I'll say this again:You didn't get it. I was talking about Double Dance (NP&Agility on the same set), in which case you rely on Boltbeam coverage, which DOES suck.
Sure, it's not the best super effective coverage, but hitting everything but six fully evolved Pokemon for neutral damage is pretty much the definition of not sucking. And with Thundurus-T's sheer power, hitting things super effective isn't even necessary half of the time.Unless you're running into teams with two or more of Magnezone/Rotom-F/Rotom-H/Lanturn/Shedinja/Thick Fat Mamoswine (forgot this one), BoltBeam doesn't suck.
Thunder 2HKOs Ferro, nice try though. And who would try sweeping when they still have a healthy Chansey?And if you think Thunder lets you get past Ferro, you're dreaming; Gyro Ball 3HKOs, you need some extreme parahax to kill it.
If they switch into a Chansey that walls you, you're switching out and you've wasted time by subbing.
Except that while you NP, Jirachi will use Body slam to break the sub, and if you didn't have a sub, say GL to that 60% paralysis rate. oh, and btw Earthduster, +6 tbolt does 98% min to Ferro, so either you got pretty lucky surviving, or SR wasn't on your field..I can see a Jirachi getting murked by +2 LO Thunder, but again, Sub doesn't do jack in that situation..
I'm sorry, this is just wrong. You obviously haven't read any of the previous discussion on the topic. You're reading completely out of context.Thunder 2HKOs Ferro, nice try though. And who would try sweeping when they still have a healthy Chansey?
You NP on the switch, and murk it with +2 Thunder. And I wasn't even advocating Thundurus here...Except that while you NP, Jirachi will use Body slam to break the sub, and if you didn't have a sub, say GL to that 60% paralysis rate. oh, and btw Earthduster, +6 tbolt does 98% min to Ferro, so either you got pretty lucky surviving, or SR wasn't on your field..
I use rash for that extra power with Thunder, and hitting 450 Spe is good, but I might use Naive if I see more Scarfers like Terrakion or Latios. * I only see Choice specs/Band*Naive > Rash, but that's a good Scarf set.
Nearly every Mence I have seen is DDance Moxie, which is why I pair my Thundurus T with Scizor.Generally speaking, there's really no point in running a Scarf Thundurus if not for the 101 base speed. It's there to outrun positive natured base 100s, like Mence, which is a big threat otherwise.
All the more reason to run Naive, then, so you can outpace those Mence at +1 SpeedNearly every Mence I have seen is DDance Moxie, which is why I pair my Thundurus T with Scizor.
Naive Thundurus wouldn't outspeed Scarf Terrakion or Latios. You're responding to all the wrong stuff.I use rash for that extra power with Thunder, and hitting 450 Spe is good, but I might use Naive if I see more Scarfers like Terrakion or Latios. * I only see Choice specs/Band*
Oh that set looks amazing, I love that spread.Will definitely give this thing a try and post results later.Thanks for sharing.Here's a little gem I've been using the last couple days.
Thundurus-T @ Leftovers
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 220 Def / 36 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Substitute
- Thunder / Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power Ice / Focus Blast
So I was experimenting with Thundurus-T a bit, and found that Substitute + Nasty Plot was one of his best sets. I also found that because its Special Attack was already as naturally high as it was, I could afford to invest some EVs from Special Attack into a defense stat. Uninvested, Timid Thundurus-T actually manages to best 252 SpA Jolteon in terms of Special attack stat points, so I simply invested a significant amount of EVs from SpA towards Defense. Now, the defense EVs allows Thundurus-T’s Substitutes to survive SpD Jirachi’s Body Slam and Ferrothorn’ Gyro Ball 100% of the time, giving it time to set up and protect itself from revenge killing and status (damn Body Slam).
The 36 SpA EVs simply ensure an OHKO on 4/0 Latios with +2 Hidden Power Ice after Stealth Rock damage, but this obviously isn’t applicable if Thundurus-T isn’t running it. You don’t even have to operate with a boost or behind a Substitute; if you need to, you can still blast opponents off in the air immediately, though it lacks the bite of sets that invest significantly in SpA.
Impractical, but it was fun experience.