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tips on running?

balddemon said:
Well in that case, is 20-30 miles/week too low for a junior in high school who ran CC soph and jr year and am now running distance in track?
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Do you think you could go higher? Do you think it would help your performance to do more? Generally speaking, it would help to do more. Getting to 40 would be great. Go for 50 if it feels right. If not, drop back down.

Experiment!

We're not giving you the answers, you have to find them! Beautiful thing about running, it's never too late to fix your methods. It's a life-long sport and you have the rest of your career to perfect it!
 
Here's a few other things I think I forgot to include:

1) If you get tired, move your arms faster and pick up the pace. Sounds dumb I know, but it works.
2) In a race, you should always be aiming to pass people. Never look behind you, always look forward to the next guy you're trying to catch. If there's no one there, look ahead and towards the finish.

And yes, the more you run, the more addicting it gets. Being injured was one of the periods of my life. Those two months without running drove me crazy!
 
There are plenty of body movements you can do (if you orient right) that can propel you faster then running, but you look retarded doing them (trust me me and old friends did them through the mall all the time lmao).

The best advice I can give you is (even if it hurts) breathe in only through your nose and out through your mouth. Getting into a repition with this is the best way to get optimal oxygen levels to ALL parts of the body. Normally people just breathe in through their mouth like dogs and use their nose to sniff things but that pretty much prevents 20-30% of oxygen going to your limbs and other vital areas (head? (Yes Please - oh sorry)).
 
#1 NUMBER ONE TIP ON RUNNING
DONT GO TO, a GAMING SITE for this type of info. find another forum that is SPORTS-SPECIFIC and you will get much better advice from people who actually know what they are talking about.
I'm not saying that everyone here hasn't given good info, but a specific site would give better info form people who have spent most of their life training to be the best.
 
Lee said:
Dude, I would have laughed at that 2 years ago, but now my knee is riddled with steroids and I'm expecting a stem cell operation next month. All the running I've done in the past has eroded my knee to the point where walking to the shop is a mammoth task. I have no regrets though, because I loved every minute I spent running. I'd advise you to know your limits though, and don't be afraid to have the occassional week off.
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Oh shit, you too? =/ My knee problems are compounded by all the Taekwondo I did as well.

Anyways, pacing, practise, and lots of water. Keep hydrated, and practise, and your times will improve.
 
Saturos said:
#1 NUMBER ONE TIP ON RUNNING
DONT GO TO, a GAMING SITE for this type of info. find another forum that is SPORTS-SPECIFIC and you will get much better advice from people who actually know what they are talking about.
I'm not saying that everyone here hasn't given good info, but a specific site would give better info form people who have spent most of their life training to be the best.
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Just because this is a pokemon related forum doesn't mean the people here don't know or excel at other things. Someone frequenting these boards could be just as knowledgeable, if not more so, than Joe Somebody over at a running forum who thinks he knows everything because he's got an account. Example: venture on down to Stark Mountain's RMT sub forum. Some people that rate teams there give bad advice but think they're helping because hey they've played a game of pokemon or two. They have an account here, their posts should be the answer you're looking for! And who says this is the only forum he's asked at.. perhaps he's posted in a few different places for more sources.

My point is.. obviously when asking for advice on ANYTHING on the internet you have to take it with a grain of salt but it's usually pretty obvious that you're getting decent results when people are agreeing or saying the same things. As a former runner, this topic has legitimately good advice and I don't think you'll get anything better anywhere else. There's even three people posting in this topic with references to running in their username!

Sorry, that bugged the shit out of me even though he edited his post to try to sound less insulting.
 
Oh shit, you too? =/
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Yeah man. :( Jumpers Knee to be exact. I'd like to sincerely warn people about this one. I thought I was invincible but it can happen to anyone who trains too hard. It has quite literally put my life on hold.

Discovery Health said:
The most common activity that causes jumper's knee is continuous jumping or running. Any repetitive motion such as aerobics, jogging, walking or bicycling may lead to jumper's knee. This condition is often one of the most painful overuse injuries for recreational athletes.
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I understand that the best ways to avoid it are to wear the correct shoes, stretch before and after exercise and just to generally avoid pushing yourself too hard.

