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NOC WikiMafia 2 Game Thread [Day 6]

shypebble reads from a quick iso i did, gm. reverse chronological

I'm not gunna vote against my reads to make an option more viable for you.

I don't like any of the other options though OTL

IDK man, you're sussy, I worry about you

I would very much like to vote Bliz out tbh, I could come around on phoopes though but only cause of his role ability name from N1 not making sense with the power, but idk how AI that actually is, and also I don't want to vote him ;;v;;

Pulsar and I are on a common wavelength

I thought a fairy was still fighting with Tommy about the DBD role, I scumread DBD

Who are we scum reading? DBD or Phoopes?

But I also kind of feel like it's Bliz...

Man, it might just be phoopes, am I having an existential crisis about someone I've had in my core town since the beginning

I think it's mainly from the Neighborhood shenanigans. Phoopes had no reason to claim part of their role D1 to figure out all of the Psy things and they were truthful about using their ability twice without HH having to come in and claim his role beforehand. In addition to a role that ensures you action goes through without being redirected seems goated to be on the maf side and I don't see them using that on you the first day unless you're teamed together, and I unequivocally read you as town.

Saber, AirC, Psy, Phoopes are my confident town reads.


Ik this isn't really a wagon rn, but I very much want to
VOTE Bliz
Their claim doesn't make sense to me, especially the N1 visit where they didn't vist anyone, and then didn't contribute that to the discussion surrounding Psy/Tommy/Neighborhood shenanigans on D2, since it was made very clear that Psy said they redirected actions to Bliz.
I'm not sold on either of the wagons at the moment, especially phoopes, but I don't want to vote des either because I'm conflicted.Also we had plenty of docs (2 iirc?), they just all died...

FULL READSLIST HERE THIS IS WHERE IM STOPPING
 
Okay I am off on a snooze cruise

I will likely be on before EOD bc I have work, but in case work is super busy and I don't have a chance to read thread I will drop my vote again

##Vote: Des121

Guessing there will not be a quickhammer at this point. Also town has been quiet anyway :V but I would like to hear POE from everyone who hasn't yet at least, and ideally more from Joey and Pulsar who I'm most unsure about rn
 
The des vote still sits totally wrong with me, I fully acknowledge the things she has done that make her look bad but in every world where she is town, she is the "easy vote" that mafia can push to stay undetected and push their numbers over the edge
 
Honestly I was totally thinking throughout the day that Tommy was trying to pocket me. But I went back and read some of his older stuff, especially his mentions of bluedoom, and with that context he's pretty much clear in my view
 
a fairy said:
i cannot understand how you've arrived to that conclusion he's one of my strongest scumreads what
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Tommy said:
Yeah gg

I do think he’s reasonably mafia
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Tommy said:
The psy vote from bluedoom is so bad lmao
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Tommy said:
##Vote: bluedoom

Probably between this, and saber for me today

The game is presumably lost since we didn’t get subs though
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Tommy said:
Anyways I do agree bluedoom has kind of got to go if we are moving beyond me

##Vote: bluedoom
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Tommy said:
But regardless liquid might be a policy option today too, I prefer bluedoom because he’s actually a player who’s meta is to be less active as mafia rather than always being inactive

But liquid should’ve been subbed last night and it’s disappointing he wasn’t
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Tommy said:
Honestly I think it’s too little too late for bluedoom to salvage himself in my eyes now, the only way is if he survives and votes mafia

You pulled the same thing last game and I gave you grace after being right that you just disengage as mafia, then when you’re about to be voted or under pressure you come on and do a flurry and put on a show as you’re capable of doing when you’re invested, but you’re even bringing up stuff about pebble which I found scummy last game, when you were scum

Your posts are fine now but I have to kind of trust that you’re able to make good posts as mafia, but the way to read you is how last minute you care, and it’s only when you seem to come under pressure imo which is mafia you
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Tommy said:
Can we vote him please?
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Tommy said:
Sure, I think bluedoom deserves to be voted
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i think scum tommy plays this whole game the way they have, the bluedoom stuff is like, the towniest they've looked, but i really dont see that as being a major enough set of posts to fully shift my opinion
 
I find it hard to believe that Tommy bussed bluedoom that hard. I mean I wasn't there so maybe I don't have all the context but do you not consider Tommy do be one of the leaders of that vote?
 
i dont remember the vote strongly enough to declare who was the leader but like, im not going to shift my read off of tommy's "i would never bus a teammate" given that i only developed my scumread of tommy since that vote. im not letting mafia win bc tommy got his willy wonka golden bus ticket
 
- i do not believe the neighborhood is fully clear (why the fuck hasn't mafia fired into it once? is part of it), and tommy is the scummiest of the three in the nighborhood
- he's at least once tried to trial balloon some nonsense (the big one i remember was some "oh these exact people are scum" post that i cant find right now) and then backed off and never mentioned those again when people didnt pick up his ideas
- the phoopes vote and specifically des and tommy moving onto phoopes who flipped town when the other target was des, only reinforced my pre-existing scumreads of both
- idk ive played with both scum and town tommy and im getting strong scum tommy reads here
 
a fairy said:
- i do not believe the neighborhood is fully clear (why the fuck hasn't mafia fired into it once? is part of it), and tommy is the scummiest of the three in the nighborhood
- he's at least once tried to trial balloon some nonsense (the big one i remember was some "oh these exact people are scum" post that i cant find right now) and then backed off and never mentioned those again when people didnt pick up his ideas
- the phoopes vote and specifically des and tommy moving onto phoopes who flipped town when the other target was des, only reinforced my pre-existing scumreads of both
- idk ive played with both scum and town tommy and im getting strong scum tommy reads here
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I read this and appreciate this I'm just not sure what my conclusion is yet

I do think it is a good point that it's weird no one in the neighborhood has died yet, like the neighborhood hasn't done anything particularly interesting but it is true that I would think a mafia team wouldn't like a groupchat of 3 townies existing without their oversight

And I do see some of the scum Tommy vibes and I had some of the same feelings
 
i feel like any argument for me as mafia is more so

"well this towny thing he did he could do even if he was mafia"

rather than "tommy is mafia because he did something scummy"

like the worst accusation about me so far is struggling to read des, and people say i defended her but i havent i just genuinely cant read her and that is like a crazy leap to put me as mafia

if we vote her and she flips, well fine and good

but i do think bliz is mafia regardless of what happens today sorry
 
I'm currently thinking the scumteam is AirC, Blizihguh, a fairy +1

But the +1 I'm really confused about finding someone who makes sense, pulsar is the easiest for me to slot in but that's not particularly evidence-based, DBD could potentially be it also, and there's a chance of it being Tommy or Flandrs but I don't totally see those worlds at the moment
 
Tommy said:
i feel like any argument for me as mafia is more so

"well this towny thing he did he could do even if he was mafia"

rather than "tommy is mafia because he did something scummy"

like the worst accusation about me so far is struggling to read des, and people say i defended her but i havent i just genuinely cant read her and that is like a crazy leap to put me as mafia

if we vote her and she flips, well fine and good

but i do think bliz is mafia regardless of what happens today sorry
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wtf like thats just. not the argument afa is making here like
you fishing around with ideas and then dropping them like a hot potato when nobody picks them up is the most scumy thing in the world
 
joey said:
I'm currently thinking the scumteam is AirC, Blizihguh, a fairy +1

But the +1 I'm really confused about finding someone who makes sense, pulsar is the easiest for me to slot in but that's not particularly evidence-based, DBD could potentially be it also, and there's a chance of it being Tommy or Flandrs but I don't totally see those worlds at the moment
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not flandrs if you trust my clear on him from my role
 
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