NOC Twin Trap Mafia Town win

[Texas Cloverleaf]

I think bluedoom very well could be scum, it looks to me like he's trying to get a wagon built on Jordan without committing to it, note how his rvs vote attempts to justify itself without creating any tangible connections, as compared to fenrir's vote which is done as an obvious trill towards a specific player

 

[Sultan]

I don't think any content has been posted so far that gives me strong reads in any direction

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

I don't think any content has been posted so far that gives me strong reads in any direction

What do you think you should be doing to change that?

 

[Sultan]

What do you think you should be doing to change that?

I don't know. Usually, games get started more easily than this and I then react to it, but this one seems to be stuck in purgatory.

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

I don't know. Usually, games get started more easily than this and I then react to it, but this one seems to be stuck in purgatory.

lets vote bluedoom together and see what happens

 

[bluedoom]

I think bluedoom very well could be scum, it looks to me like he's trying to get a wagon built on Jordan without committing to it, note how his rvs vote attempts to justify itself without creating any tangible connections, as compared to fenrir's vote which is done as an obvious trill towards a specific player

i know you're trying to ice break but stating that my vote tried to justify things when there's nothing in my post is a stretch imo. I'd like to think my vote was joke.

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

Five rvs votes

Only one feels the need to search for a real reason to justify itself

 

[bluedoom]

I don't actually think whatever I said was a real reason but ok.

 

[bluedoom]

unvote vote:duskfall98 is a good vote though.

Didn't like the attempted clearing of clarinet because that's easy for mafia to fake and its easy to point holes into that argument so he can backtrack from the read any time. Felt like the response to my question has a lot of hedging on the clarinet read but also there isn't any follow up on his question where he asks me why I voted jordan which is kinda meh.

 

[Metal Sonic]

Votecount 1.1

Fenrir Aesir: Jordan, Duskfall98
Duskfall98: Fenrir Aesir, bluedoom
bluedoom: Texas Cloverleaf
Jordan: Clarinet
Clarinet: tonithetourguide

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Deadline is 11 PM EST 20 March

 

[patos]

unvote
vote bluedoom
I can get behind this for now.

 

[smogon account]

Five rvs votes

Only one feels the need to search for a real reason to justify itself

okay without regard to this game, why do people constantly attribute leaning on RVS to wolfiness? I've seen the same logic all over the place but don't recall it ever actually being indicative.

 

[Duskfall98]

Ok for real marth hasn't been overly towny imo but why is his wagon building so easily? Can people give reasonings please lol

Imma have to throw a town lean on Texas/marth for being like the only people to actually back themselves up and attempting to actually solve the game. I don't think scum tries to progress the game as marth did there, even if it's kind of a bad read it feels like he's trying his best to scum hunt from nothing.

 

[XnadrojX]

I just think that 'clearing' someone on something that is easily fakeable as mafia defeats the meaning of the word but ok.

jordan wagon when, let's go ride or die on him

I'm sorry, I disagree when you say this is "trying to justify itself". I think meming an RVS vote is scum indicative if they're trying too hard, but this sounds perfectly natural.

Ok for real marth hasn't been overly towny imo but why is his wagon building so easily? Can people give reasonings please lol

Imma have to throw a town lean on Texas/marth for being like the only people to actually back themselves up and attempting to actually solve the game. I don't think scum tries to progress the game as marth did there, even if it's kind of a bad read it feels like he's trying his best to scum hunt from nothing.

which gives this kinda of a bad look

Vote DuskFall



Texas is a big name and good player, so I'm refusing to touch his slot with my incredibly subpar reading skills and instead am going to sheep the most logical read on him.

That is an extremely easy post to make as scum and should not be considered alignment indicative

It's like how many posts in, what else would you expect apart from basic reads?

 

[Duskfall98]

I'm sorry, I disagree when you say this is "trying to justify itself". I think meming an RVS vote is scum indicative if they're trying too hard, but this sounds perfectly natural.



which gives this kinda of a bad look

Vote DuskFall



Texas is a big name and good player, so I'm refusing to touch his slot with my incredibly subpar reading skills and instead am going to sheep the most logical read on him.



