sense of accomplishment than anything else. I mean, I don't know many people who feel runners high after a crappy race.

However, I don't really remember the middle section of any of my races, so maybe I'm experiencing runner's high at those points in the race and just can't remember them? Or maybe its just the sensation of actually resting and breathing after you've done something long and strenuous?
 
The only "runner's high" I get is having to take MASSIVE dumps like a mile into any of my runs lol. A friend of mine said that running was a "good pain" and that was why she liked doing it, but I guess I'm just not into it since I can't really stand running for more than like 3 miles at a time at the very most. I don't mind doing sprint reps of shorter length with more anaerobic work though, for whatever reason.


All you nigs who lift should check out #lifting on IRC, a channel Delta 2777 made recently. We can discuss lifting and fitness in general in a more live and communal setting and it'll be fun!
 
oh jeez an irc channel D: a place to meet with people i don't fit in with ahhhhh

/me feels socially awkward

also i enjoy running, and i hope to be down to a 6:30 mile by late spring! runnin every day killin my legs one run at a time
 
having to take MASSIVE dumps like a mile into any of my runs lol
This happened to me today, it was awful. I like running a lot (distance; my sprinting ability is probably around that of an average high school girl). I did half marathons the past 2 years, but decided not to this year since i missed about a month of training earlier this summer due to injury. I'm training for a 5k right now, which I haven't done since high school, and I'm getting used to the faster (well, kinda) stuff again. I think I'm gonna do a 5 mile race too because I've never done one of those while I was in racing shape and my best 5 mile time was set during a half marathon.

About the runner's high thing: for me it's usually something that I feel when I start up a new training season and work my mileage up. Sometimes it happens during moderately hard runs too. I never really feel it in races, those are always kinda painful.
 
I've never had the running high, not in the traditional sense. I hear you're supposed to get it on long runs that are not too hard (i.e. you wouldn't get it while racing), towards the end. I feel ok after long runs, but I don't really enjoy them much further than 8 or 9 miles.


My greatest moments in running are after workouts like this:

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but the real mama of speed workouts is the 90 second sprints. I have it all written down in pretty bad handwriting because I didn't want to forget. it was cross country season, october 2010. I had run decently fast the morning of (5 miles at sub-7 pace is what the diary reads, so faster than your average distance day). in the afternoon coach told us the workout was going to be 90 second runs at hard-to-very-hard effort. we were scheduled to do 8 of them. I did the first one in what I thought was a pretty aggressive 65sec 400m pace or so. coach didn't like it. said he wanted it faster. so I ran it faster the second time. it didn't feel good faster, so I "backed off" (I put backed off in quotes because I was running ridiculously fast for my fitness). coach then told me I was bullcrapping, and he didn't like it. something struck a chord there, because of all the things he has ever said to me, I thought he had no right to tell me about how hard I was working. so I ran the last one 100% all out. I covered 660 meters. 660m in 90 seconds leaves me to leg out 140m in 29 seconds to run a sub-2 800 in a race. more likely, I'd have gone it in 25 seconds, which is like 70 seconds per 400 a.k.a. much slower than i had been going. that'd have been good for a 1:55 800m. at the time, I had not yet broken 2:10 (though, it had also been maybe 5 months since I raced at 800m and I was a completely different runner from when I set my at-the-time 800m pr). when coach blew the whistle indicating to stop running, I just collapsed. I remember the pain so clearly. my head had that pounding that you get from interval training, and my legs were very clearly hurting, not just limp or weak. my whole body was heavy. I didn't get up. the coach had to come pick me up off the track and feed me water. when I asked if that was working hard enough, he chuckled and said "almost. but it'll do for today." so just like that, the workout was cut short. I don't think I could have done a 90 second slow jog until maybe an hour later.



I live for those kinds of workouts. the ones that take you so deep into the well that you stop seeing the light at the top. where the pain makes you cry, and you don't get up off the track. i've only had three of them, and the other two were during my 8th grade year, where we were doing 12x400 in 80 seconds both times it happened. but I wasn't fit back then. I haven't been able to muster up the strength to run like I ran that day doing the 90 second runs.


yeah, I enjoy interval training a lot more than steady training, but then my endurance ends up too weak and I run out-of-my-mind 200s and 400s and really slow miles and 5k's.
 