My doctor seems confident he can repair it with stem cell treatment...the gist I'm getting is he'll take the healthy cells out of my arm and put them in my knee in place of the damaged cells. I hope everything goes well with your knee too, vampdude34.

I'm not saying that everyone here hasn't given good info, but a specific site would give better info form people who have spent most of their life training to be the best.
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I know I've spent most my life "training to be the best," and from what I can see, the same can be said for many other posters in this thread.

EDIT: Carl said it better.
 
Lee said:
, I would have laughed at that 2 years ago, but now my knee is riddled with steroids and I'm expecting a stem cell operation next month. All the running I've done in the past has eroded my knee to the point where walking to the shop is a mammoth task. I have no regrets though, because I loved every minute I spent running. I'd advise you to know your limits though, and don't be afraid to have the occassional week off.
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I just thought I'd note that, as great as running is, you do have to take it in moderation. I've seen so many competitive runners with knee and back problems later on in life not to mention the various college runners getting in 70-100 miles a week and walking around like zombies. I honestly wouldn't do much more than 50 miles a week on a regular basis seeing as most people can't handle the stress of heavier miles as it generally only ends up hurting them later on. With that said, I'm still training hard and having fun. Like all good things, you just have to remember to keep running in moderation.
 
Yea, I have some pretty bad and rather untreatable stress fractures on both my Patellas, and a rather mild (read: still shitty) case of ligament inflammation in both knees :(

Treatment so far has been braces and a general lack of activity, but dammit it's pretty much impossible to like, NOT walk at all >_<. I can jog without any real discomfort though, and although my doc hates me for it, I can manage a light game of Baseball without too much trouble. Blahblahblah listen to the doctor to heal aside, he says that as long as I don't overdo it, I'll heal just fine.
 
I need help. I'm running in a track meet three weeks from now, and I need to run a 5-flat mile, at the least to win. Currently I run a 6:00, but that's with a slightly injured ankle and without my track shoes, and wearing jeans (I forgot to dress out for PE). I figure I could get a 5:30 if I was ready+stretched. Should I be running 4 miles a day, or should i rest up the ankle? I'm scared of being out of shape for the meet.
 
In a long race it is about pace, pace meaning a consistent repitition (no slowing down or going fast, just a steady jog so you can maintain systems) breathe properly to get oxygen to your body and drink water but when you intake water spit most of it out and only let it wet your throat otherwise the sloshing in your stomach will give you cramps early on.

In a short race, it is about speed and a specific fast repitition that will overtake someone elses badly timed steps and dog breathing.
 
Carl said:
Just because this is a pokemon related forum doesn't mean the people here don't know or excel at other things. Someone frequenting these boards could be just as knowledgeable, if not more so, than Joe Somebody over at a running forum who thinks he knows everything because he's got an account. Example: venture on down to Stark Mountain's RMT sub forum. Some people that rate teams there give bad advice but think they're helping because hey they've played a game of pokemon or two. They have an account here, their posts should be the answer you're looking for! And who says this is the only forum he's asked at.. perhaps he's posted in a few different places for more sources.

My point is.. obviously when asking for advice on ANYTHING on the internet you have to take it with a grain of salt but it's usually pretty obvious that you're getting decent results when people are agreeing or saying the same things. As a former runner, this topic has legitimately good advice and I don't think you'll get anything better anywhere else. There's even three people posting in this topic with references to running in their username!

Sorry, that bugged the shit out of me even though he edited his post to try to sound less insulting.
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I still think that an ENTIRE community for RUNNING ONLY would give better advice than just some gamers with running as a part time.
 
Hmmmm, I'll have to disagree with the advice to stretch before running, specifically static stretching. But first I should probably give my running background. I run both track and cross-country in high school, and my XC 5k PR is 17:02, track mile pr is 4:55, and 2-mile pr is 10:40. Our team also took 4th in state for XC Washington 3A about a year ago.