It's like how many posts in, what else would you expect apart from basic reads?

Wait can I just confirm, you believe my reasoning is unnatural? Why are you comparing my non RVs read to rvs? At this point we have left the rvs stage.

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

okay without regard to this game, why do people constantly attribute leaning on RVS to wolfiness? I've seen the same logic all over the place but don't recall it ever actually being indicative.

Because random votes are not always random

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

I'm not getting any scummy vibes from his push back though, seems fine for now

unvote

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

Ok for real marth hasn't been overly towny imo but why is his wagon building so easily? Can people give reasonings please lol

Imma have to throw a town lean on Texas/marth for being like the only people to actually back themselves up and attempting to actually solve the game. I don't think scum tries to progress the game as marth did there, even if it's kind of a bad read it feels like he's trying his best to scum hunt from nothing.

This however is bullshit, he gets a second vote in 16 hours and his wagon is building too easily?? Trying to buddy up to bluedoom there are you bud?



Dusk is at three votes right now, my vote us effectively on him but no L-1 quick hammer shenanigans please

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

tonithetourguide why can you get behind a bluedoom wagon, justify your vote please

 

[XnadrojX]

Wait can I just confirm, you believe my reasoning is unnatural? Why are you comparing my non RVs read to rvs? At this point we have left the rvs stage.

I'm saying your reasoning on the marth issue doesn't check out

 

[Fenrir Aesir]

Two questions for anyone familiar with the site meta here:

Is there usually difficulty in getting games off the ground? I don’t mean that as a dig but right now I’m in a weird state where I feel like more should be happening but idk what to do to make more happen

What do y’all think of smogon account? My first thought on post 55 specifically was that it was TMIng bluedoom as town. He’s also giving me strong under-the-radar vibes by just popping in every so often to give a simple comment without much commitment to things.

Duskfall trying to clear Clarinet is a good look for him, especially so early. Not necessarily a good move but potentially locking oneself into such a read so early isn’t really a scum move.

Disagree that bluedoom was “searching for a real reason” to justify his rvs vote; he explicitly called it random when calling for a Jordan wagon. Is there something else regarding this I’m missing Texas Cloverleaf?

bluedoom what type of response(s) were you expecting from Dusk re: Your Jordan vote and Clarinet? I think both the hedging on the Clarinet read and not following up after you said your vote was random would be natural things to do.

Unvote: Duskfall98
Vote: Smogon account

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

Two questions for anyone familiar with the site meta here:

Is there usually difficulty in getting games off the ground? I don’t mean that as a dig but right now I’m in a weird state where I feel like more should be happening but idk what to do to make more happen

What do y’all think of smogon account? My first thought on post 55 specifically was that it was TMIng bluedoom as town. He’s also giving me strong under-the-radar vibes by just popping in every so often to give a simple comment without much commitment to things.

Duskfall trying to clear Clarinet is a good look for him, especially so early. Not necessarily a good move but potentially locking oneself into such a read so early isn’t really a scum move.

Disagree that bluedoom was “searching for a real reason” to justify his rvs vote; he explicitly called it random when calling for a Jordan wagon. Is there something else regarding this I’m missing Texas Cloverleaf?

bluedoom what type of response(s) were you expecting from Dusk re: Your Jordan vote and Clarinet? I think both the hedging on the Clarinet read and not following up after you said your vote was random would be natural things to do.

Unvote: Duskfall98
Vote: Smogon account

Depends on the playerbase. Best way to make things happen is to place votes, engage with people and start conversations.

What I think about smogon account is that the last time I played with him I read him as wrong as I possibly could and his d1 reads we're good so I'm avoiding that slot for now

There was a line of logic that could have led to bluedoom scum, I think his responses have been towny though so I'm no longer pursuing that

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

Vote Sultan of Skook

Scum, lynch, etc

 

[Sultan]

Vote Sultan of Skook

Scum, lynch, etc

Why do you believe that to be the case?

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

Why do you believe that to be the case?

Why shouldn't I believe that to be the case?