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edit: everything went better than expected
 
there isn't anything funnier than seeing a decently torso build person with some absurdly skinny ass fucking legs
 
^ even worse are those skinny (BAN ME PLEASE)s who do barbell curls on the smith machine... i mean wtf how can you even train your biceps like that :P
 
why its taken me this long to post in the Physical Fitness thread i don't know, I come in here a lot just to read posts in this thread.
I just wanted to Finally post in here. its a great thread and although i do not ask questions specifically, I've picked up some great tips. this thread has also helped me in small, at times funny ways. for example, today my mom brought home pizza and whiles everyone went downstairs to Demolish the pizza. I knew I couldn't afford to eat pizza because, well, its Halloween weekend and if i am going to take in a bunch of unnecessary calories, i'll save it for whatever event i go to. I stayed up in my room trying to resist, it was getting harder and harder until i checked this thread out [stylish Interval's poster in his last post helped].
Anyways, yeah, great thread! wish i could work out with some of you really, workout buddies are always great :)


PS:i would appreciate it if no one asked me to post my workouts. Its not even something i enjoy doing in real life, which sucks because i have to do it so often, especially with people who haven't seen me in a while.
really i just go to the gym as many times as i can every week[i put this above all else because its the foundation, when it comes down to it, you just have to get up and go get your workout in], i do a lot of simple stuff and what i do constantly changes. when it comes to doing research, etc etc, i do that more with my diet, I try to focus more on what i eat/drink. Dont take this the wrong way though, i MAKE SURE whatever i do in the gym is right for my goals.
 
This thread is awesome! I didn't read all 45 pages, but the ones I did read have great information on it!

I'm currently going to school for Exercise Science, and I love all my classes because physical fitness has always been a big part of my life, so joining the Army helped play into that. But now I'm deployed (don't worry this all leads to somewhere) so my time is more restrained than my normal two hour work out sessions, and I discovered something today while I've been on shift....

A workout that takes a whole 30 minutes to due. This includes stretching, warm up, the workout, cool down and final stretches, and if I run fast enough my post work out snack :D

Its called Tabata.

You do your stretches, a quick warm up run (I run around our FoB), than kick into the Tabata. Which is 8 "sets" of 20 second reps. And than a 10 sec rest after each "rep". I have picked 4 different excercises to use during my Tabata, and you 2 20s sets of each workout, alternating them.



As for a runners high, we run a lot in the Army, lol, and I only really experience it after 5+ miles. I do a lot of 10k runs and I know at the end of them, seeing that finish line I will get a new feeling in me. So I think it is the accomplishment of finsihing the run, compared to the actual run itself.
 
posting quickly to say HOLY CRAP EXERCISE SCIENCE THAT LOOKS SO FUN :D :D :D

will edit soon or maybe tomorrow, not sure

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nina bro, nice to see you around! good discipline on the pizza thing man, i wish i had that in me. my best discipline comes from lifting low (much to tof's chagrin i hope! :P :P) but i'm working on food. it's tough sometimes but it's a great feeling when you get through it! and good work, always good to lift with a purpose. hope to see you in this thread some more man!



also can't tell if pope is serious....

edit: oh, thought you were making fun of those high metabolism kids
 
yep, nothing wrong with that, in fact that's the impression i got when i first read your post yesterday Popemobile. there's also nothing wrong with being on a very strict diet, it just really, REALLY sucks to maintain one[the results are fabulous though ;)].
I'm not in a weight loss phase, I've moved into the "building muscle" phase so my diet isn't strict at all as well, at least not as strict as it used to be. The impression i was hoping my post would give off was that i didn't want to stack on the calories, which is perhaps the easiest thing to do in the world.
I may not be on a strict diet anymore, but i'm still in that mind state. I most definitely will not eat just anything during the day when i know its Halloween weekend, come night time, i am going out with friends and there will be much eating/drinking[i know you like to drink popemobile, also nothing really wrong with that..........just be careful i suppose]. Calories stack up faster than most people think at the end of the day. on the most basic level, the body works one way and that is; it takes what it needs to do its business that day, and all the "extras" get stored, which isn't something you really want unless you want to get big[even if you are trying to go for the "bulk" kind of big, you're not going to eat 6,000 cals a day of just anything]
but i'm sure you already knew all of this, most if not all of you.

PS: by the way, i really like your avatar/location combo
 
What's the best way to build muscle mass quickly? I'm a relatively skinny individual, at 5'8" and 145 lbs. I've been going to the gym on and off for about a year or so, but I don't really see much improvement. My main goals involve getting wider shoulders / upper torso and bigger arms. But for some reason, I seem to have hit a plateau after a moderate level of improvement... Advice? I need some motivation to go back to the gym again...
 
yep, nothing wrong with that, in fact that's the impression i got when i first read your post yesterday Popemobile. there's also nothing wrong with being on a very strict diet, it just really, REALLY sucks to maintain one[the results are fabulous though ;)].

I've done strict diets before, a lot stricter than what I'm currently doing. I ate so much chicken and veggies that I was growing feathers and a beak. Now, I can get away with being much more relaxed on my food choice, simply because my caloric maintenance levels are much higher than they used to be. Like I can eat 3000+ calories a day and still lose weight, while back then it was more like 2200-2300. And that's almost an entirely a factor of just having more muscle now than back then.

I'm not in a weight loss phase, I've moved into the "building muscle" phase so my diet isn't strict at all as well, at least not as strict as it used to be. The impression i was hoping my post would give off was that i didn't want to stack on the calories, which is perhaps the easiest thing to do in the world.
I may not be on a strict diet anymore, but i'm still in that mind state.

