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NOC The Mafia Invitational Redux Game Thread - GAME OVER
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AG what happened to your sr on Knights ?
also what happened to this
Still not much of his stuff has stuck in my head, but more now. I'm reconsidering it and feel that he's not likely enough scum to vote him, seems more attempting to contribute even though I don't like post spam that much.
Asek flipped red and I started approaching the evidence via Asek's associations. This led me to look closer at Asek vs Hitmon and see that Hitmon kept flipflopping his stance on Asek while using choice language (at least three instances of "screw you" variants and one instance of apologizing for saying Light is a better player than Asek) in his posts/votes against Asek. Combining that with the previous suspicion that Asek could possibly bus and considering the potential motive of being forced to solo carry in D1 and then watching a sub blow off the game, and what seemed at first glance to be unlikely seems plausible, leading to a full solve.
Remember when FH was playing this game
Former Hope I owe you an eye twitch gif for liking that post. Mind checking in for a few minutes (or hours)?
Okay then. There's feuding going on and reading this stuff is annoying, so let me go back to the start and figure out where I stand
Asek ISO pt.2
Starts the game off throwing an RVS vote on leet. It's at this point I actually remember doing this ISO earlier and coming to the idea of leet and asek being scum buddies. Still, at least in my current head space the thought of scum RVSing each other comes off as distant but possible
page 19 aka aseks dead period
KOC has weird pings of Asek, logical pings. But pings.
Asek then does the big wall of fluff in which of the people still alive, his really only wolf call is on KOC.
1. Asek keeps pushing KOC claiming gas and stuff
2. He reads moody positively, well, null, but then he puts them in the same pile as metal sonic who he says he town leans
"-Asek #556 looks spectacular to me, tbh. It's what I like to see in a reads post. Big town read on him." - Leet
still weird even if explained
It's also at this point where I call out MoodyCloud and KnightsofCydonia for being lame and not reading my post about not being avaliable most of the hours since day started so now I've had to take out time from trying to analyze to read their comments showing their lack of reading comprehension to my earlier comment. Anyways, back to analysis
More stuff I've already ISO'd. but asek defends the leet slot.
But ugh, he actually follows up and goes so far as to vote empoof. Is this really a bus?
Then leet does a break down of Aseks post while both calling him out for fluff but also saying he has a lot of good points. Leet concludes that aske is town out of gut.
Softly defends LW here
end of page 43. Leet does a weird progression post for why he TR asek and then scum read him. Then says outloud he did a 180 on asek. At this point... I'm remembering why I thought Asek+Leet might be a scum team. These d1 interactions are awful.
D2
The nothing day. Asek votes leet, leet votes asek. Neither really try to say why.
Page 65
AG leans scum on Asek. So buss vs buss? idk.
and then LW and AG hammer Asek with AG following LW.
Those end the day of aseks.
Results
KOC - I think he's probably lock town to me
Moody - you moved up in townyness
LW - just a smidge from the day 3 interactions
Leet - I think I had been gut TRing you before? But yeah, ISOing asek your interactions with him were very poor day 1, and day 2/3 did little to improve them
AG - Idk, I half feel I have confirmation bias but yeah, feels like asek and ag tried to bus each other. Then AG also says he's going to ISO asek but unless I missed it, he never does.
So yeah.... oog. I'm really tired. My last 48 hours have been working morning shift, spending the night doing Agape/AG's pathfinder campaign and into another morning session so I'm just super wiped. Luckily I have tomorrow off so I can spend more time catching up on teh game because honestly right now I don't feel like critical thinking and analyzing are my brains strong suit right now.
Asek ISO pt.2
Starts the game off throwing an RVS vote on leet. It's at this point I actually remember doing this ISO earlier and coming to the idea of leet and asek being scum buddies. Still, at least in my current head space the thought of scum RVSing each other comes off as distant but possible
page 19 aka aseks dead period
KOC has weird pings of Asek, logical pings. But pings.
but then this. Does scum KOC actually push for Asek to be first lynched here? ngl I don't think so.
Asek then does the big wall of fluff in which of the people still alive, his really only wolf call is on KOC.
Only a few things stick out to me here
1. Asek keeps pushing KOC claiming gas and stuff
2. He reads moody positively, well, null, but then he puts them in the same pile as metal sonic who he says he town leans
Rule of 3 here says that leet is likely scum (aka when scum tend to do this, it's fairly common for them to put 1 scum in a threesome)
Some of the random stuff that made me SR them in the first place. But at this point I do think this play was scum asek going "I don't think anyone is buying this KOC push so I'm going to push someone else" which again makes KOC seem town
"-Asek #556 looks spectacular to me, tbh. It's what I like to see in a reads post. Big town read on him." - Leet
still weird even if explained
KOC instantly votes Asek after texas asks. This is either next level scum bussing or KOC is town.
It's also at this point where I call out MoodyCloud and KnightsofCydonia for being lame and not reading my post about not being avaliable most of the hours since day started so now I've had to take out time from trying to analyze to read their comments showing their lack of reading comprehension to my earlier comment. Anyways, back to analysis
More stuff I've already ISO'd. but asek defends the leet slot.
Pushes empoof/AG here for behavior (and lol, I said I would do analysis even though here I'm just stating events. That said, this particular push from him. Maybe a bus? idk, I actually feel from this one post that he's genuinely pushing AG here but my current dislike of his play makes me honestly just want to read this as a well played buss.