My coach has always warned against static stretching, and I have done some research myself. The fact is, if you are simply stretching and then running, you have put stress on ligaments that weren't ready for it. I recommend dynamic warmups like skipping or light jogging before full-on running, and I suppose you could static stretch but ONLY after your legs are sufficiently warmed up. Stretching when your muscles are "cold" creates micro-tears in your muscles that may eventually lead to injury.

Overall, a warmup is albeit essential before you run, but dynamic/moving warmups should come before stretching. Just thought I'd give my opinion and good luck! ;D
 
I don't take running too seriously, I mean I run often but I mainly do it to stay in shape for soccer but from my personal experience I definitely want to emphasize dynamic stretching over static stretching. I find that I perform better and rarely injure myself after dynamic stretching (granted most injuries on the soccer field have some assistance from another person).
 
There is evidence that a recently stretched muscle cannot reach the same level of power as an unstretched one. The logic goes something like this: stretching a muscle causes it to deform plastically (the muscle will not return to its original length after the load is removed), and this impacts on a muscle's ability to contract with force and speed. This might be something to keep in mind if you choose to stretch right before a race.

husk said:
I definitely want to emphasize dynamic stretching over static stretching.
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Dynamic stretching has been shown to be ineffective at warming a muscle and you run a high risk of creating a tear in a muscle or inducing inflammation in a tendon.

I would say that a runner has very little need for stretching, muscles can be warmed up much more effectively with dynamic movement, and muscle soreness is better prevented by massage.

If you must stretch it's best to when a bit colder, such as after a cool down from a race or before you go to bed. A static stretch, held for around a minute with an steady increase in intensity, with 2-3 reps works well.
Ben
 
Probably my only advice to you is to stay mentally strong. All the preparation and hard work will basically go to waste if you are not mentally fit. In the mile or any long distance event, don't listen to your body, because your body gets easily tired and may manipulate your mind. Your mental ability will push you to overcome the beginning pain and you will run even faster. Just have faith lol.
 
Ambitions said:
Well running is a very violent moment for your entire body, and can lead to poor joints later in life and can really really mess up your knee's. So if I where you, I would ride a bike. I ride 5 miles minimum every day.
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Are you sure about this? I mean, obviously, over-exerting yourself in any physical activity can have consequences on your joints, just think about sports like Basketball and Football. But seriously, running is a very natural movement that the human race has been doing for thousands of years. Granted, maybe not Marathons, but running nonetheless. I have a hard time believing that running in a responsible way and clearly knowing your limits would "really mess up" your body as opposed to making it stronger.

Then again, this is just in my not-medical-in-the-least opinion.
 
travisurfer said:
1) If you get tired, move your arms faster and pick up the pace. Sounds dumb I know, but it works.
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It only doesn't sound dumb, it also is dumb to do so.

Always keep your arms relaxed unless you're doing fast-paced sprints because you want to keep the number of muscles in use as small as possible. If you get tired, moving your arms more will get you even more tired.
 
well, actually, I've noticed a dramatic increase in my shape over the past two weeks, which are the weeks that I've been the most sore through. My updated mile is like 5:20 and I tried my hand at the 5K, getting 16:15. fair for a first try. I don't really care about the form; I've reverted to doing what's comfortable. my question to all you vets is, how should I practice. ironically, I've been doing something like 4 miles a day of 400's and 200's and stuff. the sprinter practice. should I continue like this or change the workout? how should I change it?
 
16:15 for 5k is awesome as I was never able to perform that fast even during my more competitive years. What I would give to reverse the aging process...
 
bleh. I feel like I could have done better on the mile, but I was rather tired. but no seriouly guys, I want to know why I improved like that over the week. did I just put in that much work? I put in the same amount of work as any other week. but my times were better. I was tired from the 5k when I ran the mile, and yet I still made a time better than ever before. I've just kept our team's 'traditional' sprinter practice type approach. is this good? could it be better?
 
If it works then that's good.

It always seems to be that way when we perform at our peak and feel there was that extra I could've done as some of my best performances were just like that mainly because of running efficiency. I'll need to workout again with a group like I've done in the past if/when I have a certain goal needing to accomplish.
 
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