I totally understand, although I've never really been much of a "clean bulker", which is why I put on more fat than I could during these phases. It doesn't really bother me though because my own recent past experiences have shown me that I can lose fat pretty easily

I most definitely will not eat just anything during the day when i know its Halloween weekend, come night time, i am going out with friends and there will be much eating/drinking[i know you like to drink popemobile, also nothing really wrong with that..........just be careful i suppose].

Managed just fine in the past, although I will say that lately I've been drinking more than I usually do. No overly negative side-effects yet, though.

Calories stack up faster than most people think at the end of the day. on the most basic level, the body works one way and that is; it takes what it needs to do its business that day, and all the "extras" get stored, which isn't something you really want unless you want to get big[even if you are trying to go for the "bulk" kind of big, you're not going to eat 6,000 cals a day of just anything]

Honestly I don't even worry about calories when I'm on a bulk (at least not in the "I hope I don't eat too many calories" sense). I just eat eat eat. Probably over 4000 calories, but 6000 is still a little bit out of reach as far as being anywhere useful for me to eat that much.

After a certain point over maintenance level, calories will be stored at a higher rate than your body can optimally use to build muscle. The general consensus is 500 calories over maintenance is what you should shoot for on a bulk if you're looking to avoid too much excess fat. But if you give your body enough stimulus through lifting heavy things, you can eat a good deal over your maintenance level and still have some of the calories put towards building muscle rather than being stored as fat.

but i'm sure you already knew all of this, most if not all of you.

well, I've done quite a bit of research on this subject :P

PS: by the way, i really like your avatar/location combo

I don't D:

What's the best way to build muscle mass quickly? I'm a relatively skinny individual, at 5'8" and 145 lbs. I've been going to the gym on and off for about a year or so, but I don't really see much improvement. My main goals involve getting wider shoulders / upper torso and bigger arms. But for some reason, I seem to have hit a plateau after a moderate level of improvement... Advice? I need some motivation to go back to the gym again...

Heavy compound lifts, eat a ton of food/protein, and I guess do some bicep curls too if arms are really a big deal for you. But focus on the heavy compound lifts like squat, deadlift, presses, rows and pullups.

and literally eat a ton. milk milk milk milk milk
 
only problem i have with drinking is the hidden calories - say, i go on a night out and have about 8 pints. that's over 1600 calories. then the alcohol in my system will cause me to crave fat so i'll end up having a kebab or fish and chips or something and before I know it I've had a day's worth of calories in one night; the vast majority of them being empty calories.

there's also the fact that alcohol slows down your metabolism for a few days after the night out so my body won't burn away the excess calories/stored fat as effectively as it normally would.

also, four weeks of rest today and my arm is still a bit gammy. Please heal!

oh hey Jesus
 
The thing with alcohol is that it's terrible for your body overall but you really can't avoid it in social situations.
I try to avoid it as much as I can but sometimes you have to (when somebody buys shots for the whole table for example). From my experience, the best excuse not to drink is to always be the one that drives. Also, the alcohol takes about one or two days to get out of your system so I only drink on saturdays since sunday is a rest day and on monday i have cardio (no intense lifting). plan a recovery day after a heavy drinking night because of hangovers...etc..

if you are hangover, here is my cure:

Water (some pedialyte is good as well for your 'electrolytes')
B6
B12
Time

I take 1 b6 1 b12 BEFORE drinking and one after drinking. I drink a ton of water as well, before and after.


Hangovers are mainly caused by severe dehydration and a severe lack of B6 vitamins.

The b12 is for energy. (since we all feel lazy and drained anyways the day after)

a solid breakfast is a good idea too.
 
times when i consider on sippin' on a good ol' beverage is when im in a high-state of mind and body. when im experiencing euphoric sensations i get the urge to go further beyond the concious and sober, so a bit of cardio simply calms the afterthoughts of any wrong doing for my fitness/physical appearence.
 
What's the best way to build muscle mass quickly? I'm a relatively skinny individual, at 5'8" and 145 lbs. I've been going to the gym on and off for about a year or so, but I don't really see much improvement. My main goals involve getting wider shoulders / upper torso and bigger arms. But for some reason, I seem to have hit a plateau after a moderate level of improvement... Advice? I need some motivation to go back to the gym again...

If you're looking for size and not strength then you will benefit from smaller workouts that are around the 12+ rep area. Of course this means you will have to go smaller in weight but increases the reps increases muscle growth. Squats, Bench Press, Deadlift and Overhead press are always the best, but your workout plan will have to look SOMETHING like this

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/Layne_Norton's_Power/Hypertrophy_Routine

You want to get bigger so those compound lifts I mentioned won't help a lot alone. Also increase your calories (slowly) by 500. Have an extra plate for dinner. Try to eat peanut butter with the most food you can. A lot of shit you can do really.
 
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