But ugh, he actually follows up and goes so far as to vote empoof. Is this really a bus?
Then leet does a break down of Aseks post while both calling him out for fluff but also saying he has a lot of good points. Leet concludes that aske is town out of gut.
How to: read this post
Softly defends LW here
end of page 43. Leet does a weird progression post for why he TR asek and then scum read him. Then says outloud he did a 180 on asek. At this point... I'm remembering why I thought Asek+Leet might be a scum team. These d1 interactions are awful.
Hmm...D1 analysis. Would Proph really be an all town wagon? Like, of the 3 I'm fairly certain KOC is town, limbo with moody and scum lean DLE. Asek also parks his vote on leet....
D2
The nothing day. Asek votes leet, leet votes asek. Neither really try to say why.
Another good moody post vs asek
Page 65
AG leans scum on Asek. So buss vs buss? idk.
Actually yeah. On 2nd read. This is a pretty shallow read and feels more like it came from a buss than something else.
LW posts his take on Asek. This read is better than AGs at least but incorperating the yeti/me thoughts into there is ew.
I like this
Well this happened. So how do you see DLE getting to MS to l-1 now?
AG defends asek here. Which is weird af given that he leaned scum him earlier.
LW answers asek here. I do like this post.
and then LW and AG hammer Asek with AG following LW.
Those end the day of aseks.
Results
KOC - I think he's probably lock town to me
Moody - you moved up in townyness
LW - just a smidge from the day 3 interactions
Leet - I think I had been gut TRing you before? But yeah, ISOing asek your interactions with him were very poor day 1, and day 2/3 did little to improve them
AG - Idk, I half feel I have confirmation bias but yeah, feels like asek and ag tried to bus each other. Then AG also says he's going to ISO asek but unless I missed it, he never does.
So yeah.... oog. I'm really tired. My last 48 hours have been working morning shift, spending the night doing Agape/AG's pathfinder campaign and into another morning session so I'm just super wiped. Luckily I have tomorrow off so I can spend more time catching up on teh game because honestly right now I don't feel like critical thinking and analyzing are my brains strong suit right now.
Call me out Former, but the thread gets lonely with these long silences.
Wow you weren't kidding about this thread being quiet and dead for periods of time
Currently read through first 42 pages. After that i still have isos to do to cement reads. Im working on it moody
4 people have now agreed that Mason should claim today if they exist(yes AG the point of doing it today is so that scum can't safely false claim it at lylo, there not being a 3rd one is considered in this plan).
This leaves MoodyCloud Former Hope and 3P1K without agreeing with the plan of having the mason claim. Again I want this resolved as quickly as possible and we're running out of time. Please weigh in now, trust me this is important.
That can't be a trap card, we lynched Asek yesterday!
Thoughts on the lynch, perhaps?
We should lynch scum, after mason is clear up.
You're neglecting the possibility that final mason, if they exist, feels claiming to be a bad idea and that only they can make that decision.
Im currently not entirely caught up; however your logic for it checks out with me just by looking at the current living RL; Im fine with the theoretical third mason claiming now if it were to exist.
In which if the mason wishes to take that angle optimal play would be to play through today and tommorow's lylo without claiming. If my understanding of the situation is accurate is no excuse for a mason to claim tommorow (unless we lynch scum today); implying a town lynch today it should either be claiming today or the day after the next lylo.
ngl, as I actually read day 4 (at this point, end of page 79) this post strikes me as very "thou protest too much"-y
Okay. So basically just most of this day has been a clown feista of KOC/Moody/Leet where people are delving into convoluted and hard to follow logic.
Followed by LW pushing for a possible last mason to claim
Followed by AG just being a floppy and non persuasive fish
Followed by the newest episode of "Where's the DLE slot" in which we all wonder if EPIK will post reads or not.
Adjusting from the day's prior, I think my current game solve is: Lynch AG today,
if town: lynch leet (aka as much as I think Asek and Leet feel like they are buddying and that AG and Asek buddying is weird and sketch, I SR AG individually the most at this point)
if scum: Lynch epik unless he provides more context
and then probably the final scum for me would be (Leet/Epik) or hmm... Moody or LW? I think again KOC is lock town and I don't particularly feel like Moody is scum so I guess my actual solve is AG -> EPik/Leet -> other one -> LW? But I think AG/Epik/Leet solves the game anyways.
Followed by LW pushing for a possible last mason to claim
Followed by AG just being a floppy and non persuasive fish
Followed by the newest episode of "Where's the DLE slot" in which we all wonder if EPIK will post reads or not.
Adjusting from the day's prior, I think my current game solve is: Lynch AG today,
if town: lynch leet (aka as much as I think Asek and Leet feel like they are buddying and that AG and Asek buddying is weird and sketch, I SR AG individually the most at this point)
if scum: Lynch epik unless he provides more context
and then probably the final scum for me would be (Leet/Epik) or hmm... Moody or LW? I think again KOC is lock town and I don't particularly feel like Moody is scum so I guess my actual solve is AG -> EPik/Leet -> other one -> LW? But I think AG/Epik/Leet solves the game anyways.
Former, it's "doth protest to much, methinks"
Anyway, I'm fairly sure that waiting for a mason to claim, especially if said mason either doesn't exist or thinks it's a very bad idea to claim, is an exercise in futility.
Anyway, I'm fairly sure that waiting for a mason to claim, especially if said mason either doesn't exist or thinks it's a very bad idea to claim, is an exercise in futility.
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